Re: [Christian-Philosophy] Re: I don't understand the Garden of Eden
- I've never heard a belief system even close to that that!
From: Brother Dave <truthist@...>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Christian-Philosophy] Re: I don't understand the Garden of Eden
Thank you, Jacob, for asking these questions.
Dr. Isa has provided a good description of the 1st Garden of Eden which was prepared for the arrival of our -- biologically uplifting to all mankind -- material Sons of God named Adam and Eve. They, and over one thousand of their pure-line progeny, went out into the land of Nod and selected some of the millions of Nodite humans and some other races to mate with to greatly improve mankind suddenly to "modern man" as known by our scientists today, from about 37,000 years ago.
--- In Christian-Philosophy@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Smith <jpshurricane@...> wrote:
>To answer more of your good questions: God did not "curse" the human race. The partial default of the super-humans Adam and Eve was directly caused by the willful rebellion of some lesser administrative Sons of God named Lucifer and his assistant Satan and the former, evil planetary prince named Caligastia. They deceived Adam and Eve to no be patient and wait until they had one million pure violet race Adamic progeny before they went to to mate with selected humans.
> In the bible where it said that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden of Eden and God made the curse, what exactly does it mean, was the whole earth perfect before then? was only the garden of eden the only perfect place? Was there animal life in and out of the garden of eden? Does kicking them out of the garden mean the same thing as laying the curse, and the whole earth was the garden of eden (I don't believe this is true, but it is possible)? Was the garden of eden on earth (I believe it was)?
No, the earth long before that was very barbaric, primitive. There always were disease and death from the first implantation of one-cell life here 550 million years ago. Continual progress is God's plan for all creatures beings who start out in the space-time local universes. The first Garden of Eden was not perfect, but it had much better order, better vegetation, better food growing, control of dangerous animals with two huge walls surrounding it, etc. It was partly planned by super-human advice. Yes, the first and the second Gardens of Eden were on earth. There are scientific teams now exploring the sea-floor of the Eastern edge of the Mediterranean Sea --the actual location of the 1st Garden.
There never was any real "Fall of Man"; but there was a terrible, iniquitous insurrection by some low level Sons of God, mentioned above. When Jesus Christ Incarnated here 7 B.C. - A.D. 30, He fully met and subdued all the evil sons and fallen angels - stated in the Bible as devils, demons, etc. See and believe John 12:31-32, 16:11, Jude 1:6, I Peter 4:17, Rev 12:7-8 where Michael won ! and in John Jesus won ! They are the same Deity Person as Jesus Christ is known on high as Jesus Christ Michael. Michael is a high title which means: He is just like (the same as) God ! The mistake in the Bible is calling Michael as mere Archangel. Jesus Christ Michael our local Universe Creator Son of God and his Partner the Creative Holy Spirit have made almost 800,000 archangels so far to serve in our local universe named Nebadon. It will have ten million human-inhabited planets when completed in this first grand universe age of about one trillion years before larger creations are available for further evolution and spiritualization. God is infinite and has capacity for an infinite number of universes and much more; without losing any of His Infinite Powers.
If you want a full account of Adam and Eve and the two Gardens, the defaults, etc. Peruse Papers 53 and 54 on the Lucifer Rebellion. Paper 58 Life establishment on Urantia (short form: Urth, Earth) Paper 63 The First Human Family. Papers 66 and 67 The first, fallen Planetary Prince of Urantia and the Planetary Rebellion. and then Papers 73 through 76 on Adam and Eve and the two Gardens. Then, if you have any more questions, please ask us here.
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