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  • mr xr7
    Max you must realize by now if it is not one problem with these then it is another. I e-mailed you basically saying cut your losses and don t put good money
    Message 1 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
      Max you must realize by now if it is not one problem with these then it is another. I e-mailed you basically saying cut your losses and don't put good money after bad. With all due respect you may have to rely on friends or public transportation for a while.

      --- On Tue, 9/30/08, maxine2play@... <maxine2play@...> wrote:
      From: maxine2play@... <maxine2play@...>
      Subject: Re: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
      To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:54 PM

                  I have had the same issue with my 99 Catera!!! So sick of this car.  But I have had the problem for over 2 yrs now.   Can't afford to spend any more money on this car.  Only car I own and Am buried in it and on a fixed income.   I would get rid of it if I could.   My light was on, after I had a head gasket job done.  After I picked it up.  They did not know why.  Also I have seen post regarding head gaskets, stating this is not a problem with this car?  Well mine had a 100,000 miles when I bought it. Now I know why it was unloaded after the warranty.   Found out it was the second gasket job on this car.  I also live in a town where they know of 7 of these cars.  When I looked to get the  head gaskets done, One shop had done three of them already.  The GM specialist, just did one job and needed to think about it.  Called back and said , no he did not want to do it again.  So I think this is a major issue also with this car.  
                  As far as the transmission light, I have been doing what you do.     I also towed this to eight times, trying to get it diagnosed and was told my transmission was gone!  Burnt up.  Said I would not even make it home.  Got it towed home.  Well with a fixed income and no other means, I have been driving the car, doing what you have been doing.  But now when I turn the car off, half the time it won't start!  I have to sit for about a hour.  So if you drive it long enough, be prepared for that.
            I also paid last year, $570.00 for some module fix to turn off the engine light on this car.   To smog it.  It came back on three days later.  Brought it back to the shop, told me it was something else!  They wanted two hours with it, at $75.00 a hour just to diagnose it.   So I have that light on, the transmission light, the radiator light, and the passengers air bag light also has been on since the head gasket job.
            I really was hoping to find a class action lawsuit regarding this car when I came to the board!  These cars should have all been recalled, no doubt.  It makes me sick how Cadillac has got away with this.  I could right a book about this car, how cad wants nothing to do with it.  No one wants to work on it or knows how?  I am not in a situation to chalk up my loss's or buy anything else.   Cadillac will not hesitate either (where I live) to tell people to stay away from this car.  That you need bucks, not just dollars but hundreds to thousands to keep this car.  (as I was told)  That expect a other light on, when you leave the shop before you get home.  That they should have never made this car. I was also told by Cad, that it is not a Cad.  There way of not even taking responsibility for this junk.  I asked why is there name on it?
                   If anyone hears of a class action lawsuit that is what would interest me.        Good luck to all of you who own this piece of junk.  Worse car I have ever seen made and no one doing anything about it.  You would think with all these same problems with this car, it would be under recalls??? Cad has wiped there hands from this vehicle as if it never existed.  Ever notice the book value on this junk? Taking a hammer, monthly.  Worse then any other vehicle out there.          Max
       
      In a message dated 9/30/2008 5:22:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, opa84291@yahoo. com writes:

      I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not give any errors.

      --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca> wrote:
      From: nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca>
      Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
      To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
      Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM

      My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
      country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
      almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
      for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
      running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
      stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
      on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
      then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
      home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
      again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
      chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
      it back on the highway.
      I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
      cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
      feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big bucks.
      Good luck with yours.

      --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@. ..> wrote:
      >
      > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
      put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
      the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
      out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
      the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
      in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
      into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
      one on the instrument cluster.
      >






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    • Chregan@aol.com
      Some people don t know any better and get taken advantage of. Sounds like your dealer is doing that to you.?You ve been duped into replacing things that
      Message 2 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
        Some people don't know any better and get taken advantage of. Sounds like your dealer is doing that to you. You've been duped into replacing things that weren't broken. In any case, I'd suggest selling the car because it doesn't sound like you're prepared to deal with its issues. You're expecting Cadillac to buy back a car with 100k+ miles? Puh-lease. Get over yourself.
        Next time, research your purchases better before making them. Somewhere, there's a Honda Civic with your name on it.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: maxine2play@...
        To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:54 pm
        Subject: Re: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                    I have had the same issue with my 99 Catera!!! So sick of this car.  But I have had the problem for over 2 yrs now.   Can't afford to spend any more money on this car.  Only car I own and Am buried in it and on a fixed income.   I would get rid of it if I could.   My light was on, after I had a head gasket job done.  After I picked it up.  They did not know why.  Also I have seen post regarding head gaskets, stating this is not a problem with this car?  Well mine had a 100,000 miles when I bought it. Now I know why it was unloaded after the warranty.   Found out it was the second gasket job on this car.  I also live in a town where they know of 7 of these cars.  When I looked to get the  head gaskets done, One shop had done three of them already.  The GM specialist, just did one job and needed to think about it.  Called back and said , no he did not want to do it again.  So I think this is a major issue also with this car.  
                    As far as the transmission light, I have been doing what you do.     I also towed this to eight times, trying to get it diagnosed and was told my transmission was gone!  Burnt up.  Said I would not even make it home.  Got it towed home.  Well with a fixed income and no other means, I have been driving the car, doing what you have been doing.  But now when I turn the car off, half the time it won't start!  I have to sit for about a hour.  So if you drive it long enough, be prepared for that.
              I also paid last year, $570.00 for some module fix to turn off the engine light on this car.   To smog it.  It came back on three days later.  Brought it back to the shop, told me it was something else!  They wanted two hours with it, at $75.00 a hour just to diagnose it.   So I have that light on, the transmission light, the radiator light, and the passengers air bag light also has been on since the head gasket job.
              I really was hoping to find a class action lawsuit regarding this car when I came to the board!  These cars should have all been recalled, no doubt.  It makes me sick how Cadillac has got away with this.  I could right a book about this car, how cad wants nothing to do with it.  No one wants to work on it or knows how?  I am not in a situation to chalk up my loss's or buy anything else.   Cadillac will not hesitate either (where I live) to tell people to stay away from this car.  That you need bucks, not just dollars but hundreds to thousands to keep this car.  (as I was told)  That expect a other light on, when you leave the shop before you get home.  That they should have never made this car. I was also told by Cad, that it is not a Cad.  There way of not even taking responsibility for this junk.  I asked why is there name on it?
                     If anyone hears of a class action lawsuit that is what would interest me.        Good luck to all of you who own this piece of junk.  Worse car I have ever seen made and no one doing anything about it.  You would think with all these same problems with this car, it would be under recalls??? Cad has wiped there hands from this vehicle as if it never existed.  Ever notice the book value on this junk? Taking a hammer, monthly.  Worse then any other vehicle out there.          Max
         
        In a message dated 9/30/2008 5:22:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, opa84291@yahoo. com writes:
        I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not give any errors.

        --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca> wrote:
        From: nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca>
        Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
        To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM

        My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
        country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
        almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
        for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
        running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
        stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
        on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
        then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
        home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
        again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
        chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
        it back on the highway.
        I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
        cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
        feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big bucks.
        Good luck with yours.

        --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@. ..> wrote:
        >
        > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
        put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
        the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
        out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
        the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
        in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
        into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
        one on the instrument cluster.
        >






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      • allsop_richard
        Oh dear someone is very upset, as already said your Cadillac dealer saw you coming . Most dealers, Cadillac in the USA, Vauxhall in the UK no very little with
        Message 3 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
          Oh dear someone is very upset, as already said your Cadillac
          dealer 'saw you coming'. Most dealers, Cadillac in the USA, Vauxhall
          in the UK no very little with regards to detail of the Catera/Omega,
          that is why "forums" like this were started. The GM V6 does not have
          a 'head gasket problem', it has a 'heater bypass valve' which when it
          fails the 'stealer' sorry 'dealer'take your money and changes the head
          gaskets, at 10 times the cost. I've owned 5 Omega/Catera models dating
          back to the early '90s and covered many 10 x 1000 miles and have never
          been let down.
          Worth knowing a little about the car before buying !!
          regards
          richarda
        • nzdurante
          Same here, no error codes whatsoever. I do know that my transmission fluid is dirty and not knowing the full history of the car, I assume the fluid and filter
          Message 4 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
            Same here, no error codes whatsoever.
            I do know that my transmission fluid is dirty and not knowing the full
            history of the car, I assume the fluid and filter have never been
            changed. That's why I thought maybe I should start there. Then again,
            if it's to do with worn bands or something like that it would be a
            waste of money.
            I need to take a 1000 miles round trip out west before the cold
            weather sets in but I don't dare with this car.

