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HOWTO: Puzzle Final Coordinate Validation

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  • Nick Silkey
    A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate coordinate validation on our puzzle caches. The code behind this is really simple. They have
    Message 1 of 10 , Nov 2, 2005
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      A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
      coordinate validation on our puzzle caches. The code behind this is
      really simple. They have asked me to offer up the code so others may
      take advantage. The code is bare-bones and could likely be
      implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far. If you have a
      access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice just fine
      for your validation needs. Enjoy.

      *Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service for
      customers does not have PHP installed. I assume SBC has the same
      limitation.

      The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e. margin of error)

      INDEX.HTML
      ---
      <html>
      <head>
      <title></title>
      </head>
      <body>
      <form action="validate.php" method="post">
      <p>Latitude: <br />
      N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
      value="30"/>°<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
      maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
      maxlength="3"/>'<br />
      Longitude: <br />
      W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
      value="97"/>°<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
      maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
      maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
      <input type="submit" />
      </form>
      </body>
      </html>


      VALIDATE.PHP
      ---
      <html><body>
      <?php
      if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1 ==
      "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
      echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
      echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
      } else {
      echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
      echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
      echo 'Fire off an <a
      href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
      lost.';
      }
      ?>
      </body>
      </html>

      The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying Triangle'
      (GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one would be
      cruel and unusual ... ;)

      VALIDATE.PHP
      ---
      <html><body>
      <?php
      if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3 <=
      "678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" && $long3
      <= "678" ) {
      echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
      echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097 12.456</b>.<br />';
      } else {
      echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
      echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
      echo 'Fire off an <a
      href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
      lost.';
      }
      ?>
      </body>
      </html>

      Happy to answer any questions.

      --
      Nick Silkey
      a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
      N30 28.2' W097 46.6'
    • Alan
      I like coordinate validation scripts also. I like to write scripts that bang at the validation scripts until it coughs up the coordinates. :-D
      Message 2 of 10 , Nov 2, 2005
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        I like coordinate validation scripts also. I like to write scripts that
        "bang" at the validation scripts until it coughs up the coordinates. :-D


        Nick Silkey wrote:

        >A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
        >coordinate validation on our puzzle caches. The code behind this is
        >really simple. They have asked me to offer up the code so others may
        >take advantage. The code is bare-bones and could likely be
        >implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far. If you have a
        >access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice just fine
        >for your validation needs. Enjoy.
        >
        >*Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service for
        >customers does not have PHP installed. I assume SBC has the same
        >limitation.
        >
        >The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e. margin of error)
        >
        >INDEX.HTML
        >---
        ><html>
        ><head>
        ><title></title>
        ></head>
        ><body>
        ><form action="validate.php" method="post">
        ><p>Latitude: <br />
        >N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
        >value="30"/>°<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
        >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
        >maxlength="3"/>'<br />
        >Longitude: <br />
        >W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
        >value="97"/>°<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
        >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
        >maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
        ><input type="submit" />
        ></form>
        ></body>
        ></html>
        >
        >
        >VALIDATE.PHP
        >---
        ><html><body>
        ><?php
        >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1 ==
        >"97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
        >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
        >echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
        >} else {
        >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
        >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
        >echo 'Fire off an <a
        >href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
        >lost.';
        >}
        >?>
        ></body>
        ></html>
        >
        >The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying Triangle'
        >(GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one would be
        >cruel and unusual ... ;)
        >
        >VALIDATE.PHP
        >---
        ><html><body>
        ><?php
        >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3 <=
        >"678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" && $long3
        ><= "678" ) {
        >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
        >echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097 12.456</b>.<br />';
        >} else {
        >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
        >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
        >echo 'Fire off an <a
        >href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
        >lost.';
        >}
        >?>
        ></body>
        ></html>
        >
        >Happy to answer any questions.
        >
        >--
        >Nick Silkey
        >a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
        >N30 28.2' W097 46.6
        >
        >
      • Perrine Julie-ra5686
        Nick, will you post this as a file on our YahooGroup please? This is really great! Julie Mrs. Captain Picard ... From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
        Message 3 of 10 , Nov 3, 2005
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          Nick, will you post this as a file on our YahooGroup please?  This is really great!
          Julie
          Mrs. Captain Picard
          -----Original Message-----
          From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Silkey
          Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:22 PM
          To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] HOWTO: Puzzle Final Coordinate Validation

