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  • Prophet Leader
    Sep 27, 2009
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      Steve,

      You asked about requirements to join The Church of the Firstborn
      Westwood. Since the Church is a continuation of the Church of
      the Firstborn founded at Kirtland in 1836, anyone with a valid
      2nd anointing [or a valid J.C. Bennet style patriarchal anointing]
      is already an unofficial member.


      The standards of worthiness for membership and/or receipt of additional ordinances
      are acknowledgment of the presiding Keyholder, obedience to the
      various laws covenanted in the 1st Endowment. The person must
      be magnifying his calling and seeking deeper and deeper into
      the mysteries of God.

      If the person has received the Kingly grades of Priesthood he has further obligations
      including the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood.

      Assuming he has a valid baptism, if a person wishes to join the Church as an official member
      he need only send an email with a biography requesting his name
      be entered as an official member. If feasible we will make
      personal contact and interview the prospective member.

      This church does not have a creed one has to adhere to. As
      the prophet Joseph said:


      I [do] not like the old man being called up for erring in doctrine. It looks too much like the Methodists, and not like the Latter-day Saints. Methodists have creeds which a man must believe or be kicked out of their church. I want the liberty of thinking and believing as I please. It feels so good not to be trammelled. It does not prove that a man is not a good man because he errs in doctrine.17 "History of Joseph Smith" Latter-day saints Millennial Star XX (1858)

      774; DHC 5:340.

      Notwithstanding this all male members over 30 are asked to express
      their willingness to enter into plural marriage on their own
      responsibility should the Lord reveal this path for them. The
      Church itself does not sponsor plural marriage leaving that
      mission to the Priesthood underground.

      Willingness or obedience to Plural marriage (the law of abraham) is required to get back to our progenitor in the Priesthood Abraham, obedience to the law of consecration is required to get back to Enoch. It is required to be sealed to these and other dispensation
      heads by the ordinance of adoption through one of Joseph's lines
      as Alvin R. Dyer explains sealing is involvement in laws as well
      as blood line sealing.

      "You will notice that when Moroni appeared to the Prophet Joseph Smith, he
      said that the priesthood of Elijah would be revealed which would turn the
      hearts of the fathers to the children and the children to the fathers. Now
      if you want to take the time to analyze that prophecy in Malachi, it is
      precisely the very thing we are talking about. We will become associated
      with the teachings of all the fathers from the beginning. Now how does that
      apply? Well, for example, take the law of consecration. That is what
      father (Enoch) would teach us. In other words we would become bound to the
      Patriarch Enoch through the involvement of the law of consecration. Take
      for further example the keys given to Abraham, which have to do with
      receiving the gospel and having the leaven of the the house of Israel spread
      unto other people, and particularly unto the gentiles. ...The keys of
      salvation which Adam holds, for example, require us to understand and be
      obedient [the law of obedience and sacrifice] in order to be sealed to Adam.
      Sealing means involvement, or living by or making a covenant concerning the
      laws or the principles which he taught or was called upon to give unto his
      children. So when you say that the children will be turned to the fathers
      and the fathers to the children, you see, it is more than just a direct
      blood-line descent. It means all of the fathers in the Priesthood and
      involvement with the various keys and powers of the Patriarchal order as I
      understand it."

      [Of course one of the neglected laws of the Patriarchal order is the
      dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham or plural marriage as I (RL)
      understand it!]

      In Brigham Young's 2nd Anointing blessing:

      "I seal upon you all the blessings of thy Progenitors Even Abraham, Isaac, &
      Jacob & even as Far back as the Priesthood [goes]."


      Oct 1840 J.S. the prophet(wjs p. 39):

      [Adam]the great and grand progenitor of whom it is said in another place he
      is Michael because he was the first and father of all, _not only by
      progeny_, but he was the first to hold the spiritual blessings."

      "Adam holds the keys of the dispensation of the fulness of times...Paul
      speaks of the Church coming to an innumerable company of Angels, to God the
      Judge of all, the spirits of Just men made perfect, to Jesus the mediator of
      the New Covenant, &c. Heb XII"

      It is necessary that we be taught by these characters. Sealing then as I
      understand it means communication an opening of the heavens either by open
      vision or spiritual communication in which these characters speak to our
      spirit independent of its connection with the mortal body. Brigham Young
      says [in the JD] that when our bodies are asleep our minds are as active as
      when we are awake. Our spirits can leave our bodies to visit distant
      friends [or to be taught by Angels and former heads of dispensations].

      Hope this helps (see the earlier message for the answers to your
      other questions).

      Dr. Randall Larsen







      --- In Church_of_the_Firstborn_Westwood@yahoogroups.com, "sseipel133" <sseipel133@...> wrote:
      >
      > Questions for Randall:
      >
      > Does your church have sacrament meetings? If so, how often?
      >
      > Do you teach that these 40 dramatic presentations are necessary for our progression, or just nice extras?
      >
      > How did you learn them?
      >
      > Are the seven kingly grades of priesthood you refer to conferred all at once or on different occasions?
      >
      > Other people who claim to be the birthright heir of Joseph Smith claim it on the basis of ordination by the previous birthright heir. You claim to have discovered your right to the position by searching your genealogy. How is your situation different from others who simply "take this honor upon himself" like Terrill Dalton or Jim Harmston?
      >
      > Can you tell us who ordained you to your priesthood position?
      >
      > Why is tithing only 2%?
      >
      > If a person's garments should have a six-pointed star after he receives his second anointing, does that mean that regular garments should have a five-pointed star?
      >
      > Do you teach that we should pray only to our heavenly father, or to both him and our heavenly mother?
      >
      > What is your opinion about Tom Green's Lebaronite priesthood lineage, or the Lebaron family's church of the firstborn claims in general?
      >
      > Where are you planning to build temples, other than California and Utah? How about Missouri?
      >
      > Have you figured out the design(architecture) of the temples yet?
      >
      > When doing work for the dead, will initiatories and endowments be done separately, like in the LDS temples?
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      > After we do baptisms and endowments for our ancestors, can we then have them sealed to us as our children?
      >
      > When one wants to join your church, how does he do it? Rebaptism? What requirements and process do you have? Will there be a waiting period before receiving the endowment and sealings?
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