            --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, Norman Gauvin <opa84291@...> wrote:
            >
            > I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on
            is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it
            again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this
            car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not
            give any errors.
            >
            > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@...> wrote:
            >
            > From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
            > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
            > To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
            > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
            > country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
            > almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
            > for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
            > running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
            > stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
            > on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
            > then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
            > home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
            > again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
            > chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
            > it back on the highway.
            > I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
            > cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
            > feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big
            bucks.
            > Good luck with yours.
            >
            > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@ ..> wrote:
            > >
            > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
            > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
            > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
            > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
            > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
            > in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
            > into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
            > one on the instrument cluster.
            > >
            >
          • nzdurante
            Well I have put mine for sale, but so far I have not had one call. In a way I am kind of glad because I am still hooked on the way it handles and responds. I
            Message 5 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
              Well I have put mine for sale, but so far I have not had one call.
              In a way I am kind of glad because I am still hooked on the way it
              handles and responds. I overpaid for it when I bought it, didn't do
              enough research on it and I got hooked on it from the first ride I
              took in it. After that I went ahead and started "restoring" it. I
              spent approximately $3000.00 on various repairs, with me searching the
              internet for deals on parts and getting the actual work done at a
              local garage. So when I'm trying to pay down these bills it becomes
              very hard to decide to fix it.
              I might put it in storage for the winter and take a fresh look at it
              again in the spring. My current issues are:
              1- small coolant leak at back of engine - heater valve changed 6
              month, 1000 kms (600 miles)ago.
              2- Transmission light comes on - car in limp mode- resets with restart
              3- Would like to either replace the oil cooler or remove it.
              4- Would like to get a fob set up
              5- Minor body rust and 1 small dent
              6- Windshield is cracked (not in line of vision)
              Probably about 3000 for the tranny job, another 1000 for the cooler
              job, 200 for the fob, body work and paint maybe 1000, windshield 1000?


              --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, maxine2play@... wrote:
              >
              > I have had the same issue with my 99 Catera!!! So sick of this car.
              But I
              > have had the problem for over 2 yrs now. Can't afford to spend
              any more
              > money on this car. Only car I own and Am buried in it and on a
              fixed income.
              > I would get rid of it if I could. My light was on, after I had a
              head
              > gasket job done. After I picked it up. They did not know why.
              Also I have seen
              > post regarding head gaskets, stating this is not a problem with
              this car?
              > Well mine had a 100,000 miles when I bought it. Now I know why it
              was unloaded
              > after the warranty. Found out it was the second gasket job on
              this car. I
              > also live in a town where they know of 7 of these cars. When I
              looked to get
              > the head gaskets done, One shop had done three of them already.
              The GM
              > specialist, just did one job and needed to think about it. Called
              back and said
              > , no he did not want to do it again. So I think this is a major
              issue also
              > with this car.
              > As far as the transmission light, I have been doing what you do.
              I also
              > towed this to eight times, trying to get it diagnosed and was told my
              > transmission was gone! Burnt up. Said I would not even make it
              home. Got it
              > towed home. Well with a fixed income and no other means, I have
              been driving the
              > car, doing what you have been doing. But now when I turn the car
              off, half
              > the time it won't start! I have to sit for about a hour. So if
              you drive it
              > long enough, be prepared for that.
              > I also paid last year, $570.00 for some module fix to turn
              off the
              > engine light on this car. To smog it. It came back on three days
              later.
              > Brought it back to the shop, told me it was something else! They
              wanted two
              > hours with it, at $75.00 a hour just to diagnose it. So I have
              that light on,
              > the transmission light, the radiator light, and the passengers air
              bag light
              > also has been on since the head gasket job.
              > I really was hoping to find a class action lawsuit regarding
              this car
              > when I came to the board! These cars should have all been
              recalled, no
              > doubt. It makes me sick how Cadillac has got away with this. I
              could right a
              > book about this car, how cad wants nothing to do with it. No one
              wants to work
              > on it or knows how? I am not in a situation to chalk up my loss's
              or buy
              > anything else. Cadillac will not hesitate either (where I live)
              to tell
              > people to stay away from this car. That you need bucks, not just
              dollars but
              > hundreds to thousands to keep this car. (as I was told) That
              expect a other
              > light on, when you leave the shop before you get home. That they
              should have
              > never made this car. I was also told by Cad, that it is not a Cad.
              There way
              > of not even taking responsibility for this junk. I asked why is
              there name on
              > it?
              > If anyone hears of a class action lawsuit that is what
              would
              > interest me. Good luck to all of you who own this piece of
              junk. Worse
              > car I have ever seen made and no one doing anything about it. You
              would
              > think with all these same problems with this car, it would be under
              recalls???
              > Cad has wiped there hands from this vehicle as if it never existed.
              Ever
              > notice the book value on this junk? Taking a hammer, monthly.
              Worse then any
              > other vehicle out there. Max
              >
              >
              > In a message dated 9/30/2008 5:22:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
              > opa84291@... writes:
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes
              on is pull
              > over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it again. All
              problems
              > seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this car does this but
              it does.
              > I had the car scanned and the car does not give any errors.
              >
              > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@...> wrote:
              >
              > From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
              > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
              > To: CateraOwners@To: To:
              > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM
              >
              >
              >
              > My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
              > country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
              > almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
              > for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
              > running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
              > stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
              > on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
              > then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
              > home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
              > again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
              > chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
              > it back on the highway.
              > I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
              > cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
              > feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big
              bucks.
              > Good luck with yours.
              >
              > --- In _CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com_
              (mailto:CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com)
              > , "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@ ..> wrote:
              > >
              > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
              > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
              > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
              > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
              > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
              > in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
              > into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
              > one on the instrument cluster.
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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            • maxine2play@aol.com
              First you can keep your comments to your self. Don t tell me to get over my self. I was screwed on this car. Like a lot of people. I have found many
              Message 6 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
                 
                       First you can keep your comments to your self.  Don't tell me to get over my self.  I was screwed on this car.   Like a lot of people.  I have found many other boards, where people feel the same way as I do.   Many people feel Cad should purchase this junk back.   When I purchased this car, with the 100.000 on it booked for 12,000 to 14,000.   Did not expect it to be a junk car, and cost me a arm and a leg, to drive.  I have only put 30,000 miles on top of that, and have paid over a other 6000 into it.   So being that three years ago, on a trade Cad offered me 1500 for it?  Ok, it is not the point of them just buying it back.  This car is UN SELLABLE.  Cad helps that along, by telling people to stay away from it.  I CALL THAT GETTING SCREWED.  No car lots want this thing for a trade.  It is flagged on there list, as a car they will not even put in there lot!   OFF To the auction.   For your info I did research the car when I bought it.  Most where under the 100,000 mile warranty.   Which Cad choose to keep quite about.  So I found NO NEG ON THIS CAR.  All this info and a lot of it, is out there now.  And it is not the fact that the car has a 100,000+ on it, it is the car is a lemon.   Cad is well aware of it.  And if you read my post,  It is not so easy for everyone to just go buy a other car.  I find it amazing, that people are searching for HOW  TO FIX THIS AND THAT, if that does not show this car should have never been made.  Customers should not have to go through this, who have purchased a car, paid good money for it, and have it broke and costing outrages amounts to just drive it.  You need to become a specialist your self to drive this car.   Hey maybe you can open a school to go to for owners of the catera.   What works and does not work.   And If I could afford a other car and get some money back out of this, believe me I would.
                In a message dated 10/1/2008 7:17:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Chregan@... writes:

                Some people don't know any better and get taken advantage of. Sounds like your dealer is doing that to you. You've been duped into replacing things that weren't broken. In any case, I'd suggest selling the car because it doesn't sound like you're prepared to deal with its issues. You're expecting Cadillac to buy back a car with 100k+ miles? Puh-lease. Get over yourself.
                Next time, research your purchases better before making them. Somewhere, there's a Honda Civic with your name on it.