          A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
          coordinate validation on our puzzle caches.  The code behind this is
          really simple.  They have asked me to offer up the code so others may
          take advantage.  The code is bare-bones and could likely be
          implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far.  If you have a
          access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice just fine
          for your validation needs.  Enjoy.

          *Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service for
          customers does not have PHP installed.  I assume SBC has the same
          limitation.

          The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e. margin of error)

          INDEX.HTML
          ---
          <html>
          <head>
          <title></title>
          </head>
          <body>
          <form action="validate.php" method="post">
          <p>Latitude: <br />
          N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
          value="30"/>&deg;<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
          maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
          maxlength="3"/>'<br />
          Longitude:  <br />
          W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
          value="97"/>&deg;<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
          maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
          maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
          <input type="submit" />
          </form>
          </body>
          </html>


          VALIDATE.PHP
          ---
          <html><body>
          <?php
          if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1 ==
          "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
          echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
          echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
          } else {
          echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
          echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
          echo 'Fire off an <a
          href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
          lost.';
          }
          ?>
          </body>
          </html>

          The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying Triangle'
          (GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one would be
          cruel and unusual ... ;)

          VALIDATE.PHP
          ---
          <html><body>
          <?php
          if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3 <=
          "678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" && $long3
          <= "678" ) {
          echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
          echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097 12.456</b>.<br />';
          } else {
          echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
          echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
          echo 'Fire off an <a
          href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
          lost.';
          }
          ?>
          </body>
          </html>

          Happy to answer any questions.

          --
          Nick Silkey
          a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
          N30 28.2' W097 46.6'
        • Perrine Julie-ra5686
          Alan, would you post that to the YahooGroup, PLEASE!!!!!!!!! Julie Mrs. Captain Picard ... From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
          Message 4 of 10 , Nov 3, 2005
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            Alan, would you post that to the YahooGroup, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
            Julie
            Mrs. Captain Picard
            -----Original Message-----
            From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan
            Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:08 PM
            To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] HOWTO: Puzzle Final Coordinate Validation

            I like coordinate validation scripts also.  I like to write scripts that
            "bang" at the validation scripts until it coughs up the coordinates. :-D


            Nick Silkey wrote:

            >A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
            >coordinate validation on our puzzle caches.  The code behind this is
            >really simple.  They have asked me to offer up the code so others may
            >take advantage.  The code is bare-bones and could likely be
            >implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far.  If you have a
            >access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice just fine
            >for your validation needs.  Enjoy.
            >
            >*Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service for
            >customers does not have PHP installed.  I assume SBC has the same
            >limitation.
            >
            >The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e. margin of error)
            >
            >INDEX.HTML
            >---
            ><html>
            ><head>
            ><title></title>
            ></head>
            ><body>
            ><form action="validate.php" method="post">
            ><p>Latitude: <br />
            >N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
            >value="30"/>&deg;<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
            >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
            >maxlength="3"/>'<br />
            >Longitude:  <br />
            >W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
            >value="97"/>&deg;<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
            >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
            >maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
            ><input type="submit" />
            ></form>
            ></body>
            ></html>
            >
            >
            >VALIDATE.PHP
            >---
            ><html><body>
            ><?php
            >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1 ==
            >"97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
            >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
            >echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
            >} else {
            >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
            >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
            >echo 'Fire off an <a
            >href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
            >lost.';
            >}
            >?>
            ></body>
            ></html>
            >
            >The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying Triangle'
            >(GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one would be
            >cruel and unusual ... ;)
            >
            >VALIDATE.PHP
            >---
            ><html><body>
            ><?php
            >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3 <=
            >"678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" && $long3
            ><= "678" ) {
            >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
            >echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097 12.456</b>.<br />';
            >} else {
            >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
            >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
            >echo 'Fire off an <a
            >href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
            >lost.';
            >}
            >?>
            ></body>
            ></html>
            >
            >Happy to answer any questions.
            >
            >--
            >Nick Silkey
            >a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
            >N30 28.2' W097 46.6

