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Re: [CalontirDance] Website with lots of well engraved music. Oops URL misquoted.

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  • Christian M. Cepel
    Ack. This whole discussion was a mistake on my part. Sorry. First of all, the website should have been http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Hendricks/ instead of
    Message 1 of 11 , Nov 7, 2005
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      Ack. This whole discussion was a mistake on my part. Sorry.

      First of all, the website should have been
      http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Hendricks/ instead of
      http://sca.waterloo.ca/Hendricks/ (note the 'u' in uwaterloo).

      And either a) it's been fixed since I first sent out this note, or b) I
      misread it and started the discussion on HITW based on my own mistake.

      Either way, it does indeed say Playford 2, 1698 on that site now.

      *embarrassed look*

      My apologies.

      Still, it does seem a treasure trove.

      Thanks to all.

      Stewart, Sara wrote:
      > Purcell's hornpipe is the same tune and was written in the 1690s.
      > I believe I have a copy of Playford 1 if you would like to see it.
      > Seonaid
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christian M. Cepel
      > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:47 PM
      > To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [CalontirDance] Website with lots of well engraved music.
      >
      >
      > So does this guy have it wrong? His site says Hole in the Wall -
      > Playford 1 - 1651?
      >
      > Could he be instead referring to Purcell's "Hornpipe" which the music
      > from Lilies XIV Ball states it's a 6/8 variant of? This guy's is in
      > 3/4, but looks very similar from a quick glance.
      >
      > On the top of that same Lilies Ball page it does say Playford(1698).
      > How should I resolve the discrepancy?
      >
      > Thanks.
      >
      > I guess that I just hate that one of the few songs I know how to play
      > and play well, and enjoy playing and ornamenting is out on its
      > collective ear, with a bootprint on to boot.
      >
      > //Philippe Sebastian LeLutre
      >
      > Stewart, Sara wrote:
      >
      >>I am sorry I meant the music for Hole in the Wall was composed in
      >
      > 1695.
      >
      >>Good questions though
      >>Seonaid
      >>
      >>
      >>-----Original Message-----
      >>From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
      >>[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stewart, Sara
      >>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:34 PM
      >>To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
      >>Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Website with lots of well engraved music.
      >>
      >>Hey
      >>The dance for Hole in the Wall is from 1698 which I believe is
      >>Playford 3. We tend to try and do dances from Playford 1 (1651) The
      >>music was composed in 1695.
      >>Sellinger's Round by the way is from Playford 2. I do not know about
      >>trenchmore, but all the other's you listed are Playford 1, I think.
      >>I would not agree that Scotland the Brave is still hugged close.
      >>
      >>Seonaid
      >>
      >>-----Original Message-----
      >>From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
      >>[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Christian M. Cepel
      >>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:30 PM
      >>To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
      >>Subject: [CalontirDance] Website with lots of well engraved music.
      >>
      >>I expect folks already know of this, but if not, it seems a treasure
      >>trove to me. Looks to be notated in Finale to me.
      >>
      >>http://sca.waterloo.ca/Hendricks/
      >>
      >>This leads me to a question I've been having for a while. Why has
      >>such a wonderful (if overly requested) tune such as Hole in the Wall
      >>been ostracized so horribly, when other tunes from the same Playford
      >>Dances and Ballads ~ 1651 are fair game... I.e., Heart's Ease, Black
      >>nag, Jenny Pluck Pears, Nonesuch, Parson's Farewell (I think),
      >>Gathering Peascods (I think), Rufty Tufty, Sellenger's Round,
      >>Trenchmore to name all the ones I recognize from that list.
      >>
      >>Is it because there are earlier sources for all these works other than
      >
      >
      >>Hole in the Wall, than the 1651 Playford?
      >>
      >>I don't understand.
      >>
      >>I also don't understand why Scotland the Brave, a slightly campy tune
      >>from 1891-5 is still hugged close while Hole in the Wall is beaten off
      >
      >
      >>with a stick and the dogs are set on it.
      >>
      >>Thanks for any elucidation!
      >>
      >>
      >
      >

      --
      //Christian

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