                -----Original Message-----
                From: maxine2play@ aol.com
                To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:54 pm
                Subject: Re: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                            I have had the same issue with my 99 Catera!!! So sick of this car.  But I have had the problem for over 2 yrs now.   Can't afford to spend any more money on this car.  Only car I own and Am buried in it and on a fixed income.   I would get rid of it if I could.   My light was on, after I had a head gasket job done.  After I picked it up.  They did not know why.  Also I have seen post regarding head gaskets, stating this is not a problem with this car?  Well mine had a 100,000 miles when I bought it. Now I know why it was unloaded after the warranty.   Found out it was the second gasket job on this car.  I also live in a town where they know of 7 of these cars.  When I looked to get the  head gaskets done, One shop had done three of them already.  The GM specialist, just did one job and needed to think about it.  Called back and said , no he did not want to do it again.  So I think this is a major issue also with this car.  
                            As far as the transmission light, I have been doing what you do.     I also towed this to eight times, trying to get it diagnosed and was told my transmission was gone!  Burnt up.  Said I would not even make it home.  Got it towed home.  Well with a fixed income and no other means, I have been driving the car, doing what you have been doing.  But now when I turn the car off, half the time it won't start!  I have to sit for about a hour.  So if you drive it long enough, be prepared for that.
                      I also paid last year, $570.00 for some module fix to turn off the engine light on this car.   To smog it.  It came back on three days later.  Brought it back to the shop, told me it was something else!  They wanted two hours with it, at $75.00 a hour just to diagnose it.   So I have that light on, the transmission light, the radiator light, and the passengers air bag light also has been on since the head gasket job.
                      I really was hoping to find a class action lawsuit regarding this car when I came to the board!  These cars should have all been recalled, no doubt.  It makes me sick how Cadillac has got away with this.  I could right a book about this car, how cad wants nothing to do with it.  No one wants to work on it or knows how?  I am not in a situation to chalk up my loss's or buy anything else.   Cadillac will not hesitate either (where I live) to tell people to stay away from this car.  That you need bucks, not just dollars but hundreds to thousands to keep this car.  (as I was told)  That expect a other light on, when you leave the shop before you get home.  That they should have never made this car. I was also told by Cad, that it is not a Cad.  There way of not even taking responsibility for this junk.  I asked why is there name on it?
                             If anyone hears of a class action lawsuit that is what would interest me.        Good luck to all of you who own this piece of junk.  Worse car I have ever seen made and no one doing anything about it.  You would think with all these same problems with this car, it would be under recalls??? Cad has wiped there hands from this vehicle as if it never existed.  Ever notice the book value on this junk? Taking a hammer, monthly.  Worse then any other vehicle out there.          Max
                 
                In a message dated 9/30/2008 5:22:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, opa84291@yahoo. com writes:
                I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not give any errors.

                --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca> wrote:
                From: nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca>
                Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM

                My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
                country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
                almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
                for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
                running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
                stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
                on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
                then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
                home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
                again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
                chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
                it back on the highway.
                I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
                cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
                feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big bucks.
                Good luck with yours.

                --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@. ..> wrote:
                >
                > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
                in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
                into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
                one on the instrument cluster.
                >






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              • maxine2play@aol.com
                Thanks appreciate it. I realize this. I live in the country, there is no public transportation. I am 20 miles out. I will do what I need to, to dump
                Message 7 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
                  Thanks appreciate it.   I realize this.  I live in the country, there is no public transportation.  I am 20 miles out.  I will do what I need to, to dump this car.  Just so done with it.  Max
                   
                  In a message dated 10/1/2008 3:08:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mrxr7@... writes:

                  Max you must realize by now if it is not one problem with these then it is another. I e-mailed you basically saying cut your losses and don't put good money after bad. With all due respect you may have to rely on friends or public transportation for a while.

                  --- On Tue, 9/30/08, maxine2play@ aol.com <maxine2play@ aol.com> wrote:
                  From: maxine2play@ aol.com <maxine2play@ aol.com>
                  Subject: Re: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                  To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                  Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:54 PM

                              I have had the same issue with my 99 Catera!!! So sick of this car.  But I have had the problem for over 2 yrs now.   Can't afford to spend any more money on this car.  Only car I own and Am buried in it and on a fixed income.   I would get rid of it if I could.   My light was on, after I had a head gasket job done.  After I picked it up.  They did not know why.  Also I have seen post regarding head gaskets, stating this is not a problem with this car?  Well mine had a 100,000 miles when I bought it. Now I know why it was unloaded after the warranty.   Found out it was the second gasket job on this car.  I also live in a town where they know of 7 of these cars.  When I looked to get the  head gaskets done, One shop had done three of them already.  The GM specialist, just did one job and needed to think about it.  Called back and said , no he did not want to do it again.  So I think this is a major issue also with this car.  
                              As far as the transmission light, I have been doing what you do.     I also towed this to eight times, trying to get it diagnosed and was told my transmission was gone!  Burnt up.  Said I would not even make it home.  Got it towed home.  Well with a fixed income and no other means, I have been driving the car, doing what you have been doing.  But now when I turn the car off, half the time it won't start!  I have to sit for about a hour.  So if you drive it long enough, be prepared for that.
                        I also paid last year, $570.00 for some module fix to turn off the engine light on this car.   To smog it.  It came back on three days later.  Brought it back to the shop, told me it was something else!  They wanted two hours with it, at $75.00 a hour just to diagnose it.   So I have that light on, the transmission light, the radiator light, and the passengers air bag light also has been on since the head gasket job.
                        I really was hoping to find a class action lawsuit regarding this car when I came to the board!  These cars should have all been recalled, no doubt.  It makes me sick how Cadillac has got away with this.  I could right a book about this car, how cad wants nothing to do with it.  No one wants to work on it or knows how?  I am not in a situation to chalk up my loss's or buy anything else.   Cadillac will not hesitate either (where I live) to tell people to stay away from this car.  That you need bucks, not just dollars but hundreds to thousands to keep this car.  (as I was told)  That expect a other light on, when you leave the shop before you get home.  That they should have never made this car. I was also told by Cad, that it is not a Cad.  There way of not even taking responsibility for this junk.  I asked why is there name on it?
                               If anyone hears of a class action lawsuit that is what would interest me.        Good luck to all of you who own this piece of junk.  Worse car I have ever seen made and no one doing anything about it.  You would think with all these same problems with this car, it would be under recalls??? Cad has wiped there hands from this vehicle as if it never existed.  Ever notice the book value on this junk? Taking a hammer, monthly.  Worse then any other vehicle out there.          Max
                   
                  In a message dated 9/30/2008 5:22:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, opa84291@yahoo. com writes:

                  I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not give any errors.

                  --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca> wrote:
                  From: nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca>
                  Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                  To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                  Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM

                  My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
                  country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
                  almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
                  for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
                  running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
                  stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
                  on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
                  then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
                  home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
                  again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
                  chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
                  it back on the highway.
                  I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
                  cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
                  feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big bucks.
                  Good luck with yours.

                  --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@. ..> wrote:
                  >
                  > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                  put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                  the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                  out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                  the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
                  in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
                  into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
                  one on the instrument cluster.
                  >






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                • Chregan@aol.com
                  Get over yourself. You bought the wrong car for someone of your knowledge and skill level. Had you Googled catera problems 3 years ago, you would have found
                  Message 8 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
                    Get over yourself. You bought the wrong car for someone of your knowledge and skill level. Had you Googled "catera problems" 3 years ago, you would have found this group and known what to expect.
                    If you think you're so smart, go find another sucker out there who will pay book value for your car. Believe it or not, Cadillac is not the only company allowed to buy cars. After all, someone unloaded this car on you, didn't they?
                     