            >
          • Lowracer
            When I do puzzle cache coordinate verification I require the puzzle solver to show their work as it were, before I ll verify the answer. More interesting to
            Message 5 of 10 , Nov 3, 2005
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              When I do puzzle cache coordinate verification I require the puzzle
              solver to 'show their work' as it were, before I'll verify the answer.
              More interesting to me than the coordinates (which I already know) is
              exactly how the person figured it out. Often times you will get
              solutions that are so off the wall yet somehow (through dumb luck or a
              brilliant turn of mind) they work. Also this helps cut down on
              cheating where the cheater just copied someone else's work.

              I'll avoid the scripts and still do email verification of coords.
              Part of the fun of puzzle caches for me is interacting with the puzzle
              crackers to see what makes their minds tick. This is the human
              interest. This is also how you get some great stories, useful at
              events such as Festivus during the "spinning of yarns."

              -mark
              aka Hugh Jazz, lowracer, and others.

              --- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "Perrine Julie-ra5686"
              <julieperrine@f...> wrote:
              >
              > Alan, would you post that to the YahooGroup, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
              > Julie
              > Mrs. Captain Picard
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
              > [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan
              > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:08 PM
              > To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] HOWTO: Puzzle Final
              > Coordinate Validation
              >
              >
              > I like coordinate validation scripts also. I like to write
              > scripts that
              > "bang" at the validation scripts until it coughs up the
              > coordinates. :-D
              >
              >
              > Nick Silkey wrote:
              >
              > >A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
              > >coordinate validation on our puzzle caches. The code behind
              > this is
              > >really simple. They have asked me to offer up the code so
              > others may
              > >take advantage. The code is bare-bones and could likely be
              > >implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far. If you have
              > a
              > >access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice
              > just fine
              > >for your validation needs. Enjoy.
              > >
              > >*Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service
              > for
              > >customers does not have PHP installed. I assume SBC has the
              > same
              > >limitation.
              > >
              > >The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e.
              > margin of error)
              > >
              > >INDEX.HTML
              > >---
              > ><html>
              > ><head>
              > ><title></title>
              > ></head>
              > ><body>
              > ><form action="validate.php" method="post">
              > ><p>Latitude: <br />
              > >N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
              > >value="30"/>°<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
              > >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
              > >maxlength="3"/>'<br />
              > >Longitude: <br />
              > >W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
              > >value="97"/>°<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
              > >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
              > >maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
              > ><input type="submit" />
              > ></form>
              > ></body>
              > ></html>
              > >
              > >
              > >VALIDATE.PHP
              > >---
              > ><html><body>
              > ><?php
              > >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1
              > ==
              > >"97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
              > >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
              > >echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
              > >} else {
              > >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
              > >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
              > >echo 'Fire off an <a
              > >href="mailto:cacheowner@c...">e-mail</a> if youre
              > really
              > >lost.';
              > >}
              > >?>
              > ></body>
              > ></html>
              > >
              > >The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying
              > Triangle'
              > >(GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one
              > would be
              > >cruel and unusual ... ;)
              > >
              > >VALIDATE.PHP
              > >---
              > ><html><body>
              > ><?php
              > >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3
              > <=
              > >"678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" &&
              > $long3
              > ><= "678" ) {
              > >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
              > >echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097
              > 12.456</b>.<br />';
              > >} else {
              > >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
              > >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
              > >echo 'Fire off an <a
              > >href="mailto:cacheowner@c...">e-mail</a> if youre
              > really
              > >lost.';
              > >}
              > >?>
              > ></body>
              > ></html>
              > >
              > >Happy to answer any questions.
              > >
              > >--
              > >Nick Silkey
              > >a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
              > >N30 28.2' W097 46.6
              > >
              > >
              >
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            • Curtis Wyman
              Then you should just post a puzzle, then ask the cachers to solve it, then when the do, have them send you an e-mail, call, or come by, and then you could give
              Message 6 of 10 , Nov 3, 2005
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                Then you should just post a puzzle, then ask the cachers to solve it, then when the do, have them send you an e-mail, call, or come by, and then you could give them the coordinates they are after. :)
                -----Original Message-----
                From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Lowracer
                Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:25 AM
                To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Re: HOWTO: Puzzle Final Coordinate Validation

