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  • Dan Korn
    ... We have something like that in Chicago. There is a regular, free bus service that takes groups of people to a local destination, and these buses run at
    Message 1 of 2 , Aug 31 6:58 PM
      "Jennings" <e.jennings@...>:
      >Instead of having 500
      > people driving to a place or taking taxis, there could be organized buses
      > from various drop off points.

      We have something like that in Chicago. There is a regular, free bus
      service that takes groups of people to a local destination, and these buses
      run at all hours. This service is used heavily by retirees and others who
      don't have cars.

      But this isn't a service of the local public transportation system, the
      Chicago Transit Authority. It's a private service run by the casinos in
      Indiana, shuttling people back and forth from the city to gamble their
      meager savings away.

      A pyhrric victory at best for the car-free movement.

      Dan
    • De Clarke
      ... ouch! that s a painful irony. I had a somewhat related disappointment on Big Island (Hawai i) a few years ago when I saw what appeared to be a regular bus
      Message 2 of 2 , Sep 1, 2003
        Dan Korn (dkorn@...) wrote:
        > "Jennings" <e.jennings@...>:
        >
        > But this isn't a service of the local public transportation system, the
        > Chicago Transit Authority. It's a private service run by the casinos in
        > Indiana, shuttling people back and forth from the city to gamble their
        > meager savings away.

        ouch! that's a painful irony.

        I had a somewhat related disappointment on Big Island (Hawai'i) a few
        years ago when I saw what appeared to be a regular bus service working
        the Kona Coast, with fairly frequent headways and quite a lot of riders.
        I was impressed -- until finding out that these buses were privately run
        by the big hotels to bus in (and out again) their low-wage local labour.

        oh well.

        the real public transit on Big Island (the "Hele-on" iirc) was not bad 20
        years ago, but now offers very sparse service. last time I was there
        the island was full of SUVs... not just turistas renting 'em, but locals
        driving 'em as well. oh well again.

        was in SF for a day this weekend and as always it was a pleasure to ride
        a transit system that more or less works. for a buck (soon to go up to
        a buck and a quarter) you can ride all over the Muni for a couple of hours
        (any number of transfers) and for a buck and a half you can make a quick
        zap across the City by Bart. the new BART station at Millbrae is open
        for business, connecting the Caltrain to SF Airport and the rest of the
        BART system. once the Caltrain gets running normally again next spring
        (after track upgrades -- replacing all the old tarred wooden ties with
        cast concrete ones) service on the corridor will be pretty decent --
        lousy compared to Germany or France or Japan, of course, but pretty decent
        for the US. I sure wish all that American flag-waving patriotism and
        pride-of-country we've been hearing so much about lately, could be redirected
        from superior machinery for killing people, into superior machinery for
        moving people around efficiently and in comfort/safety. imagine if all
        the ego and pride of America were invested in the world's best intercity
        (and in-city) transit systems... what wonders we might see.

        I should note that in my little town where bus service is so-so, a day
        pass now costs $4.50. talk about motivating people not to use the metro!

        de

        PS
        I'm eagerly awaiting some more contributions to the "Post-Oil Future"
        theme :-) my own future scenario started with agricultural changes, so
        I'm having a couple of organic farming friends go over my ideas for a
        reality check before sharing them more widely...

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