                    In a message dated 10/1/2008 6:43:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maxine2play@... writes:

                     
                           First you can keep your comments to your self.  Don't tell me to get over my self.  I was screwed on this car.   Like a lot of people.  I have found many other boards, where people feel the same way as I do.   Many people feel Cad should purchase this junk back.   When I purchased this car, with the 100.000 on it booked for 12,000 to 14,000.   Did not expect it to be a junk car, and cost me a arm and a leg, to drive.  I have only put 30,000 miles on top of that, and have paid over a other 6000 into it.   So being that three years ago, on a trade Cad offered me 1500 for it?  Ok, it is not the point of them just buying it back.  This car is UN SELLABLE.  Cad helps that along, by telling people to stay away from it.  I CALL THAT GETTING SCREWED.  No car lots want this thing for a trade.  It is flagged on there list, as a car they will not even put in there lot!   OFF To the auction.   For your info I did research the car when I bought it.  Most where under the 100,000 mile warranty.   Which Cad choose to keep quite about.  So I found NO NEG ON THIS CAR.  All this info and a lot of it, is out there now.  And it is not the fact that the car has a 100,000+ on it, it is the car is a lemon.   Cad is well aware of it.  And if you read my post,  It is not so easy for everyone to just go buy a other car.  I find it amazing, that people are searching for HOW  TO FIX THIS AND THAT, if that does not show this car should have never been made.  Customers should not have to go through this, who have purchased a car, paid good money for it, and have it broke and costing outrages amounts to just drive it.  You need to become a specialist your self to drive this car.   Hey maybe you can open a school to go to for owners of the catera.   What works and does not work.   And If I could afford a other car and get some money back out of this, believe me I would.
                    In a message dated 10/1/2008 7:17:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Chregan@aol. com writes:

                    Some people don't know any better and get taken advantage of. Sounds like your dealer is doing that to you. You've been duped into replacing things that weren't broken. In any case, I'd suggest selling the car because it doesn't sound like you're prepared to deal with its issues. You're expecting Cadillac to buy back a car with 100k+ miles? Puh-lease. Get over yourself.
                    Next time, research your purchases better before making them. Somewhere, there's a Honda Civic with your name on it.


                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: maxine2play@ aol.com
                    To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                    Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:54 pm
                    Subject: Re: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                                I have had the same issue with my 99 Catera!!! So sick of this car.  But I have had the problem for over 2 yrs now.   Can't afford to spend any more money on this car.  Only car I own and Am buried in it and on a fixed income.   I would get rid of it if I could.   My light was on, after I had a head gasket job done.  After I picked it up.  They did not know why.  Also I have seen post regarding head gaskets, stating this is not a problem with this car?  Well mine had a 100,000 miles when I bought it. Now I know why it was unloaded after the warranty.   Found out it was the second gasket job on this car.  I also live in a town where they know of 7 of these cars.  When I looked to get the  head gaskets done, One shop had done three of them already.  The GM specialist, just did one job and needed to think about it.  Called back and said , no he did not want to do it again.  So I think this is a major issue also with this car.  
                                As far as the transmission light, I have been doing what you do.     I also towed this to eight times, trying to get it diagnosed and was told my transmission was gone!  Burnt up.  Said I would not even make it home.  Got it towed home.  Well with a fixed income and no other means, I have been driving the car, doing what you have been doing.  But now when I turn the car off, half the time it won't start!  I have to sit for about a hour.  So if you drive it long enough, be prepared for that.
                          I also paid last year, $570.00 for some module fix to turn off the engine light on this car.   To smog it.  It came back on three days later.  Brought it back to the shop, told me it was something else!  They wanted two hours with it, at $75.00 a hour just to diagnose it.   So I have that light on, the transmission light, the radiator light, and the passengers air bag light also has been on since the head gasket job.
                          I really was hoping to find a class action lawsuit regarding this car when I came to the board!  These cars should have all been recalled, no doubt.  It makes me sick how Cadillac has got away with this.  I could right a book about this car, how cad wants nothing to do with it.  No one wants to work on it or knows how?  I am not in a situation to chalk up my loss's or buy anything else.   Cadillac will not hesitate either (where I live) to tell people to stay away from this car.  That you need bucks, not just dollars but hundreds to thousands to keep this car.  (as I was told)  That expect a other light on, when you leave the shop before you get home.  That they should have never made this car. I was also told by Cad, that it is not a Cad.  There way of not even taking responsibility for this junk.  I asked why is there name on it?
                                 If anyone hears of a class action lawsuit that is what would interest me.        Good luck to all of you who own this piece of junk.  Worse car I have ever seen made and no one doing anything about it.  You would think with all these same problems with this car, it would be under recalls??? Cad has wiped there hands from this vehicle as if it never existed.  Ever notice the book value on this junk? Taking a hammer, monthly.  Worse then any other vehicle out there.          Max
                     
                    In a message dated 9/30/2008 5:22:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, opa84291@yahoo. com writes:
                    I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not give any errors.

                    --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca> wrote:
                    From: nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca>
                    Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                    To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                    Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM

                    My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
                    country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
                    almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
                    for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
                    running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
                    stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
                    on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
                    then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
                    home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
                    again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
                    chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
                    it back on the highway.
                    I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
                    cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
                    feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big bucks.
                    Good luck with yours.

                    --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@. ..> wrote:
                    >
                    > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                    put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                    the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                    out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                    the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
                    in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
                    into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
                    one on the instrument cluster.
                    >






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                  • maxine2play@aol.com
                    Don t some people have better things to do then to make rude comment s to people? In a message dated 10/1/2008 4:21:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
                    Message 9 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
                              Don't some people have better things to do then to make rude comment's to people? 
                       
                      In a message dated 10/1/2008 4:21:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Chregan@... writes:

                      Get over yourself. You bought the wrong car for someone of your knowledge and skill level. Had you Googled "catera problems" 3 years ago, you would have found this group and known what to expect.
                      If you think you're so smart, go find another sucker out there who will pay book value for your car. Believe it or not, Cadillac is not the only company allowed to buy cars. After all, someone unloaded this car on you, didn't they?
                       
                      In a message dated 10/1/2008 6:43:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maxine2play@ aol.com writes:

                       
                             First you can keep your comments to your self.  Don't tell me to get over my self.  I was screwed on this car.   Like a lot of people.  I have found many other boards, where people feel the same way as I do.   Many people feel Cad should purchase this junk back.   When I purchased this car, with the 100.000 on it booked for 12,000 to 14,000.   Did not expect it to be a junk car, and cost me a arm and a leg, to drive.  I have only put 30,000 miles on top of that, and have paid over a other 6000 into it.   So being that three years ago, on a trade Cad offered me 1500 for it?  Ok, it is not the point of them just buying it back.  This car is UN SELLABLE.  Cad helps that along, by telling people to stay away from it.  I CALL THAT GETTING SCREWED.  No car lots want this thing for a trade.  It is flagged on there list, as a car they will not even put in there lot!   OFF To the auction.   For your info I did research the car when I bought it.  Most where under the 100,000 mile warranty.   Which Cad choose to keep quite about.  So I found NO NEG ON THIS CAR.  All this info and a lot of it, is out there now.  And it is not the fact that the car has a 100,000+ on it, it is the car is a lemon.   Cad is well aware of it.  And if you read my post,  It is not so easy for everyone to just go buy a other car.  I find it amazing, that people are searching for HOW  TO FIX THIS AND THAT, if that does not show this car should have never been made.  Customers should not have to go through this, who have purchased a car, paid good money for it, and have it broke and costing outrages amounts to just drive it.  You need to become a specialist your self to drive this car.   Hey maybe you can open a school to go to for owners of the catera.   What works and does not work.   And If I could afford a other car and get some money back out of this, believe me I would.
                      In a message dated 10/1/2008 7:17:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Chregan@aol. com writes:

                      Some people don't know any better and get taken advantage of. Sounds like your dealer is doing that to you. You've been duped into replacing things that weren't broken. In any case, I'd suggest selling the car because it doesn't sound like you're prepared to deal with its issues. You're expecting Cadillac to buy back a car with 100k+ miles? Puh-lease. Get over yourself.
                      Next time, research your purchases better before making them. Somewhere, there's a Honda Civic with your name on it.


