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Re: [SDBIRDS] Booby frenzy

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  • Cathleen
    WHOOPS! sorry Doug. I only asked if there was a code (I said I think ). I don t belong and I guess I will do some more research if I ever think of
    Message 1 of 3 , Jan 4, 2002
      WHOOPS! sorry Doug. I only asked if there was a 'code' (I said 'I think').
      I don't belong and I guess I will do some more research if I ever think of
      becoming a member!

      I usually don't post much but after reading the previous emails on the Booby
      subject it did sound like a couple of people had crossed over. I have had
      people step in my line of sight (I am sure I have done that also) and get
      too close and scare the bird away, etc. Like I said, during the excitement
      it is easy to forget.

      I agree with your 'ethics' but I do agree with Bob also. Some people might
      do things while not realizing it. I am guilty. For example - when all
      those great birds were at Ft. Rosecrans this past Fall someone posted that
      the cars were not supposed to be parked in a specific area on the inside
      road and we were not aware of that and had been parking there.

      No big deal tho - and thanks for letting me know how you feel about the ABA!
      I wasn't aware of their past.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Douglas Aguillard" <doug@...>
      To: "Cathleen" <csharpe@...>; <SDBIRDS@yahoogroups.com>
      Cc: <Calbirds@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:45 PM
      Subject: Re: [SDBIRDS] Booby frenzy

      > I don't know what happen today, and for people to be getting 10 feet from
      > the bird does sound very close, but yesterday, the photographers
      > me) stayed back, and the bird sat on the rock for over 2 hours. It was
      > worried about the gulls, than it was about the people. The signs were put
      > up to stop the kids from jumping off "the clam" and killing themselves,
      > yesterday, many lifeguards passed by and never said a word to any of us
      > (including the tourists). You also do not have to "go over the rails" as
      > Bob suggested, to get onto the rocks, you can simply walk to them from the
      > end of the walkway.
      > As for the American Birding Associations "Code of Ethics", this is an old
      > debate........First of all, I guess you have to be a member of the ABA to
      > CARE about their "So-called Ethics", that they follow, only from time to
      > time when it suits them. Also ethics are very vague as it depends on what
      > your morals are. My morals and ethics are this. Don't do anything that
      > would injure or kill the bird, take only photos, leave only footprints.
      > Doug Aguillard
      > (Quit the ABA- when they went back on their ethics time & time again)
      > San Diego, CA
      > doug@...
      > At 08:34 PM 1/4/2002 -0800, Cathleen wrote:
      > >Bob:
      > >
      > >Couldn't agree more! Isn't there a 'code of ethics' for birders (ABA I
      > >think)? I have read (more than once) that some birders forget the 'code'
      > >in their excitement during rare sightings (going on private property
      > >permission, etc.). Good reminder - thanks!
      > >
      > >The Sharpes
      > >San Diego, CA
      > >csharpe@...
    • Cathleen
      We are Green Republicans also :-) ... From: Douglas Aguillard To: Cathleen Cc: Sent:
      Message 2 of 3 , Jan 5, 2002
        We are Green Republicans also :-)

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Douglas Aguillard" <doug@...>
        To: "Cathleen" <csharpe@...>
        Cc: <Calbirds@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 9:41 AM
        Subject: Re: [SDBIRDS] Booby frenzy

        > Sorry, I wasn't meaning to attack you. After seeing Bob's posting , I was
        > waiting for the ABA thing to come up.
        > The ABA is a good organization overall, but they have had their problems,
        > and I got tired of them pushing their "Code of Ethics", when their own
        > director didn't follow them.
        > I honestly can't stand people trying to enforce their own sense of morality
        > on everyone. I tend to be very conservative on alot of stuff, especially
        > when it concerns my kids, but very liberal when it comes to other things.
        > I'm a tree-hugging Republican (oxymoron here!)
        > Doug

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