                When I do puzzle cache coordinate verification I require the puzzle
                solver to 'show their work' as it were, before I'll verify the answer.
                More interesting to me than the coordinates (which I already know) is
                exactly how the person figured it out.  Often times you will get
                solutions that are so off the wall yet somehow (through dumb luck or a
                brilliant turn of mind) they work. Also this helps cut down on
                cheating where the cheater just copied someone else's work.

                I'll avoid the scripts and still do email verification of coords.
                Part of the fun of puzzle caches for me is interacting with the puzzle
                crackers to see what makes their minds tick.  This is the human
                interest.  This is also how you get some great stories, useful at
                events such as Festivus during the "spinning of yarns."

                -mark
                aka Hugh Jazz, lowracer, and others.

                --- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "Perrine Julie-ra5686"
                <julieperrine@f...> wrote:
                >
                > Alan, would you post that to the YahooGroup, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
                > Julie
                > Mrs. Captain Picard
                >
                >       -----Original Message-----
                >       From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
                > [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan
                >       Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:08 PM
                >       To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
                >       Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] HOWTO: Puzzle Final
                > Coordinate Validation
                >      
                >      
                >       I like coordinate validation scripts also.  I like to write
                > scripts that
                >       "bang" at the validation scripts until it coughs up the
                > coordinates. :-D
                >      
                >      
                >       Nick Silkey wrote:
                >      
                >       >A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
                >       >coordinate validation on our puzzle caches.  The code behind
                > this is
                >       >really simple.  They have asked me to offer up the code so
                > others may
                >       >take advantage.  The code is bare-bones and could likely be
                >       >implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far.  If you have
                > a
                >       >access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice
                > just fine
                >       >for your validation needs.  Enjoy.
                >       >
                >       >*Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service
                > for
                >       >customers does not have PHP installed.  I assume SBC has the
                > same
                >       >limitation.
                >       >
                >       >The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e.
                > margin of error)
                >       >
                >       >INDEX.HTML
                >       >---
                >       ><html>
                >       ><head>
                >       ><title></title>
                >       ></head>
                >       ><body>
                >       ><form action="validate.php" method="post">
                >       ><p>Latitude: <br />
                >       >N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
                >       >value="30"/>&deg;<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
                >       >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
                >       >maxlength="3"/>'<br />
                >       >Longitude:  <br />
                >       >W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
                >       >value="97"/>&deg;<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
                >       >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
                >       >maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
                >       ><input type="submit" />
                >       ></form>
                >       ></body>
                >       ></html>
                >       >
                >       >
                >       >VALIDATE.PHP
                >       >---
                >       ><html><body>
                >       ><?php
                >       >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1
                > ==
                >       >"97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
                >       >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
                >       >echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
                >       >} else {
                >       >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
                >       >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
                >       >echo 'Fire off an <a
                >       >href="mailto:cacheowner@c...">e-mail</a> if youre
                > really
                >       >lost.';
                >       >}
                >       >?>
                >       ></body>
                >       ></html>
                >       >
                >       >The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying
                > Triangle'
                >       >(GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one
                > would be
                >       >cruel and unusual ... ;)
                >       >
                >       >VALIDATE.PHP
                >       >---
                >       ><html><body>
                >       ><?php
                >       >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3
                > <=
                >       >"678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" &&
                > $long3
                >       ><= "678" ) {
                >       >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
                >       >echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097
                > 12.456</b>.<br />';
                >       >} else {
                >       >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
                >       >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
                >       >echo 'Fire off an <a
                >       >href="mailto:cacheowner@c...">e-mail</a> if youre
                > really
                >       >lost.';
                >       >}
                >       >?>
                >       ></body>
                >       ></html>
                >       >
                >       >Happy to answer any questions.
                >       >
                >       >--
                >       >Nick Silkey
                >       >a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
                >       >N30 28.2' W097 46.6
                >       > 
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              • Roger Banks
                From one computer nerd to another, this is a perfectly valid and acceptable way to solve a puzzle. Every bit as valid as someone using pencil, paper, and slide
                Message 7 of 10 , Nov 3, 2005
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                  From one computer nerd to another, this is a perfectly valid and
                  acceptable way to solve a puzzle. Every bit as valid as someone using
                  pencil, paper, and slide rule to solve it the 'intended' way. There is
                  alway more than one way to skin a cat, especially when computers are
                  involved.