                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: maxine2play@ aol.com
                      To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                      Sent: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:54 pm
                      Subject: Re: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                                  I have had the same issue with my 99 Catera!!! So sick of this car.  But I have had the problem for over 2 yrs now.   Can't afford to spend any more money on this car.  Only car I own and Am buried in it and on a fixed income.   I would get rid of it if I could.   My light was on, after I had a head gasket job done.  After I picked it up.  They did not know why.  Also I have seen post regarding head gaskets, stating this is not a problem with this car?  Well mine had a 100,000 miles when I bought it. Now I know why it was unloaded after the warranty.   Found out it was the second gasket job on this car.  I also live in a town where they know of 7 of these cars.  When I looked to get the  head gaskets done, One shop had done three of them already.  The GM specialist, just did one job and needed to think about it.  Called back and said , no he did not want to do it again.  So I think this is a major issue also with this car.  
                                  As far as the transmission light, I have been doing what you do.     I also towed this to eight times, trying to get it diagnosed and was told my transmission was gone!  Burnt up.  Said I would not even make it home.  Got it towed home.  Well with a fixed income and no other means, I have been driving the car, doing what you have been doing.  But now when I turn the car off, half the time it won't start!  I have to sit for about a hour.  So if you drive it long enough, be prepared for that.
                            I also paid last year, $570.00 for some module fix to turn off the engine light on this car.   To smog it.  It came back on three days later.  Brought it back to the shop, told me it was something else!  They wanted two hours with it, at $75.00 a hour just to diagnose it.   So I have that light on, the transmission light, the radiator light, and the passengers air bag light also has been on since the head gasket job.
                            I really was hoping to find a class action lawsuit regarding this car when I came to the board!  These cars should have all been recalled, no doubt.  It makes me sick how Cadillac has got away with this.  I could right a book about this car, how cad wants nothing to do with it.  No one wants to work on it or knows how?  I am not in a situation to chalk up my loss's or buy anything else.   Cadillac will not hesitate either (where I live) to tell people to stay away from this car.  That you need bucks, not just dollars but hundreds to thousands to keep this car.  (as I was told)  That expect a other light on, when you leave the shop before you get home.  That they should have never made this car. I was also told by Cad, that it is not a Cad.  There way of not even taking responsibility for this junk.  I asked why is there name on it?
                                   If anyone hears of a class action lawsuit that is what would interest me.        Good luck to all of you who own this piece of junk.  Worse car I have ever seen made and no one doing anything about it.  You would think with all these same problems with this car, it would be under recalls??? Cad has wiped there hands from this vehicle as if it never existed.  Ever notice the book value on this junk? Taking a hammer, monthly.  Worse then any other vehicle out there.          Max
                       
                      In a message dated 9/30/2008 5:22:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, opa84291@yahoo. com writes:
                      I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not give any errors.

                      --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca> wrote:
                      From: nzdurante <edurante@shaw. ca>
                      Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                      To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                      Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM

                      My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
                      country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
                      almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
                      for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
                      running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
                      stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
                      on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
                      then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
                      home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
                      again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
                      chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
                      it back on the highway.
                      I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
                      cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
                      feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big bucks.
                      Good luck with yours.

                      --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@. ..> wrote:
                      >
                      > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                      put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                      the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                      out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                      the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
                      in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
                      into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
                      one on the instrument cluster.
                      >






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                    • gord_gecko
                      Gentlemen, you can t fight in here! This is the War Room!
                      Message 10 of 28 , Oct 1, 2008
                        Gentlemen, you can't fight in here!
                        This is the War Room!
                      • Tyrrell
                        I have not had the light come on again this week and all seems good - could have been a momentary glitch in one of the modules or perhaps some dirt on speed
                        Message 11 of 28 , Oct 2, 2008
                          I have not had the light come on again this week and all seems good - could have been a momentary glitch in one of the modules or perhaps some dirt on speed sensor. So far it runs fine. Strange little happenings the odd time with the Cat. Keeps you on your toes for sure. Hank
                           
                           
                          ----- Original Message -----
                          Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:35 PM
                          Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                          --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@. ..> wrote:
                          >
                          > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                          put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                          the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                          out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                          the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
                          in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
                          into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
                          one on the instrument cluster.
                          >
                          Mine has done the same thing on the highway, except mine never slowed
                          down. A shut down, restart, fixed the problem.

                        • mcarcher10
                          ... the ... it ... restart ... 1000? Where did your windshield start to crack? My passenger side corner had some white residue that looked like there was milk
                          Message 12 of 28 , Oct 2, 2008
                            --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, "nzdurante" <edurante@...>
                            wrote:
                            >
                            > Well I have put mine for sale, but so far I have not had one call.
                            > In a way I am kind of glad because I am still hooked on the way it
                            > handles and responds. I overpaid for it when I bought it, didn't do
                            > enough research on it and I got hooked on it from the first ride I
                            > took in it. After that I went ahead and started "restoring" it. I
                            > spent approximately $3000.00 on various repairs, with me searching
                            the
                            > internet for deals on parts and getting the actual work done at a
                            > local garage. So when I'm trying to pay down these bills it becomes
                            > very hard to decide to fix it.
                            > I might put it in storage for the winter and take a fresh look at
                            it
                            > again in the spring. My current issues are:
                            > 1- small coolant leak at back of engine - heater valve changed 6
                            > month, 1000 kms (600 miles)ago.
                            > 2- Transmission light comes on - car in limp mode- resets with
                            restart
                            > 3- Would like to either replace the oil cooler or remove it.
                            > 4- Would like to get a fob set up
                            > 5- Minor body rust and 1 small dent
                            > 6- Windshield is cracked (not in line of vision)
                            > Probably about 3000 for the tranny job, another 1000 for the cooler
                            > job, 200 for the fob, body work and paint maybe 1000, windshield
                            1000?

                            Where did your windshield start to crack? My passenger side corner
                            had some white residue that looked like there was milk spilled under
                            the glass. Then, later, that area started cracking in a circular
                            pattern. Eventually, a line crack formed and traveled halfway up the
                            glass. Very odd.
                          • John
                            Sup Guys! Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE; no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages. I am experiencing the same tranny
                            Message 13 of 28 , Oct 2, 2008
                              Sup Guys!
                              Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE;
                              no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.

                              I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally;what is
                              the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                              Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?

                              Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                              not very appealing right now.

                              Thanks!

                              John

                              --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                              put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                              the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                              out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                              the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                              it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                              went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                              than the one on the instrument cluster.
                              >
                            • jbeardjr@yahoo.com
                              Sup Guy!   I am experiencing the beginnings of this problem with my Catera;what leads you to believe the tranny prblem is clutch related? Please explain as I
                              Message 14 of 28 , Oct 3, 2008

                                'Sup Guy!

                                 

                                I am experiencing the beginnings of this problem with my Catera;what leads you to believe the tranny prblem is clutch related?

                                Please explain as I 'm not a tranny guy, and if the clutches were gone,why would it drive at all?

                                Being intermittent,could it be an electronic, or trans computer management glitch?

                                 

                                Thanks in advance for your thoughts,

                                 

                                John



                                ----- Original Message ----
                                From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 4:37:43 PM
                                Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                                Same here, no error codes whatsoever.
                                I do know that my transmission fluid is dirty and not knowing the full
                                history of the car, I assume the fluid and filter have never been
                                changed. That's why I thought maybe I should start there. Then again,
                                if it's to do with worn bands or something like that it would be a
                                waste of money.
                                I need to take a 1000 miles round trip out west before the cold
                                weather sets in but I don't dare with this car.

                                --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, Norman Gauvin <opa84291@.. .> wrote:
                                >
                                > I have the same issue all the time. All I do when the light comes on
                                is pull over shut the car off for about 10 seconds then start it
                                again. All problems seem to clear with the restart. Not sure why this
                                car does this but it does. I had the car scanned and the car does not
                                give any errors.
                                >
                                > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, nzdurante <edurante@.. .> wrote:
                                >
                                > From: nzdurante <edurante@.. .>
                                > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                > To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                                > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:07 PM
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > My '98 is "waiting disposition" so to speak. My wife and I went for a
                                > country ride one sunday morning and I pushed it a bit, got it up to
                                > almost pin the needle. Came back into town, stopped at a restaurant
                                > for my wife to use the facilities. I sat in the car with the engine
                                > running until my wife came out. I put the car back into drive ,
                                > stepped on the gas and ... nothing. The transmission warning light was
                                > on. The car wouldn't move. Finally got mobile by putting it into 1st,
                                > then manually shifted to 2nd and 3rd as the speed increased. Once
                                > home, the car sat shut down for 30 minutes or so, then I tried it
                                > again, no problem and the transmosion light never came back. Drove to
                                > chores around town all week without a problem, but I'm afraid to take
                                > it back on the highway.
                                > I know I should have it checked, but right now I'm tapped out for
                                > cash. I was going to try a fluid and filter change, but I have a
                                > feeling it's probably a clutch related problem and that spells big
                                bucks.
                                > Good luck with yours.
                                >
                                > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@ ..> wrote:
                                > >
                                > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put it
                                > in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it went
                                > into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other than the
                                > one on the instrument cluster.
                                > >
                                >


                              • nzdurante
                                My windshield is cracked in the lower left hand side, when looking at it from inside. About 6 up and 12 inches from the end, a nice little arc. In your case I
                                Message 15 of 28 , Oct 3, 2008
                                  My windshield is cracked in the lower left hand side, when looking at
                                  it from inside. About 6" up and 12 inches from the end, a nice little arc.
                                  In your case I would say it might have been defective from the start.
                                  They usually don't separate like that.

