## 1055RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

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• May 22, 2008
Thanks for the explanations so far. I'm trying to get the steps to work out with where I think it should end in the music, but keep coming up short. And the stuff online that I'm finding is not being very helpful. I think I'm looking at stuff that is too scholarly when what I need is someone that says "a single is a step-close." I will keep practicing it and see if I can get a speed that matches the music. That is always the hardest part about this for me. I learn the steps alone and then have to fit them to the music. :-)

Thanks again,
Sara Sophia

To: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com
From: sauerm@...
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:00:26 -0500
Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Hi

OK this is a bit of an oddball dance

Simple Explanation

Singles are simple step left and close with the right, step right close

with the left.

A double would be a left, right, left and close (or turn in this dance)

While the single, single, double has the same pattern as a pavane, it's

much more upbeat

As for timing that's trickier. If the music is 4/4 then a single is 2

beats or 1/2 measure.

While a double is 4 beats or 1 full measure. This will vary if the

signature is different.

One tricky thing about the music for this dance is that the last phrase

(the step out, step in, turn)

sounds very much like the first part (the single, single, double),

resist the temptation to start

the next repeat here.

Fuller explanation (ignore if you want)

The Greesly series of dances (which this is one) have been described as

English dances with 'Italian like' steps

They are not English Country Dances.

With this in mind there's more freedom to style the steps. The main

difference is that Italian steps don't

close the trailing foot in a series of like steps. Italian singles are

more like step left, pause; full step with right, pause

Etc. And a double as left, right, left, pause (the 1 beat for the pause

is when the turns to face are done).

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From: CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:CalontirDance@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lady Sara Sophia von

Kolmar

Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:17 AM

To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

Since I accidentally sent this to the list and not to Tsire privately, I

would be grateful to anyone who can help me with this. :-)

Sara Sophia - who apparently needs more coffee ;-)

> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

> From: sarasophiavonkolmar@...

> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:09:38 -0500

> Subject: [CalontirDance] Ly Bens help

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> Tsire,

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> Hello there. How are you?

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> Yes, I am waiting until the last moment to get this together. We have

dance tonight. :-) But if it wasn't for the last minute, nothing would

get done. :-D

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> What are the doubles and singles you mention here? Are singles one

step to one beat? Are doubles two steps to one beat? Are they like the

pavane step - single=step, together and double=step, step, together?

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> Thank you for your help,

> Sara Sophia

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> To: calontirdance@yahoogroups.com

> From: tsire@...

> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:46:19 -0500

> Subject: RE: [CalontirDance] YAY DANCE!!

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> Ly Bens Dystonis (English 1400's)

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> Single, Single, Double

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> Lord Forward a Double as Lady Back a Double

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> (Take Hands) Step away from you partner, Step toward your partner

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> Turn out (Lord Counterclockwise, Lady Clockwise)

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> It's fun to think of this dance as a tumultuous relationship.

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> You start out walking together, move apart, come together, move apart,

come together, connect, struggle out then in, spurn one another and

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