                  -- Roger

                  Alan wrote:

                  >I like coordinate validation scripts also. I like to write scripts that
                  >"bang" at the validation scripts until it coughs up the coordinates. :-D
                  >
                  >
                  >Nick Silkey wrote:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >>A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
                  >>coordinate validation on our puzzle caches. The code behind this is
                  >>really simple. They have asked me to offer up the code so others may
                  >>take advantage. The code is bare-bones and could likely be
                  >>implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far. If you have a
                  >>access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice just fine
                  >>for your validation needs. Enjoy.
                  >>
                  >>*Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service for
                  >>customers does not have PHP installed. I assume SBC has the same
                  >>limitation.
                  >>
                  >>The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e. margin of error)
                  >>
                  >>INDEX.HTML
                  >>---
                  >><html>
                  >><head>
                  >><title></title>
                  >></head>
                  >><body>
                  >><form action="validate.php" method="post">
                  >><p>Latitude: <br />
                  >>N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
                  >>value="30"/>°<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
                  >>maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
                  >>maxlength="3"/>'<br />
                  >>Longitude: <br />
                  >>W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
                  >>value="97"/>°<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
                  >>maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
                  >>maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
                  >><input type="submit" />
                  >></form>
                  >></body>
                  >></html>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>VALIDATE.PHP
                  >>---
                  >><html><body>
                  >><?php
                  >>if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1 ==
                  >>"97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
                  >>echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
                  >>echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
                  >>} else {
                  >>echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
                  >>echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
                  >>echo 'Fire off an <a
                  >>href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
                  >>lost.';
                  >>}
                  >>?>
                  >></body>
                  >></html>
                  >>
                  >>The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying Triangle'
                  >>(GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one would be
                  >>cruel and unusual ... ;)
                  >>
                  >>VALIDATE.PHP
                  >>---
                  >><html><body>
                  >><?php
                  >>if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3 <=
                  >>"678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" && $long3
                  >><= "678" ) {
                  >>echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
                  >>echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097 12.456</b>.<br />';
                  >>} else {
                  >>echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
                  >>echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
                  >>echo 'Fire off an <a
                  >>href="mailto:cacheowner@...">e-mail</a> if youre really
                  >>lost.';
                  >>}
                  >>?>
                  >></body>
                  >></html>
                  >>
                  >>Happy to answer any questions.
                  >>
                  >>--
                  >>Nick Silkey
                  >>a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
                  >>N30 28.2' W097 46.6
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
                  >>
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                • Kevin Mefford
                  See, he says he wants a call or email from cachers when they re solving one of his infamous puzzles, but when my wife and I solved this M15
                  Message 8 of 10 , Nov 3, 2005
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                    See, he says he wants a call or email from cachers when they're solving one of his infamous puzzles, but when my wife and I solved this M15 (http://tinyurl.com/239qv) and headed out at midnight and made the 45 minute drive just to make sure to snag the FTF, no one would answer the door at his house!!!
                     