                                  --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, "mcarcher10" <mcarcher10@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, "nzdurante" <edurante@>
                                  > wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > Well I have put mine for sale, but so far I have not had one call.
                                  > > In a way I am kind of glad because I am still hooked on the way it
                                  > > handles and responds. I overpaid for it when I bought it, didn't do
                                  > > enough research on it and I got hooked on it from the first ride I
                                  > > took in it. After that I went ahead and started "restoring" it. I
                                  > > spent approximately $3000.00 on various repairs, with me searching
                                  > the
                                  > > internet for deals on parts and getting the actual work done at a
                                  > > local garage. So when I'm trying to pay down these bills it becomes
                                  > > very hard to decide to fix it.
                                  > > I might put it in storage for the winter and take a fresh look at
                                  > it
                                  > > again in the spring. My current issues are:
                                  > > 1- small coolant leak at back of engine - heater valve changed 6
                                  > > month, 1000 kms (600 miles)ago.
                                  > > 2- Transmission light comes on - car in limp mode- resets with
                                  > restart
                                  > > 3- Would like to either replace the oil cooler or remove it.
                                  > > 4- Would like to get a fob set up
                                  > > 5- Minor body rust and 1 small dent
                                  > > 6- Windshield is cracked (not in line of vision)
                                  > > Probably about 3000 for the tranny job, another 1000 for the cooler
                                  > > job, 200 for the fob, body work and paint maybe 1000, windshield
                                  > 1000?
                                  >
                                  > Where did your windshield start to crack? My passenger side corner
                                  > had some white residue that looked like there was milk spilled under
                                  > the glass. Then, later, that area started cracking in a circular
                                  > pattern. Eventually, a line crack formed and traveled halfway up the
                                  > glass. Very odd.
                                  >
                                • nzdurante
                                  All I know is that there s a ECM module that might have some influence on it but I m trying to find some more info on that. I have seen the modules for sale on
                                  Message 16 of 28 , Oct 3, 2008
                                    All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                    on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                    I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                    going to start guessing.

                                    --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jbeardjr@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Sup Guys!
                                    > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE;
                                    > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                    >
                                    > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally;what is
                                    > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                    > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                    >
                                    > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                    > not very appealing right now.
                                    >
                                    > Thanks!
                                    >
                                    > John
                                    >
                                    > --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                    > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                    > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                    > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                    > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                    > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                    > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                    > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                    > >
                                    >
                                  • jbeardjr@yahoo.com
                                    Guy, I feel ya,cuz if you start replacing stuff w/o knowing what wrong or having justifiable info,you will spend a mint and still ,maybe not solve the problem!
                                    Message 17 of 28 , Oct 3, 2008

                                      Guy, I feel ya,cuz if you start replacing stuff w/o knowing what wrong or having justifiable info,you will spend a mint and still ,maybe not solve the problem!

                                       

                                      I will continue my 'diagnostic' research; please let me/Us know what you come up with.

                                      BTW, today it did it again in  traffic;was slowing down in bumper to bumper,bout to re-accelerate,when it acted like it was jerked into gear real hard.

                                       

                                      Strange,truely strange...

                                       

                                      John



                                      ----- Original Message ----
                                      From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                      To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                      Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 6:13:49 PM
                                      Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                                      All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                      on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                      I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                      going to start guessing.

                                      --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "John" <jbeardjr@.. .> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Sup Guys!
                                      > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE;
                                      > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                      >
                                      > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally; what is
                                      > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                      > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                      >
                                      > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                      > not very appealing right now.
                                      >
                                      > Thanks!
                                      >
                                      > John
                                      >
                                      > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                      > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                      > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                      > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                      > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                      > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                      > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                      > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                      > >
                                      >


                                    • jbeardjr@yahoo.com
                                      Hey! Don t mean to sound pushy,but what leads you to believe that the tranny is slipping?? My experience has been that slipage occurs mostly from standing
                                      Message 18 of 28 , Oct 3, 2008
                                        Hey! Don't mean to sound pushy,but what leads you to believe that the tranny is slipping??
                                        My experience has been that slipage occurs mostly from standing starts,as though the car looses the ability to accelerate past a certain speed or gear, or you have to rev it excessively toger rollin'.
                                         
                                        John 

                                        ----- Original Message ----
                                        From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                        To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                        Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 6:13:49 PM
                                        Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                                        All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                        on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                        I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                        going to start guessing.

                                        --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "John" <jbeardjr@.. .> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > Sup Guys!
                                        > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE;
                                        > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                        >
                                        > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally; what is
                                        > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                        > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                        >
                                        > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                        > not very appealing right now.
                                        >
                                        > Thanks!
                                        >
                                        > John
                                        >
                                        > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                        > >
                                        > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                        > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                        > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                        > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                        > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                        > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                        > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                        > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                        > >
                                        >


                                      • nzdurante
                                        Well, when this problem first happened I had just come back off the highway into the city. I parked it and sat in it with the engine running for about 5
                                        Message 19 of 28 , Oct 4, 2008
                                          Well, when this problem first happened I had just come back off the
                                          highway into the city. I parked it and sat in it with the engine
                                          running for about 5 minutes. When I put it back in "drive" it just
                                          crawled, no matter how much gas I gave it. When I put it in 1st and
                                          gave it gas, it lurched forward. That is what made me think of
                                          slipping bands, although I am no expert. I continued driving to get
                                          home, by manually shifting from 1st to 2nd and 3rd. Later, thinking
                                          over this, it occurred to me that it ran okay after a re-start, so I
                                          was likely wrong on my first assumption and I am now leaning more
                                          towards a possible electronic control glitch. What that electronic
                                          control does or comes from I am not sure of (maybe the ECM). I have
                                          not had much time to dwell on this. My wife drove it for a week to
                                          errands around town with no problem, until we bought another car. The
                                          Cat has been parked ever since, and I now noticed a coolant leak in
                                          the rear area of the engine, possibly the HCV, but I haven't confirmed
                                          it yet. I do have a spare HCV, just no time to play around and with
                                          winter coming soon I don't know if I'll get to it before it's to cold
                                          to do anything about it. I am coming close to retirement and this may
                                          be a good project to sink my life savings into (kidding).

                                          --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, jbeardjr@... wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Hey! Don't mean to sound pushy,but what leads you to believe that
                                          the tranny is slipping??
                                          > My experience has been that slipage occurs mostly from standing
                                          starts,as though the car looses the ability to accelerate past a
                                          certain speed or gear, or you have to rev it excessively toger rollin'.
                                          >
                                          > John 
                                          >
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > ----- Original Message ----
                                          > From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                          > To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                          > Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 6:13:49 PM
                                          > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                          >
                                          >
                                          > All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                          > on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                          > I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                          > going to start guessing.
                                          >
                                          > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "John" <jbeardjr@ .> wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > Sup Guys!
                                          > > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE;
                                          > > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                          > >
                                          > > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally; what is
                                          > > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                          > > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                          > >
                                          > > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                          > > not very appealing right now.
                                          > >
                                          > > Thanks!
                                          > >
                                          > > John
                                          > >
                                          > > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                          > > >
                                          > > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                          > > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                          > > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                          > > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                          > > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                          > > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                          > > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                          > > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                          > > >
                                          > >
                                          >
                                        • nzdurante
                                          I just found the section in the manual that describes the general operation of the transmission. It s in section 7-181. I found it by flipping though the pages
                                          Message 20 of 28 , Oct 4, 2008
                                            I just found the section in the manual that describes the general
                                            operation of the transmission. It's in section 7-181. I found it by
                                            flipping though the pages of each book as I could not find any listing
                                            in the index. Anyhow the electronics that control the transmission are
                                            the TCM and the ECM. Both communicate via solenoids and sensors to
                                            make up for band slippage, worn clutch fiber plates and control
                                            shifting timing. Diagnostics are done through the use of a Scantool
                                            II. That means only a dealer or someone who has not only the scantool,
                                            but also the software that goes with it for this car can troubleshoot
                                            it. I couldn't even find a dealer who could program my FOB in this
                                            town, so..... move to Florida?
                                            Fudge!
                                            BTW the TCM is located behind the kick panel under the glove
                                            compartment, but again don't jump to conclusions.

