- First of all, let me say that the title of John Ardelli's post is gramatically
ambiguous -- and I read it the wrong way at first.
I believe that automatic speed control is already used on some trains.
Presumably there is little difference as far as technology is concerned between
applying it on rail and road. The politics is of course different.
A couple of questions:
1. Should it be mandatory for all motorists to install such a system ? As a
compromise, it could be ruled that failure to install such a system could be
used as evidence against one if accused of speeding; also higher insurance rates
2. Should there be a manual override ? This might be useful in case of
emergency, but it would also be useful to a getaway criminal who had stolen
- On Jun 3, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Simon Norton wrote:
> First of all, let me say that the title of John Ardelli's post isI noticed that, too, but I didn't write it; my post was a reply to an
> gramatically ambiguous -- and I read it the wrong way at first.
EARLIER post. I just kept the original writer's subject line so they'd
recognize it. :)
> 1. Should it be mandatory for all motorists to install such a system ?Ideally, yes. Still:
> As a compromise, it could be ruled that failure to install such aI particularly like the idea about insurance rates. I work in a call
> system could be used as evidence against one if accused of speeding;
> also higher insurance rates might apply.
center in a program that reminds people about their upcoming insurance
renewals correcting grammar, spelling, punctuation etc. in requests
sent to the agents. From what I've seen of what the customers ask
their agents regularly, most people are just ITCHING for DISCOUNTS on
their premiums; if such a system would be good for a discount that
would DEFINITELY encourage people to install it. ;)
> 2. Should there be a manual override ?There is.
John A. Ardelli
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Simon Norton wrote:
> > 2. Should there be a manual override ? This might be useful in
> case of
> > emergency, but it would also be useful to a getaway criminal who
> had stolen
> > one's car.
On Jun 15, 2009, at 6:48 PM, John Mayson wrote:
> What emergency would warrant allowing people to operate their
> vehicle at
> unsafe speeds? Even emergency vehicles are expected to obey traffic
> Would someone's four year-old having a high fever be enough to allow
> to drive like a bat out of hell?
One option would be to have a manual override that automatically sends
a radio message on the police channel. This would allow the police
forces to assist in dealing with the emergency, but there could also
be appropriate penalties for misuse, as each act of speeding would be
Bart Hawkins Kreps
Port Hope, Ontario
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- On 15-Jun-09, at 7:48 PM, John Mayson wrote:
> Even emergency vehicles are expected to obey traffic laws.Only when operating as ordinary vehicles with their beacons/sirens
off. Once those beacons and sirens are on, however, they have the
right to "push" their way through traffic, traffic signals and signs
notwithstanding. Now that doesn't mean they just barrel ahead. What
it means is, if they come to a red light, stop sign etc., they give
audible warning with their horns that they're coming and traffic is
expected to stop to allow them through; once the way is clear, THEN
John A. Ardelli