Re: [CF] Re: Moderation
- On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:23:29 -0800, ensignaurora <tappants@...>
> --- In CarFree@yahoogroups.com, "willtell9z" <willtell9z@...> wrote:For once I agree with Traci. We don't need another Big Brother telling us
>> --- In CarFree@yahoogroups.com, Simon Baddeley <s.j.baddeley@>
>> >... Come on moderator.
>> > S
>> I wonder if a more on-hands style of moderation is preferable?
>> As a matter of interest the moderator of another list I read
>> (Carfee_Cities) reminded his members as follows:-
>> >Do not post more than once a day unless there is
>> >some pressing reason. (The moderators may violate
>> >this rule with caution.)
>> >Be ready to take discussions private, off list....
>> >The list owner is very busy and will simply cancel,
>> >without warning, the membership of any member whose
>> >posts are disruptive to the purpose of the group.
>> >Reasonable people will not fall afoul of this provision.
>> >Initial posts will be moderated and rejected if they
>> >do not maintain the standards of the group.
> Well, two things to that. First of all, I don't believe in taking
> discussions private. If they go private, they should be dropped. Had a
> few too many private meetings where one gets stabbed in the back and
> therefore, I don't like them.
> Secondly, and more importantly, though. What's disruptive? Is
> disruptive just having an opinion that is counter to the main group?
> Start dropping people for that and carfree is just another list with
> delusions of godhood. Is disruptive answering the question of another
> person? I've been critisized for responding to the post of "what makes
> me tick" but after all, I was asked to do so.
> Look, it's a controversal subject. From time to time, things will get
> a little heated. It goes with the terriotory.
what we can hear or say. We have enough of those already.
Lorenzo L. Love
"I am opposed to censorship. Censors are pretty sure fools. I have no
confidence in the suppression of everyday facts."
>> First of all, I don't believe in taking discussions=v= This is a problematic stance, particularly for one who
>> private. If they go private, they should be dropped.
inundates this list with kilobytes of stuff that's entirely
off-topic. Even to on-topic messages, one might have an
off-topic response, which is itself a very good reason for
off-list ("private") messages.
>> Look, it's a controversal subject. From time to time, things=v= That's not the issue. The issue is that it's off-topic.
>> will get a little heated. It goes with the terriotory.
450 people subscribed to this list to talk about something
else. That soemthing else has been posted to the list recently
(and sent to you privately), but just in case you missed it:
That's the "territory" we signed up for. Not guns. Not the
minutiae of an oversharing individual. We subscribed to talk
about reducing/eliminating car use and analyzing/celebrating
alternatives to the car.
> We don't need another Big Brother telling us what we can=v= Not the issue either. There's no shortage of fora where
> hear or say. We have enough of those already.
that subject matter is on-topic. Nobody's stopping you or
anyone from particpating in such fora. And, while it's not
a "Big Brother" thing, excessive off-topic posting has its
own chilling effect by prompting people to unsubscribe.
- --- In CarFree@yahoogroups.com, Jym Dyer <jym@...> wrote:
> else. That soemthing else has been posted to the list recentlyMessage ignored. I told you that if you want to talk to me, you talk
> (and sent to you privately), but just in case you missed it:
> That's the "territory" we signed up for. Not guns. Not the
> minutiae of an oversharing individual. We subscribed to talk
> about reducing/eliminating car use and analyzing/celebrating
> alternatives to the car.
in public. I will not take any messages in private.
Secondly, while the gun issue was without resolution among limited
parties, the current infrastructure would seem, IMHO, to have given it
some purpose on this list, so we are sort of at a moot point.
Thirdly, I said nothing about Big Brother. Who did? If it was a
comment about "delusions of godhood", then I will expand slightly on that.
("Would you gentlemen leave us alone for a minute?"--Bob Blair
"No, don't you leave, stay with me, don't leave us alone at all."--The
President, (wtte), "Dreamscape")