                                            --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, jbeardjr@... wrote:
                                            >
                                            > Hey! Don't mean to sound pushy,but what leads you to believe that
                                            the tranny is slipping??
                                            > My experience has been that slipage occurs mostly from standing
                                            starts,as though the car looses the ability to accelerate past a
                                            certain speed or gear, or you have to rev it excessively toger rollin'.
                                            >
                                            > John 
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > ----- Original Message ----
                                            > From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                            > To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                            > Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 6:13:49 PM
                                            > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                            > on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                            > I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                            > going to start guessing.
                                            >
                                            > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "John" <jbeardjr@ .> wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > Sup Guys!
                                            > > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE;
                                            > > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                            > >
                                            > > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally; what is
                                            > > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                            > > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                            > >
                                            > > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                            > > not very appealing right now.
                                            > >
                                            > > Thanks!
                                            > >
                                            > > John
                                            > >
                                            > > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                            > > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                            > > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                            > > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                            > > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                            > > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                            > > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                            > > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                            > > >
                                            > >
                                            >
                                          • jbeardjr@yahoo.com
                                            Sup!   Retirement?Don t go there! Cars will be the end of me...got 2 Cateras (don t say it ,I know what you re thinkin),a mini van, 300 ZX (tranny woes, too),
                                            Message 21 of 28 , Oct 4, 2008

                                              Sup!

                                               

                                              Retirement?Don't go there! Cars will be the end of me...got 2 Cateras (don't say it ,I know what you're thinkin),a mini van, 300 ZX (tranny woes, too), and a '99Buick, also with trans issues.

                                               

                                              And NO, I'm not crazy, just with 4 driver household,and another within the next 6-12 months,cars are essential for school,college,job,and general Mom use.

                                               

                                              Some day, one day I'll get fed up and push them all in the ship channel...but then,what'd we drive?It'd cost a small fortune to replace everything, and upgrades or repairs would be out of the question.

                                               

                                              Your observations on trans behavior are spot on,and do point more to electronics than mechanical. My plan is to check for codes, record them and check where they lead;then clear them,and bring the car in if and when it goes 'limp home' again. Maybe that will get me on the right path via process of elimination.

                                               

                                              I appreciate you sharing your experiences,and hope one of us will come upon a solution.

                                               

                                              Thanks,

                                               

                                              John

                                               



                                              ----- Original Message ----
                                              From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                              To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                              Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2008 8:35:48 AM
                                              Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                                              Well, when this problem first happened I had just come back off the
                                              highway into the city. I parked it and sat in it with the engine
                                              running for about 5 minutes. When I put it back in "drive" it just
                                              crawled, no matter how much gas I gave it. When I put it in 1st and
                                              gave it gas, it lurched forward. That is what made me think of
                                              slipping bands, although I am no expert. I continued driving to get
                                              home, by manually shifting from 1st to 2nd and 3rd. Later, thinking
                                              over this, it occurred to me that it ran okay after a re-start, so I
                                              was likely wrong on my first assumption and I am now leaning more
                                              towards a possible electronic control glitch. What that electronic
                                              control does or comes from I am not sure of (maybe the ECM). I have
                                              not had much time to dwell on this. My wife drove it for a week to
                                              errands around town with no problem, until we bought another car. The
                                              Cat has been parked ever since, and I now noticed a coolant leak in
                                              the rear area of the engine, possibly the HCV, but I haven't confirmed
                                              it yet. I do have a spare HCV, just no time to play around and with
                                              winter coming soon I don't know if I'll get to it before it's to cold
                                              to do anything about it. I am coming close to retirement and this may
                                              be a good project to sink my life savings into (kidding).

                                              --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, jbeardjr@... wrote:
                                              >
                                              > Hey! Don't mean to sound pushy,but what leads you to believe that
                                              the tranny is slipping??
                                              > My experience has been that slipage occurs mostly from standing
                                              starts,as though the car looses the ability to accelerate past a
                                              certain speed or gear, or you have to rev it excessively toger rollin'.
                                              >
                                              > John 
                                              >
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > ----- Original Message ----
                                              > From: nzdurante <edurante@.. .>
                                              > To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                                              > Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 6:13:49 PM
                                              > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                              >
                                              >
                                              > All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                              > on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                              > I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                              > going to start guessing.
                                              >
                                              > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "John" <jbeardjr@ .> wrote:
                                              > >
                                              > > Sup Guys!
                                              > > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr. IKE;
                                              > > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                              > >
                                              > > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally; what is
                                              > > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                              > > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                              > >
                                              > > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                              > > not very appealing right now.
                                              > >
                                              > > Thanks!
                                              > >
                                              > > John
                                              > >
                                              > > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                              > > >
                                              > > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                              > > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                              > > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                              > > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                              > > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                              > > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                              > > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                              > > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                              > > >
                                              > >
                                              >


                                            • nzdurante
                                              In my case one vehicle sits in the garage, one behind it on the driveway. The other half of the driveway is occupied by my daughter s SUV (brand new piece of
                                              Message 22 of 28 , Oct 4, 2008
                                                In my case one vehicle sits in the garage, one behind it on the
                                                driveway. The other half of the driveway is occupied by my daughter's
                                                SUV (brand new piece of junk import).
                                                Today I took the Catera out for what I'd call a stress test. Worked
                                                perfectly. Go figure.
                                                I wanted to let you know, I own a generic OSB2 reader, no codes were
                                                picked up. Unless of course my reader doesn't get them all.

