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Moses Supports Child Molestation

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  • Dave Wave
    15 And Moses said to them, Have you spared all the women? 16 Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 23, 2006
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      "15 And Moses said to them, "Have you spared all the
      women?
      16 "Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through
      the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the LORD in
      the matter of Peor, so the plague was among the
      congregation of the LORD.
      17 "Now therefore, kill every male among the little
      ones, and kill every woman who has known man
      intimately.
      18 "But all the girls who have not known man
      intimately, spare for yourselves." (Numbers 31, NASB)

      Moses wants them to kill everybody except the little
      girls (the largest group of those "women" who were
      still virgins).

      Why spare only the little girls?

      Christian apologists would insist that Moses didn't
      think these men would sexually abuse the virgin girls.

      If that is the case, then why kill off the non-virgin
      women? Why kill off the little boys?

      What were the Israelites gonna use them for? Slaves?

      If so, cannot little boys and non-virgin women do the
      dishes and clean house and do other odd jobs in the
      Israelite camp just as efficiantly as virgin girls?

      If so, then why kill off the little boys and the
      non-virgin women?

      The text already told you why, but the blinders of
      Christian apologetics prevent you you from cutting
      through the worldliness and beholding the actual truth
      :)

      It was in that last verse.

      "18 But all the girls who have not known man
      intimately, spare for yourselves." (Numbers 31:18,
      NASB)

      If Moses didn't think his Israelite military men had
      sex on their mind, then why does Moses tell his men to
      take into account a certain VERY SEXUAL TRUTH in order
      to divide those who must die from those who will not?

      Everybody agrees that virgin girls have something that
      all ancient savage military men would just love to get
      their hands on. And Moses says the only thing that
      will save a captive here is if they are a virgin girl.

      The concern about a highly sexual truth is undeniable.

      Add that to "keep them alive FOR YOURSELVES", and
      you've got a good case that Moses was giving those
      poor traumatized virgin prisoners-of-war, not much
      differently than a college senior hands out love dolls
      to the freshmen at the frat house.

      Yeah, they can use the love-doll to stuff into the
      pillow to make it fluffier for a good night's rest,
      but chances that they will put such a doll to that
      sort of use are nil, amen?

      So when Moses specifies that it is only their being
      female and their being virgins that will get them
      spared from the death sentence, no, it isn't so his
      army men can take them home and make them wash the
      dishes.

      if you saw such a speech in a non-biblical text coming
      from pagan leader to pagan military, how much
      difficulty would you have in seeing the specifically
      stated sexual overtone?

      God will give you what you need to say, in the same
      hour as you need it.

      WHAT'S HE SAYING NOW!?

      --- Dave

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    • rosariodsouza
      15 And Moses said to them, Have you spared all the women? 16 Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the
      Message 2 of 3 , Sep 4, 2006
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        "15 And Moses said to them, "Have you spared all the women?
        16 "Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of
        Balaam, to trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, so the
        plague was among the congregation of the LORD.
        17 "Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill
        every woman who has known man intimately.
        18 "But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for
        yourselves." (Numbers 31, NASB)

        Dave:

        Moses wants them to kill everybody except the little girls (the
        largest group of those "women" who were still virgins).

        Ross:

        Dave, which part of the verse says that Moses doesn't expect the men
        to wait until the girls are grown?

        Also, if sexual molestation was on Moses' mind then why only select
        virgins? Why not other women?

        And doesn't your view contradict Mt 18:6?

        Mt 18:6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in
        Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone
        hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.

        In God's eyes, people who molest children, and thereby causing them
        to stumble, are fit to die. So why would the same God ask the Jews
        to molest children?

        Keep in mind that this was not Moses' idea but the Holy Spirit's
        idea. If you want to accuse the Holy Spirit of evil, do so at your
        own risk. Just remember that Jesus said that blasphemy against the
        Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.

        ..Ross.
      • Robert Jefferson
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        Message 3 of 3 , Sep 5, 2006
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          what has this to do with philosophy?

          --- rosariodsouza <rjds@...> wrote:

          > "15 And Moses said to them, "Have you spared all the
          > women?
          > 16 "Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through
          > the counsel of
          > Balaam, to trespass against the LORD in the matter
          > of Peor, so the
          > plague was among the congregation of the LORD.
          > 17 "Now therefore, kill every male among the little
          > ones, and kill
          > every woman who has known man intimately.
          > 18 "But all the girls who have not known man
          > intimately, spare for
          > yourselves." (Numbers 31, NASB)
          >
          > Dave:
          >
          > Moses wants them to kill everybody except the little
          > girls (the
          > largest group of those "women" who were still
          > virgins).
          >
          > Ross:
          >
          > Dave, which part of the verse says that Moses
          > doesn't expect the men
          > to wait until the girls are grown?
          >
          > Also, if sexual molestation was on Moses' mind then
          > why only select
          > virgins? Why not other women?
          >
          > And doesn't your view contradict Mt 18:6?
          >
          > Mt 18:6 but whoever causes one of these little ones
          > who believe in
          > Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a
          > heavy millstone
          > hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth
          > of the sea.
          >
          > In God's eyes, people who molest children, and
          > thereby causing them
          > to stumble, are fit to die. So why would the same
          > God ask the Jews
          > to molest children?
          >
          > Keep in mind that this was not Moses' idea but the
          > Holy Spirit's
          > idea. If you want to accuse the Holy Spirit of evil,
          > do so at your
          > own risk. Just remember that Jesus said that
          > blasphemy against the
          > Holy Spirit is an unforgivable sin.
          >
          > ..Ross.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >


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