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771Re: [CalontirBards] What's the story on Al Cafrin - How much arranging makes a new arrangement? - Sent to wrong list

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  • Christian M. Cepel
    Feb 8, 2007
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      Subject: Re: [CalontirBards] What's the story on Al Cafrin - How much
      arranging makes a new arrangement?
      Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:38:56 -0600
      From: Christian M. Cepel <christian@...>
      Reply-To: CalontirBards@yahoogroups.com
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      Thank you. Very complete answer. So I'm partially right and partially
      wrong. It also means that I need to get CrystalBall23 pdf off the
      stone's music site asap. Ok. Done. Sorry to Conna and Al.

      I'm curious about those files I mentioned that are under the name of
      another but that stylistically look identical to the layout used by Al
      Cafrin's music. What's the deal there.

      Also, on the Calontir Camerata group, someone suggested I use this copy
      instead with this comment

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      http://members.cox.net/calonkat/Lilies2004/ has Geoffrey of Exeter's
      transcription, which included a newly written descant line. As well as
      some links for dance music if you want to find more, that would
      definitely be free for distribution in the SCA.

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      I mailed back last night the following, and I'd like to hear opinions here as well.

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      I'm having a little difficulty with the Geoffrey of Exeter
      transcription. If the Cofrin transcription is indeed legally
      copyrighted, then I don't think changing one note in 11th and 12th
      measures of the second voice, and keeping every note of the other three
      voices exactly the same would in any way be legal grounds for claiming
      that Cofrin's copyright did not apply and that it could as you say be
      free for distribution in the SCA. Maybe someone else knows musical
      copyright law better than I do, but I think this is real shaky. The
      descant line could of course copyrighted and rights extended to the SCA.

      I very much like the descant line btw.... Stylistically would it be
      considered a match for the period? I'm not asking because I have
      doubts, but rather because I do not know. I had the embarrassing
      experience of saying how much I liked Duchess Rondallynn's Pavanne (
      Implied in that is how I thought it sounded 'medieval' ) only to be told
      that it was a Mannheim Steamroller (or was it Allen Parson's Project)...
      anyways, completely modern.

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      Any opinions? I'm a little confused about the second hand thing. I
      thought Mistress Conna was on this list?

      Fvigil@... wrote:
      >
      >
      > Conna indicates that she uses his arrangements because she thinks
      > they are better than the others available, and because she (and a
      > few other folks) have his specific permission to use them in their
      > music pits.
      >
      > She has permission to e-mail them privately to people who request
      > them from her, so that they can practice for each ball, and she
      > only sends them to people who tell her they will be there. But
      > those people do not have permission to use them for other things
      > without purchasing his book. (available at:
      > http://www.istanpitta.com/i_009.htm)
      >
      > He specifically does not make them available online. And he denied
      > permission for them to be used at balls when the organizer
      > wanted put downloadable pdfs on the web.
      >
      > Conna also notes that she makes a point of telling the musicians
      > in her pits that these arrangements are available in Avatar's
      > Early Dances book, and that they should buy one if they can.
      >
      > Hope this clarifies things,
      >
      > Fernando
      >
      >

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      Computer Support Specialist, Sr. - University of Missouri - Columbia
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      Christian M. Cepel - Thistledowne Productions - http://thistledowne.org
      Computer Support Specialist, Sr. - University of Missouri - Columbia
      College of Education - School of Info Science & Learning Technologies
      VRCbd, KidTools & StrategyTools Support Systems Projects, and Truman,
      Library Whistlestop Project - Web Design & Programming - 573.999.2370



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