                                                --- In CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com, jbeardjr@... wrote:
                                                >
                                                > Sup!
                                                >  
                                                > Retirement?Don't go there! Cars will be the end of me...got 2
                                                Cateras (don't say it ,I know what you're thinkin),a mini van, 300 ZX
                                                (tranny woes, too), and a '99Buick, also with trans issues.
                                                >  
                                                > And NO, I'm not crazy, just with 4 driver household,and another
                                                within the next 6-12 months,cars are essential for
                                                school,college,job,and general Mom use.
                                                >  
                                                > Some day, one day I'll get fed up and push them all in the ship
                                                channel...but then,what'd we drive?It'd cost a small fortune to
                                                replace everything, and upgrades or repairs would be out of the question.
                                                >  
                                                > Your observations on trans behavior are spot on,and do point more to
                                                electronics than mechanical. My plan is to check for codes, record
                                                them and check where they lead;then clear them,and bring the car in if
                                                and when it goes 'limp home' again. Maybe that will get me on the
                                                right path via process of elimination.
                                                >  
                                                > I appreciate you sharing your experiences,and hope one of us will
                                                come upon a solution.
                                                >  
                                                > Thanks,
                                                >  
                                                > John
                                                >  
                                                >
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > ----- Original Message ----
                                                > From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                                > To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                                > Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2008 8:35:48 AM
                                                > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > Well, when this problem first happened I had just come back off the
                                                > highway into the city. I parked it and sat in it with the engine
                                                > running for about 5 minutes. When I put it back in "drive" it just
                                                > crawled, no matter how much gas I gave it. When I put it in 1st and
                                                > gave it gas, it lurched forward. That is what made me think of
                                                > slipping bands, although I am no expert. I continued driving to get
                                                > home, by manually shifting from 1st to 2nd and 3rd. Later, thinking
                                                > over this, it occurred to me that it ran okay after a re-start, so I
                                                > was likely wrong on my first assumption and I am now leaning more
                                                > towards a possible electronic control glitch. What that electronic
                                                > control does or comes from I am not sure of (maybe the ECM). I have
                                                > not had much time to dwell on this. My wife drove it for a week to
                                                > errands around town with no problem, until we bought another car. The
                                                > Cat has been parked ever since, and I now noticed a coolant leak in
                                                > the rear area of the engine, possibly the HCV, but I haven't confirmed
                                                > it yet. I do have a spare HCV, just no time to play around and with
                                                > winter coming soon I don't know if I'll get to it before it's to cold
                                                > to do anything about it. I am coming close to retirement and this may
                                                > be a good project to sink my life savings into (kidding).
                                                >
                                                > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, jbeardjr@ wrote:
                                                > >
                                                > > Hey! Don't mean to sound pushy,but what leads you to believe that
                                                > the tranny is slipping??
                                                > > My experience has been that slipage occurs mostly from standing
                                                > starts,as though the car looses the ability to accelerate past a
                                                > certain speed or gear, or you have to rev it excessively toger rollin'.
                                                > >
                                                > > John 
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > > ----- Original Message ----
                                                > > From: nzdurante <edurante@ .>
                                                > > To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                                                > > Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 6:13:49 PM
                                                > > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                                > >
                                                > >
                                                > > All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                                > > on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                                > > I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                                > > going to start guessing.
                                                > >
                                                > > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "John" <jbeardjr@ .> wrote:
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Sup Guys!
                                                > > > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr.
                                                IKE;
                                                > > > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                                > > >
                                                > > > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally;
                                                what is
                                                > > > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                                > > > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                                > > > not very appealing right now.
                                                > > >
                                                > > > Thanks!
                                                > > >
                                                > > > John
                                                > > >
                                                > > > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                                > > > >
                                                > > > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                                > > > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                                > > > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                                > > > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                                > > > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                                > > > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                                > > > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                                > > > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                                > > > >
                                                > > >
                                                > >
                                                >
                                              • jbeardjr@yahoo.com
                                                NZ, dig this;   My middle son s ZX tranny just started intermittently not shifting , would go away completely at a light, only to run upon restart after a
                                                Message 23 of 28 , Oct 4, 2008

                                                  NZ, dig this;

                                                   

                                                  My middle son's ZX tranny just started intermittently 'not shifting', would go away completely at a light, only to run upon restart after a few moments. And 2 other trannys have yielded the same results. Gonna try sumptin,jes don't know just what,yet.

                                                   

                                                  Today the Catera ran fine,no issues. My oldest has the other Catera,and he has an idler belt noise, alignment and water leak at rear of engine issues.Other wise,its all good (?).

                                                   

                                                  Hve a great weekend!

                                                   

                                                  John



                                                  ----- Original Message ----
                                                  From: nzdurante <edurante@...>
                                                  To: CateraOwners@yahoogroups.com
                                                  Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2008 9:03:39 PM
                                                  Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light

                                                  In my case one vehicle sits in the garage, one behind it on the
                                                  driveway. The other half of the driveway is occupied by my daughter's
                                                  SUV (brand new piece of junk import).
                                                  Today I took the Catera out for what I'd call a stress test. Worked
                                                  perfectly. Go figure.
                                                  I wanted to let you know, I own a generic OSB2 reader, no codes were
                                                  picked up. Unless of course my reader doesn't get them all.

                                                  --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, jbeardjr@... wrote:
                                                  >
                                                  > Sup!
                                                  >  
                                                  > Retirement?Don' t go there! Cars will be the end of me...got 2
                                                  Cateras (don't say it ,I know what you're thinkin),a mini van, 300 ZX
                                                  (tranny woes, too), and a '99Buick, also with trans issues.
                                                  >  
                                                  > And NO, I'm not crazy, just with 4 driver household,and another
                                                  within the next 6-12 months,cars are essential for
                                                  school,college, job,and general Mom use.
                                                  >  
                                                  > Some day, one day I'll get fed up and push them all in the ship
                                                  channel...but then,what'd we drive?It'd cost a small fortune to
                                                  replace everything, and upgrades or repairs would be out of the question.
                                                  >  
                                                  > Your observations on trans behavior are spot on,and do point more to
                                                  electronics than mechanical. My plan is to check for codes, record
                                                  them and check where they lead;then clear them,and bring the car in if
                                                  and when it goes 'limp home' again. Maybe that will get me on the
                                                  right path via process of elimination.
                                                  >  
                                                  > I appreciate you sharing your experiences, and hope one of us will
                                                  come upon a solution.
                                                  >  
                                                  > Thanks,
                                                  >  
                                                  > John
                                                  >  
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > ----- Original Message ----
                                                  > From: nzdurante <edurante@.. .>
                                                  > To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                                                  > Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2008 8:35:48 AM
                                                  > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                                  >
                                                  >
                                                  > Well, when this problem first happened I had just come back off the
                                                  > highway into the city. I parked it and sat in it with the engine
                                                  > running for about 5 minutes. When I put it back in "drive" it just
                                                  > crawled, no matter how much gas I gave it. When I put it in 1st and
                                                  > gave it gas, it lurched forward. That is what made me think of
                                                  > slipping bands, although I am no expert. I continued driving to get
                                                  > home, by manually shifting from 1st to 2nd and 3rd. Later, thinking
                                                  > over this, it occurred to me that it ran okay after a re-start, so I
                                                  > was likely wrong on my first assumption and I am now leaning more
                                                  > towards a possible electronic control glitch. What that electronic
                                                  > control does or comes from I am not sure of (maybe the ECM). I have
                                                  > not had much time to dwell on this. My wife drove it for a week to
                                                  > errands around town with no problem, until we bought another car. The
                                                  > Cat has been parked ever since, and I now noticed a coolant leak in
                                                  > the rear area of the engine, possibly the HCV, but I haven't confirmed
                                                  > it yet. I do have a spare HCV, just no time to play around and with
                                                  > winter coming soon I don't know if I'll get to it before it's to cold
                                                  > to do anything about it. I am coming close to retirement and this may
                                                  > be a good project to sink my life savings into (kidding).
                                                  >
                                                  > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, jbeardjr@ wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Hey! Don't mean to sound pushy,but what leads you to believe that
                                                  > the tranny is slipping??
                                                  > > My experience has been that slipage occurs mostly from standing
                                                  > starts,as though the car looses the ability to accelerate past a
                                                  > certain speed or gear, or you have to rev it excessively toger rollin'.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > John 
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > ----- Original Message ----
                                                  > > From: nzdurante <edurante@ .>
                                                  > > To: CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com
                                                  > > Sent: Friday, October 3, 2008 6:13:49 PM
                                                  > > Subject: [CateraOwners] Re: transmission light
                                                  > >
                                                  > >
                                                  > > All I know is that there's a ECM module that might have some influence
                                                  > > on it but I'm trying to find some more info on that.
                                                  > > I have seen the modules for sale on ebay for $ 145.00 but I'm not
                                                  > > going to start guessing.
                                                  > >
                                                  > > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "John" <jbeardjr@ .> wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Sup Guys!
                                                  > > > Hope you all are doing fine;am in S.E. TX recovering from Hurr.
                                                  IKE;
                                                  > > > no damage,just the inconvenience of shortages.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > I am experiencing the same tranny light problem occasionally;
                                                  what is
                                                  > > > the cause,and why does it go away with restart?
                                                  > > > Might it be an electronic/computer module glitch?
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Any leads or suggestions will be helpful,a new or rebuilt trans is
                                                  > > > not very appealing right now.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > Thanks!
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > John
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > --- In CateraOwners@ yahoogroups. com, "Tyrrell" <tyrrell01@> wrote:
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > > > I was coming home from work last night and car ran fine. I always
                                                  > > > put it into sport mode in city. After stopping for groceries I left
                                                  > > > the parking lot in sport mode and a few blocks later the light went
                                                  > > > out and the transmission light on the instrument cluster lit up and
                                                  > > > the sport mode light was off. Car also slowed until I manually put
                                                  > > > it in 3rd.gear. I could not put it back in sport mode so I guess it
                                                  > > > went into limp home mode.Any ideas? No other lights lit up other
                                                  > > > than the one on the instrument cluster.
                                                  > > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > >
                                                  >


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