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  • MGC
    ... Moderators note; There is a big distiction these days between Performance and Capability. In many respects, in terms of pure areodynamic performance,
    Message 1 of 1 , Mar 2, 2006
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      --- In LWJF@yahoogroups.com, "MGC" <max_g_cunningham@...> wrote:

      Moderators note;

      There is a big distiction these days between
      "Performance" and "Capability."

      In many respects, in terms of pure areodynamic performance,
      (accelleration, manuverability, top speed, range, high and low
      altitude capability and handling, etc,, ) the latest generation of
      US made Jet Fighters offer a diminishing return on investment, in
      relation to thier exorobident costs, (the F-22 is a good example).
      Specificaly in relation and measurement of pure areodynamic
      performance, in comparison with previous aircarft, in fact
      particularly in relation to cost, many can be considered a
      significant step backwards.

      In terms of "capability" however, the Mil. Ind. Complex assures us
      that there has been progress, in the justification of enourmous cost
      increases. It's important to realise in saying so, that "they"
      have a very highly vested interest.

      This is the essience of the claims and some of the hype, about
      stealth, BVR capability supercruise, and SVTOL, etc, etc,
      etc,,,.

      The question is, how much do we believe them ?

      The following peice reveals a lot, and the truth can be painfull,
      it's talks about the US Navy, but IMO in many respects it's also
      indicative of the USAF phycie, and the entire MIL. Ind. Complex.

      MaX C


      http://www.transasianaxis.com/vb/showthread.php?t=304
      ___________________________
      Dedication

      Let me begin by stating that the US Navy is an important fighting
      organization, but it is not a person. It is not the flag, and it is
      nobody's mother or child.

      It is an employer of hundreds of thousands of people, but
      importantly, one that has extracted billions of dollars from the
      taxpayers. It is not a religion, it is not sacred, and as such, it
      can and must be subjected to rigorous criticism when warranted.

      It is in the spirit of sincere and constructive criticism that I
      write this paper. I say this because, despite good intentions, and
      extensive documented evidence, often provided by current or former US
      Navy officers who want to turn this organization around, there are
      some who are apparently incapable of engaging in constructive but
      critical discussion on their current or former service.

      <SNIP>

      The legendary Late Colonel John Boyd, USAF (Retired) was no fan of
      swing-wing airplanes like the USAF F-111 or the Navy's F-14, and
      there was much criticism of the F-14 in his 2002 biography.

      "Hollywood and the movie Top Gun notwithstanding, the F-14 Tomcat is
      a lumbering, poor-performing, aerial truck.

      It weighs about fifty-four thousand pounds. Add on external fuel
      tanks and missiles and the weight is about seventy thousand pounds.

      It is what fighter pilots call a "grape": squeeze it in a couple of
      hard turns and all the energy oozes out. That energy cannot be
      quickly regained, and the aircraft becomes an easy target.

      Navy admirals strongly discourage simulated battles between the F-14
      and the latest Air Force fighters. But those engagements occasionally
      take place. And when they do, given pilots of equal ability, the F-14
      always loses." This observation tends to confirm what even CNO
      Admiral Ernest King, USN, quietly admitted in World War II, that land-
      based aircraft are, in fact, naturally "superior" to carrier-based
      planes.

      The F-14 is now fading into the pages of history, and it is being
      replaced by the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet.

      While certainly much newer than the F-14, the Super (expensive)
      Hornet is considered to be no improvement over the existing F/A-
      18C/D, or the F-14 itself, in fact in many parameters, it is actually
      less capable than its predecessors.

      Critics have roasted the new aircraft for its compromised "do-it-all-
      with-one-platform" philosophy, and in 1999, the US Marine Corps even
      stated that it would flat out refuse to buy the aircraft. Even
      compared to the stylish but overpraised F-14, the Super Hornet falls
      short in key areas. Consider payload and range,

      for example. Said Bob Kress and Rear Admiral Paul Gillcrist, US Navy
      (Retired) in 2002, "Though it's a whizzy little airshow performer
      with a nice, modern cockpit, it has only 36 percent of the F-14's
      payload/range capability.

      The F/A-18E Super Hornet has been improved but still has, at best, 50
      percent of the F-14's capability to deliver a fixed number of bombs
      (in pounds) on target. This naturally means that the carrier radius
      of influence drops to 50 percent of what it would have been with the
      same number of F-14s. As a result, the area of influence (not radius)
      drops to 23 percent!"

      "The Super Hornet program is still not the performance champion among
      combat aircraft," echoed another critic, Bill Sweetman, in 2004. "The
      F-15 and Rafale will carry more weapons and fly farther, and the
      Rafale, F-16, and Typhoon will out-accelerate and outmaneuver the F/A-
      18E/F at high speeds." Stan Crock pontificated that a great many
      naval aviators appear to be quite unimpressed with the new airplane,
      and consider it a step backward, not forward: "`If the Joint Strike
      Fighter dies,'" frets one airman, "`we're stuck with the Super
      Hornet.'"

      --- End forwarded message ---
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