                    And while I was searching for almost an hour...all I kept thinking was "did I really get those coordinates right"?  But to me, that's half the adventure of caching!!!!  So I say use the handy code that Nick created if you want, but nothing wrong with some blind luck or waiting for owner verification too.... :)
                     
                    Kevin
                    KoosKoos
                     
                    ----Original Message-----
                    From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Curtis Wyman
                    Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 3:25 PM
                    To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Re: HOWTO: Puzzle Final Coordinate Validation

                    Then you should just post a puzzle, then ask the cachers to solve it, then when the do, have them send you an e-mail, call, or come by, and then you could give them the coordinates they are after. :)
                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Lowracer
                    Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:25 AM
                    To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: [CentralTexasGeocachers] Re: HOWTO: Puzzle Final Coordinate Validation

                    When I do puzzle cache coordinate verification I require the puzzle
                    solver to 'show their work' as it were, before I'll verify the answer.
                    More interesting to me than the coordinates (which I already know) is
                    exactly how the person figured it out.  Often times you will get
                    solutions that are so off the wall yet somehow (through dumb luck or a
                    brilliant turn of mind) they work. Also this helps cut down on
                    cheating where the cheater just copied someone else's work.

                    I'll avoid the scripts and still do email verification of coords.
                    Part of the fun of puzzle caches for me is interacting with the puzzle
                    crackers to see what makes their minds tick.  This is the human
                    interest.  This is also how you get some great stories, useful at
                    events such as Festivus during the "spinning of yarns."

                    -mark
                    aka Hugh Jazz, lowracer, and others.

