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  • lisamillen@rocketmail.com
    there is a similar group in my area. i used to work for a seamstress that made Romany bridesmaids dresses. I found however that dominate was used allot more
    Message 1 of 3 , Nov 17, 2009
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      there is a similar group in my area. i used to work for a seamstress that made Romany bridesmaids dresses. I found however that dominate was used allot more than sequins and all the girls would want their name in diamante on the trains of there dresses.
      --- In CostumeHistoryClass@yahoogroups.com, "nanavin79" <nanavin79@...> wrote:
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      > I moved to Ireland about 8 years ago. The group I looked at a little closer were the `Irish natives' (how they like to call themselves) or Pavees.
      > Now, the Irish are famous for their drinking and their sense of humor, which they seem to loose when it comes to this `tribe'. The government has put great effort into settling this group down and is still trying to end their gypsy-like lifestyle, but there are still groups living in campervans. It is still not entirely clear where they descended from, but that is not what concerns most bars, pubs or hotels. It's the violent and destructive behavior displayed whilst drunk, the numbers they come in and probably the fact that they destroy the place fighting if given the chance. Funny enough they usually fight amongst themselves and it's the interior most owners of bars are worried about.
      > As I started to work in a pub I was told to be wary of stripy shirts or jumpers, which seemed to be in fashion within their circles for men. Women however like to dress provocative, which means to show as much skin as possible in certain areas. This habit extends to even young girls, who usually were their hair long.
      > Big occasions like weddings and christenings are celebrated with as much money spent as possible. It's usually a public display and a round through the community is made before reaching their destination of celebration. A stretch-limo or Cinderella-style horse drown carriage are just accessories. The typical wedding dress has as many beads and sequences as fabric and is always the whitest white. Bridesmaids usually wear a gown just as elaborate but in a different color, such as red or pink are favorites.
      > In every day life women seem to love the comfort of tracksuit pants and trainers but again the taste for bright colors is apparent, whereas men mainly wear jeans.
      >
    • varette
      From your account I sort of get the sense that this group is well-knit together. I think their loud ways and overly flamboyant clothing makes them seem
      Message 2 of 3 , Feb 10, 2010
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        From your account I sort of get the sense that this group is well-knit together. I think their loud ways and overly flamboyant clothing makes them seem dangerous to outsiders, which could be some sort of defense mechanism. I think this is fascinating because when people cannot generally understand what you are trying to say through your clothes, you become unpredictable. Their ab-normal mannerisms keep them a mystery to everyone.

        --- In CostumeHistoryClass@yahoogroups.com, "nanavin79" <nanavin79@...> wrote:
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        > I moved to Ireland about 8 years ago. The group I looked at a little closer were the `Irish natives' (how they like to call themselves) or Pavees.
        > Now, the Irish are famous for their drinking and their sense of humor, which they seem to loose when it comes to this `tribe'. The government has put great effort into settling this group down and is still trying to end their gypsy-like lifestyle, but there are still groups living in campervans. It is still not entirely clear where they descended from, but that is not what concerns most bars, pubs or hotels. It's the violent and destructive behavior displayed whilst drunk, the numbers they come in and probably the fact that they destroy the place fighting if given the chance. Funny enough they usually fight amongst themselves and it's the interior most owners of bars are worried about.
        > As I started to work in a pub I was told to be wary of stripy shirts or jumpers, which seemed to be in fashion within their circles for men. Women however like to dress provocative, which means to show as much skin as possible in certain areas. This habit extends to even young girls, who usually were their hair long.
        > Big occasions like weddings and christenings are celebrated with as much money spent as possible. It's usually a public display and a round through the community is made before reaching their destination of celebration. A stretch-limo or Cinderella-style horse drown carriage are just accessories. The typical wedding dress has as many beads and sequences as fabric and is always the whitest white. Bridesmaids usually wear a gown just as elaborate but in a different color, such as red or pink are favorites.
        > In every day life women seem to love the comfort of tracksuit pants and trainers but again the taste for bright colors is apparent, whereas men mainly wear jeans.
        >
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