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  • Eoghan <eoghan@sharawadgi.com>
    Jan 1, 2003
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      Posted this yesterday but it never showed up in my email box, only
      the archives, so I'm resending it since it seems to have gotten lost
      somewhere on the way to distribution.

      --- In CentralTexasGeocachers@yahoogroups.com, "Eoghan <eoghan@s...>"
      <eoghan@s...> wrote:

      > > How long has thie discontent been brewing in the
      > > geocaching ranks?
      > The issue has been hot since the very beginning (about two and a
      > years ago). The first person to suggest the idea of a GPS Stash and
      > the first to hide one (Dave Ulmer) quit geocaching early on, in
      > part because of the debate over a centralized vs. decentralized
      > approach to cache listings.
      > (He also had strong reservations about the environmental effects of
      > the sport and was vocal about his disagreements with
      > For a while the geocaching.com site gave a brief history of the
      > saying that a 'gentleman' in Washington placed the first cache, but
      > now apparently to avoid the question of WHICH gentleman, the brief
      > history paragraph has been completely removed from the site. I'm
      > sure why else the history of the sport would be deemed unworthy of
      > place on the FAQ.)
      > The debate has also been a central sticking point between the
      > groundspeak team and Ed Hall, the creator of the BEST geocaching
      > (at Buxley's Geocaching Waypoint,
      > The pro's and con's have been endlessly debated on every forum I've
      > seen. If anyone wants to find out what each side has to say they
      > with a little work, dig it out of:
      > the groundspeak forums
      > (http://opentopic.groundspeak.com/0/OpenTopic),
      > the old groundspeak forums archive
      > (not all posts migrated to the new forums, not sure how to get to
      > these anymore),
      > the archive of the usenet group alt.rec.geocaching,
      > the original email list "Global Positioning Stash Hunt" archives
      > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gpsstash/),
      > the Navicache forums
      > (http://navicache.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi),
      > or the Geocaching Worldwide Forums
      > (http://www.geocachingworldwide.com/forum.asp)
      > Questions about centralized vs. decentralized, open source vs.
      > proprietary, single owner vs. organization, cache ownership vs.
      > stewardship, responsibilities of cache owners and listers,
      > cohesiveness of the data set vs. stale data sets, longevity of data
      > in the hands of a single entity, the legal status of databases,
      > oversight of listings vs. unrestricted listings, single contact
      > for land agencies vs. multiple groups, etc., et al, ad nauseum are
      > all there.
      > Those who've decided that they don't want anything do do with
      > geocaching.com but still enjoy geocaching have typically gone to
      > alt.rec.geocaching to discuss the sport, and post their caches to
      > of the alternate listing sites. By doing so their caches still end
      > on Buxley's maps and are available to most cachers.
      > My opinions on the issues would probably quadruple (at least) the
      > length of this post so I'll just stick a sock in it and keep them
      > myself for now.
      > Glad this conversation is still alive.
      > Cache on!,
      > -Eoghan
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