561Re: Shower at workplace
- Feb 18 7:58 AMDear Corey
CAn you pull the "how much does it cost to provide a parking
space for the car I won't use?" line? In the UK, these are costed at
$3000 each. Otherwise, health and safety - what if you get
contaminated at work? Last resort - do pull rank - it is sometimes
the only way and what is a heirarchical system for...
Good luck - I failed here in the UK to get a shower in ou new
building so I take the train to work with the bike and ride home.
To: firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com, commute-logistics@...
Date sent: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:23:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Corey Dyck <corey_dyck@...>
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Subject: [CarFree] Shower at workplace
> From: Corey Dyck <corey_dyck@...>
> Hi, sorry about the crosspost, but I figured there would be no better way
> to get a lot of info and opinions than to involve a number of parties.
> I've been a lurker on these three lists (chainguard, car-free, and
> commute-logistics) for a while now, and I figure you can help me out in my
> I'm a production engineer for a small (20 employees) medical manufacturing
> company in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Currently, I'm in the process of
> setting the details for our new 5000 square foot production facility in
> the south end of the city. I, being a regular bike commuter, have made a
> request for a single shower to be put in one of the two stand-alone
> This request was initially greeted with enthusiasm, but the building
> owners have suggested to our operations manager that we would require
> changing and locker rooms if the shower were placed in the building. Our
> operations manager has since decided that in no way can we have a shower
> stall in our facility. It has suddenly become a very tense subject, with
> very blunt "No shower!" and "There is ample vehicle parking space" replies
> to any questions I ask.
> The questions I have are:
> -Am I just wasting my breath? Is this a reasonable request?
> -Is there any way I can convince him that a shower will be beneficial to
> all employees? He is a cyclist himself, but definitely not a
> transportational cyclist (new term?).
> -What arguments (building standards, common trends among other companies)
> can I utilize to promote this addition? We have yet to build the
> bathrooms and pour the cement, so it will be very easy to modify the plans
> at this point. It will be difficult and expensive to add later.
> -The V.P. of the company thinks it is a great idea to put a shower in our
> facility, but I don't want to pull rank on anybody. Would it be
> reasonable to get him to step in? He is not moving with us,
> Some other random background info that might help;
> -we use various glues in small amounts, enough to require two eyewash
> -there is a paint spraying process that one worker is exposed to
> -I am currently the only cyclist riding to work (and the first for this
> -my commute would be approximately 11 km (7 miles)
> -there is bus service (approx. 1-hour ride, sporadic service) with a
> fifteen minute walk
> -I'm usually working in an office setting
> -the president is a physiotherapist who would probably encourage employees
> riding to work (same pulling rank problem?)
> Do you have any suggestions for dealing with this situation? Has anyone
> you know gone through this same process?
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer,
> Corey Dyck
> Desperately trying to stay car-free in Winnipeg, MB
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