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Re: [CF] Digest Number 1456

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  • william stewart
    ... Do you have figures to support your claim? What costs are you counting? What kind of vehicle? For autos/minivans/SUVs, expect base costs anywhere from $.38
    Message 1 of 1 , Jul 31, 2004
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      Steven Schoeffler wrote:

      >>>Long distance transportation is one area where cars are
      >>>appropriate.
      >>>
      >>>
      >>=v= Not in terms of resources required and pollution emitted.
      >>Only planes are worse than cars in this regard. Well-managed
      >>rail is a much better choice. Even poorly-managed rail (which
      >>prevails in the U.S.) does substantially better.
      >> <_Jym_>
      >>
      >
      > Care to elaborate? Better in what terms? Not cost per passenger mile....
      >
      >Steve
      >
      Do you have figures to support your claim? What costs are you counting?
      What kind of vehicle?

      For autos/minivans/SUVs, expect base costs anywhere from $.38 to $.75,
      depending on mileage and type of vehicle. This does not include
      acquisition of land for roadways, construction of roadways, maintenance
      of roadways, policing and rescue operations, etc.
      http://www.nctr.usf.edu/clearinghouse/costtodrive.htm

      Then add in hidden costs. http://www.preservenet.com/ATAutoWelfare.html

      OTOH, there are also wide ranges of figures for buses and trains.

      Heavy rail can cost approximately $.29 per passenger mile.
      http://www.mn-getonboard.com/questions_mythfact.cfm

      *COMMUTER COST COMPARISON* (30-mile trip from Elk River to Minneapolis,
      based on information from AAA.)

      Northstar: (fare cost) $4-6 per trip (.13 cents per mile)

      Private car: $14.40 per trip (.48 cents per mile)

      Light rail can vary from $.17 to $.86 per passerger mile.
      http://www.lightrailnow.org/facts/fa_lrt02.htm

      Will Stewart
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