RE: [CreationTalk] Dark Energy Camera
> A new Dark Energy Camera took its first image of the FornaxAs usual you did not provide any references. This is one of several areas
> cluster on September 12. The wide field camera uses 62 separate
> CCD elements that are sensitive to infrared. The 5-ton cryogenic
> camera has the largest filter changer ever built. Its wide field
> images are 570 mega pixels in size. It is mounted on the four
> meter Blanco telescope located at Cerro Tololo in the high
> Atacama desert. Astronomers plan is to photograph 300
> million galaxies over five years with DECam.
that you have a real problem with. However I will go a head and provide a
couple for you.
> Astronomers claim the universe is mostly made of dark energy.That's a good description however dark matter is not necessarily invisible
> Since this stuff is defined as invisible, no camera could actually
> detect it. Scientists hope that DECam will map the galaxies and
> so figure out how invisible matter and energies are affecting the
> visible universe.
matter but it may just not visible to us because it does not shine like
stars do. Planes orbiting a star are generally not visible to us because
their reflected light is drowned out by the glare of the star. If you look
at the sun from say Alpha Centauri it would be impossible at least with
current technology to image the Earth or even Jupiter by both planets as
well as six others, and a bunch of other objects are here.
> According to space-time theories, Earth has an elliptical orbit becauseincreasing
> it rides the bent rails in the vacuum of space-time. Allegedly, as the
> vacuum of space-time stretches itself, it also stretches passing light,
> which is why distant galaxies shine redder than the light from modern
> atoms. Dark energy is the invisible force that allows galaxies that are
> standing still relative to their local space to move away at ever
> speeds as the intergalactic vacuum of space-time stretches out.While this is basically a good description there are a few of problems with
1. Space-time is not technically a vacuum not only is it filled with energy
in the form of virtual particles called in quantum mechanics zero point
energy but space-time is a bendable-stretchable-malleable structure that is
rigid enough that it take a lot of matter to affect it.
2. The Earth does not ride bent rails in space-time but follows the
curvature of space cause by the sun.
3. Space-time does not stretch itself but is being stretched, there is a
difference. While evolutionary cosmologists resort to ad hoc stuff like
"dark energy" from a Biblical perspective it is God that is doing the
> Cosmologists estimate that 23 % of the universe is made of dark matterThis figures are only valid for evolutionary cosmologists; not Creationists;
> and 73 % is dark energy. Of the remaining 4 % of the scientific universe,
> only 0.4% is supposed to be visible stars. This is why scientists build
> precision instruments like DECam, to buttress their theories of a universe
> that is more than 99% undetectable.
since "dark energy" was specifically designed to save the Big Bang from
reality. Even then the claim that more than 99% of the universe is seen as
undetectable is not accurate. While only 0.4% would be stars, most of that
other 4% would be dust and gas much of which is illuminated by stars and is
actually visible in most galaxy images. Further more just because something
can not be seen dose not make it undetectable. The 23% "dark matter" would
be detectable by its gravity so at least 25% would be detectable.
For Creationists "dark energy" is not needed so even if we accept "dark
matter", which may not be need that produces 85% "dark matter" and 15%
ordinary matter. That would mean that at least 95% of the Universe is
detectable If we accept Cosmological Relativity then "dark matter", is not
need and ordinary matter is all there is then most of it is not only
detectable by visible as well.
> Detecting invisible things is not unlike detecting the emperor's invisiblerobe,
> it requires a belief system that is unsupported by visible facts.That is not true. Air is for all practical purposes invisible but it can be
detected in other ways. The same goes for planets orbiting other stars and
if it exists the same thing goes for "dark matter". It each of these cases
they are supported by visible facts. Only dark energy requires a belief
system that is unsupported by visible facts since it is only postulated so
as to save the Big Bang from reality.
The rest of you post was not worth commenting on since we have been over it
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