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  • Robert Jerin
    Here is a link to some examples of embroidery from women s caps from the  *17th* century from Croatia  
    Message 1 of 1 , Sep 13, 2010
      Here is a link to some examples of embroidery from women's caps from the  *17th* century from Croatia
       
      http://thetextileblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/croatian-embroidery.html
       
      Robert








      --- On Tue, 8/31/10, rickjs <orlirva@...> wrote:


      From: rickjs <orlirva@...>
      Subject: [CroatianHistory] Womans costume Re: Activity question
      To: CroatianHistory@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 11:26 AM


       



      Many good links here!
      "Costume" does not bother me as a word for research, and in a way "folk dress" is more scary to me when we talk about 16th-17th C, because people tend to assume that modern folk dress derives from ancient sources, which is usually not the case, because (speaking in broad generalities) the fancy festival dress is usually a riff on city, upper class, or foreign dress, and often in a joking or even mocking spirit. Representations of common women's dress from before 1800 are hard to find, and some of the more recent folk dress in museams look little like the few pictures of older dress.

      Tanglwyst, Have you looked at the (better documented) balkan subjects of the Ottoman empire? They were subjects of Both german and turkish costume book studies made during the time.
      -Rick
      --- In CroatianHistory@yahoogroups.com, Robert Jerin <rjerin26@...> wrote:
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      > Obviously you if you are seeing clothing with French or Italian influences then you looking at upper classes in large cities.  In fact the peasants would have had distinctive clothing, often times changing from on village to the next.  These folk dress items would have been worn for festive and religious occassions with plainer clothing used on a daily basis  Here is a link for folk dress (shudder... the term costume is something for a clown or an actor!)
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      > http://www.filmcostume.com/Links%20World.htm
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      > But since this group is about CROATIAN HISTORY I know a bit more about Nosnja Narodna (folk dress) and am aware of many good resources (not least of which is my wife)  The Ethnographic Museum in Zagreb has a wonderful collection
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      > http://www.etnografskimuzej.rs/e0401026.htm
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      > Another link to a page which evidently has items for sale, but none the less very good
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      > http://www.miriammilgram.com/StefniCollection/sa_hrvat.htm
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      > In regards to shoes, in the cities one would see the occupation term of postolar, which is Eng shoemaker.... but I have seen parish records for Opancar.... someone who made the traditional peasant shoes  Again each place had their own style  Below is a link to opanci from eastern Europe including Bosnia (once known as Turkish Croatia)
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      > http://www.eliznik.org.uk/EastEurope/Costume/opinci.htm
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      > And here is a link to our Croatian Heritage Museum, here in Cleveland Ohio, and our current exhibit featuring women's clothing (mostly wedding).  A great deal of research went into this exhibit
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      > http://www.croatianmuseum.com/
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      > Robert Jerin
      > To learn about our Oct 2010 Heritage Trip to Croatia click on link
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      > http://www.kollander.com/docs/Bob-Jerin-Croatia-2010.pdf
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      > --- On Mon, 8/30/10, Catriona Morganosa <amre2me2@...> wrote:
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      > From: Catriona Morganosa <amre2me2@...>
      > Subject: RE: [CroatianHistory] Activity question
      > To: CroatianHistory@yahoogroups.com
      > Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 12:14 PM
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