                    --- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "Perrine Julie-ra5686"
                    <julieperrine@f...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Alan, would you post that to the YahooGroup, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
                    > Julie
                    > Mrs. Captain Picard
                    >
                    >       -----Original Message-----
                    >       From: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
                    > [mailto:CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan
                    >       Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:08 PM
                    >       To: CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com
                    >       Subject: Re: [CentralTexasGeocachers] HOWTO: Puzzle Final
                    > Coordinate Validation
                    >      
                    >      
                    >       I like coordinate validation scripts also.  I like to write
                    > scripts that
                    >       "bang" at the validation scripts until it coughs up the
                    > coordinates. :-D
                    >      
                    >      
                    >       Nick Silkey wrote:
                    >      
                    >       >A few of the regulars have expressed how much they appreciate
                    >       >coordinate validation on our puzzle caches.  The code behind
                    > this is
                    >       >really simple.  They have asked me to offer up the code so
                    > others may
                    >       >take advantage.  The code is bare-bones and could likely be
                    >       >implemented better, but it hasnt failed thus far.  If you have
                    > a
                    >       >access to a webserver with PHP installed, it should suffice
                    > just fine
                    >       >for your validation needs.  Enjoy.
                    >       >
                    >       >*Time Warner has informed me that their personal pages service
                    > for
                    >       >customers does not have PHP installed.  I assume SBC has the
                    > same
                    >       >limitation.
                    >       >
                    >       >The below code is used to validate 'exact' coordinates (i.e.
                    > margin of error)
                    >       >
                    >       >INDEX.HTML
                    >       >---
                    >       ><html>
                    >       ><head>
                    >       ><title></title>
                    >       ></head>
                    >       ><body>
                    >       ><form action="validate.php" method="post">
                    >       ><p>Latitude: <br />
                    >       >N <input name="lat1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
                    >       >value="30"/>&deg;<input name="lat2" type="text" size="2"
                    >       >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="lat3" type="text" size="3"
                    >       >maxlength="3"/>'<br />
                    >       >Longitude:  <br />
                    >       >W 0<input name="long1" type="text" size="2" maxlength="2"
                    >       >value="97"/>&deg;<input name="long2" type="text" size="2"
                    >       >maxlength="2"/>.<input name="long3" type="text" size="3"
                    >       >maxlength="3"/>'<br /></p>
                    >       ><input type="submit" />
                    >       ></form>
                    >       ></body>
                    >       ></html>
                    >       >
                    >       >
                    >       >VALIDATE.PHP
                    >       >---
                    >       ><html><body>
                    >       ><?php
                    >       >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 == "345" && $long1
                    > ==
                    >       >"97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 == "345" ) {
                    >       >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
                    >       >echo 'The cache is hidden at N 30 12.345, W 97 12.345.<br />';
                    >       >} else {
                    >       >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
                    >       >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
                    >       >echo 'Fire off an <a
                    >       >href="mailto:cacheowner@c...">e-mail</a> if youre
                    > really
                    >       >lost.';
                    >       >}
                    >       >?>
                    >       ></body>
                    >       ></html>
                    >       >
                    >       >The below code is used to validate ranges (i.e. 'A Trying
                    > Triangle'
                    >       >(GCQJ6F) ... to make people hit it on the mark on that one
                    > would be
                    >       >cruel and unusual ... ;)
                    >       >
                    >       >VALIDATE.PHP
                    >       >---
                    >       ><html><body>
                    >       ><?php
                    >       >if ( $lat1 == "30" && $lat2 == "12" && $lat3 >= "345" && $lat3
                    > <=
                    >       >"678" && $long1 == "97" && $long2 == "12" && $long3 >= "345" &&
                    > $long3
                    >       ><= "678" ) {
                    >       >echo 'Your coordinates look good.<br />';
                    >       >echo 'The cache is hidden at <b>N 30 12.456 W 097
                    > 12.456</b>.<br />';
                    >       >} else {
                    >       >echo 'Your coordinates seem off.<br />';
                    >       >echo 'Perhaps you need to recheck your puzzle skills.<br />';
                    >       >echo 'Fire off an <a
                    >       >href="mailto:cacheowner@c...">e-mail</a> if youre
                    > really
                    >       >lost.';
                    >       >}
                    >       >?>
                    >       ></body>
                    >       ></html>
                    >       >
                    >       >Happy to answer any questions.
                    >       >
                    >       >--
                    >       >Nick Silkey
                    >       >a.k.a. filler of 'filler & bcat'
                    >       >N30 28.2' W097 46.6
                    >       > 
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                  • Lowracer
                    Ooh --I d forgotten all about that one. I ll have to redeploy that up here. It will cook some brains for sure. After I deployed an M13 clone here, the
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                      Ooh --I'd forgotten all about that one. I'll have to redeploy that up
                      here. It will cook some brains for sure. After I deployed an M13
                      clone here, the locals showed up at my front door with torches and
                      pitchforks, lots of pitchforks. Fortunately for me the cache was
                      hidden in plain sight on my front porch so they just logged it by
                      torchlight then went on home.

                      That's another way to get puzzle coords too I guess, threats of fire
                      and fork.

                      --- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Mefford"
                      <kmefford@a...> wrote:
                      >
                      but when my wife and I solved this M15 (http://tinyurl.com/239qv)
                    • Rich and Di Michelson
                      M15 is one of our LTF (last to find) caches. We seem to be LTF on a lot of caches. I swear we hide as good or better than it was hidden, and I swear we employ
                      Message 10 of 10 , Nov 3, 2005
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                        M15 is one of our LTF (last to find) caches.  We seem to be LTF on a lot of caches.  I swear we hide as good or better than it was hidden, and I swear we employ stealth tactics.  But we still have (what feels like) a lot of LTF logs.  Of course, M15 wasn't lost to muggles, it was lost to bad customer relations.
                         
                        --Di

                        >but when my wife and I solved this M15 (http://tinyurl.com/239qv)


                         
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