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Re: [CRN-L] Removing PICC line

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  • Joann Kergides
    It falls under an E&M service
    Message 1 of 8 , Oct 1, 2004
      It falls under an E&M service

      59Kathryn Broadus wrote:

      > It was non-tunnelled. Thanks for the help!!
      >
      > Kathryn
      >
      > From: EricaDSchwalm@...
      > Subject: Re: Removing PICC line
      >
      > Hi Kathryn,
      >
      > Did you get an answer on this yet? I'll have to get back to you when I have
      > my CPT book tomorrow. In the meantime, can you find out if the line was
      > tunneled or non-tunneled?
      >
      > Erica
      >
      > In a message dated 9/28/04 5:40:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
      > kathrynbroadus@... writes:
      >
      > >Need some help!! One of my doc's recently removed a PICC line that we did
      > >not put in. I don't have a clue how to code this. Would appreciate any
      > >and
      > >
      > >all suggestions.
      > >
      > >Kathryn Broadus, CPC-A
      >
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    • Kristin Simpson
      I posted a similar question regarding a pig tail catheter was given the code range of 37201-37209 as a possible coding solution. My doctor was called in
      Message 2 of 8 , Oct 1, 2004
        I posted a similar question regarding a pig tail catheter was given the
        code range of 37201-37209 as a possible coding solution. My doctor was
        called in because the surgeon was unable to remove the catheter. Her
        services were medically necessary and the patient was taken to OR since
        he'd already suffered the attempted removal, they decided to anesthetize
        him. This made it a procedure not an E&M. Look at 37203 as a possible
        choice, I'm not sure if it's appropriate, I don't know all of the details
        behind why your doc removed the PICC, but at least check out these codes.

        The other option I strongly considered was an unlisted code. Again, my doc
        was called in and took the patient to OR, so in my sistuation E&M was
        inappropriate.

        I don't know if this will be any help or not....

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        > [Original Message]
        > From: Joann Kergides <kergidjf@...>
        > To: <CRN-L@yahoogroups.com>
        > Date: 10/1/2004 4:48:13 AM
        > Subject: Re: [CRN-L] Removing PICC line
        >
        > It falls under an E&M service
        >
        > 59Kathryn Broadus wrote:
        >
        > > It was non-tunnelled. Thanks for the help!!
        > >
        > > Kathryn
        > >
        > > From: EricaDSchwalm@...
        > > Subject: Re: Removing PICC line
        > >
        > > Hi Kathryn,
        > >
        > > Did you get an answer on this yet? I'll have to get back to you when I
        have
        > > my CPT book tomorrow. In the meantime, can you find out if the line was
        > > tunneled or non-tunneled?
        > >
        > > Erica
        > >
        > > In a message dated 9/28/04 5:40:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
        > > kathrynbroadus@... writes:
        > >
        > > >Need some help!! One of my doc's recently removed a PICC line that we
        did
        > > >not put in. I don't have a clue how to code this. Would appreciate
        any
        > > >and
        > > >
        > > >all suggestions.
        > > >
        > > >Kathryn Broadus, CPC-A
        > >
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      • EricaDSchwalm@aol.com
        HI Kathryn, Sorry it took me so long to get back to you..... Currently we are coding removal of non-tunneled catheters as 37799 (unlisted code). I do not
        Message 3 of 8 , Oct 1, 2004
          HI Kathryn,

          Sorry it took me so long to get back to you..... Currently we are coding
          removal of non-tunneled catheters as 37799 (unlisted code). I do not know at
          this point if they are getting paid or not.... I will track this and see what
          happens..... I have no written info on this subject. I know that if it is
          tunneled the code for removal is is 36589. I'm behind on my e-mail, so if there's
          been a definitive answer on this, I apologize..... At this point, I am not
          aware of anything that says we can't bill for this.... If anyone has any other
          info, please let us know...... I will start to track these from now on and
          let you all know what I find....

          Thanks,
          Erica


          In a message dated 9/30/04 5:57:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
          kathrynbroadus@... writes:


          > It was non-tunnelled. Thanks for the help!!
          >
          > Kathryn
          >
          > From: EricaDSchwalm@...
          > Subject: Re: Removing PICC line
          >
          > Hi Kathryn,
          >
          > Did you get an answer on this yet? I'll have to get back to you when I have
          > my CPT book tomorrow. In the meantime, can you find out if the line was
          > tunneled or non-tunneled?
          >
          > Erica
          >
          > In a message dated 9/28/04 5:40:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
          > kathrynbroadus@... writes:
          >
          >
          > >Need some help!! One of my doc's recently removed a PICC line that we did
          > >not put in. I don't have a clue how to code this. Would appreciate any
          > >and
          > >
          > >all suggestions.
          > >
          > >Kathryn Broadus, CPC-A
          >



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