Re: [Buddhism_101] Vegetarianism/Nonsense.
There's no reason for you to apologize for your "test" of this group.
Everything, every question we are asked, can be understood as a test.
Someone might offer me a hundred dollars to do something, perhaps
trivially illegal, perhaps mildly unethical. Is it a test, perhaps the
police or mafia seeking to entrap me? Or is the offer genuine and so a
really nice, quick way to make a hundred bucks? Do we seek to find out
whether it is entrapment, a test? No. We do (or say) what we believe
is best. Whether it is a test or not doesn't matter. If I'm walking
down the sidewalk eating an apple and a truck goes by spurting grit
which seconds later I can see on the flesh of my apple, is this a test.
Most likely not. But, yes, we could see it this way. Everything can
be a test. But nothing need be a test.
And, Jeremy, are you saying that you don't believe in rebirth or
afterlife? Or are you saying that you believe that they can't be possible?
On 03/03/2007 09:20 AM somebody named Jeremy wrote:
> Interesting. I was very surprised at the responses.
> In regards to the answers regarding my question about vegetarianism, I
> was absolutely amazed by the wonderful responses.
> If any of you read my last topic, you will note that some were
> offended by my use of the word "nonsense" to describe my impression of
> parts of buddhist belief. I was speaking in particular about the kind
> of 'afterlife', or rebirth concepts.
> Firstly in regards to the term nonsense, I found it interesting to see
> that one respondent was upset enough to remark but not answer my
> question in any way. I would say that if the use of one word,
> admittedly used in a deliberately challenging way, upsets your
> equilibrium to any significant degree, then you would probably need to
> consider whether your relationship to buddhism is one of worship or
> philosophical understanding and thinking. To explain further, I
> always have concern in such cases that the person's attachment to
> their philosophy or religion is overly emotional, or based perhaps on
> some willingness/desire to belong. An analogy might be the way a
> football fan might get angry at criticism of their teams performance
> or coach. Another possibility is that a person is caught up in some
> salvation seeking pursuit, or perhaps that they desire or tend
> unknowingly to elevate themselves on the platform of their belief, to
> the point that questions or challenges are taken to heart.
> I want to look into this further. One thing that I have always tried
> to do is to see any disagreement or challenge as merely a challenge.
> Not just to overcome, but to maintain equilibrium, composure, and
> dignity while doing so. I would have to say that the vast majority of
> people who responded were so kind and thorough... I am grateful.
> I think if you read between the lines it should be clear what I think
> about any distress caused by my use of the word 'nonsense'.
> Nevertheless, I apologise for deliberately testing the waters using an
> underhanded method!!! Thanks. I look forward to reading more about
> what buddhism means to you.
"Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its
possessors into trouble of all kinds."
-- Samuel Butler