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Re: [Buddhism_101] Vegetarianism/Nonsense.

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  • ken
    Jeremy, There s no reason for you to apologize for your test of this group. Everything, every question we are asked, can be understood as a test. Someone
    Message 1 of 4 , Mar 3, 2007

      There's no reason for you to apologize for your "test" of this group.
      Everything, every question we are asked, can be understood as a test.
      Someone might offer me a hundred dollars to do something, perhaps
      trivially illegal, perhaps mildly unethical. Is it a test, perhaps the
      police or mafia seeking to entrap me? Or is the offer genuine and so a
      really nice, quick way to make a hundred bucks? Do we seek to find out
      whether it is entrapment, a test? No. We do (or say) what we believe
      is best. Whether it is a test or not doesn't matter. If I'm walking
      down the sidewalk eating an apple and a truck goes by spurting grit
      which seconds later I can see on the flesh of my apple, is this a test.
      Most likely not. But, yes, we could see it this way. Everything can
      be a test. But nothing need be a test.

      And, Jeremy, are you saying that you don't believe in rebirth or
      afterlife? Or are you saying that you believe that they can't be possible?

      On 03/03/2007 09:20 AM somebody named Jeremy wrote:
      > Interesting. I was very surprised at the responses.
      > In regards to the answers regarding my question about vegetarianism, I
      > was absolutely amazed by the wonderful responses.
      > If any of you read my last topic, you will note that some were
      > offended by my use of the word "nonsense" to describe my impression of
      > parts of buddhist belief. I was speaking in particular about the kind
      > of 'afterlife', or rebirth concepts.
      > Firstly in regards to the term nonsense, I found it interesting to see
      > that one respondent was upset enough to remark but not answer my
      > question in any way. I would say that if the use of one word,
      > admittedly used in a deliberately challenging way, upsets your
      > equilibrium to any significant degree, then you would probably need to
      > consider whether your relationship to buddhism is one of worship or
      > philosophical understanding and thinking. To explain further, I
      > always have concern in such cases that the person's attachment to
      > their philosophy or religion is overly emotional, or based perhaps on
      > some willingness/desire to belong. An analogy might be the way a
      > football fan might get angry at criticism of their teams performance
      > or coach. Another possibility is that a person is caught up in some
      > salvation seeking pursuit, or perhaps that they desire or tend
      > unknowingly to elevate themselves on the platform of their belief, to
      > the point that questions or challenges are taken to heart.
      > I want to look into this further. One thing that I have always tried
      > to do is to see any disagreement or challenge as merely a challenge.
      > Not just to overcome, but to maintain equilibrium, composure, and
      > dignity while doing so. I would have to say that the vast majority of
      > people who responded were so kind and thorough... I am grateful.
      > I think if you read between the lines it should be clear what I think
      > about any distress caused by my use of the word 'nonsense'.
      > Nevertheless, I apologise for deliberately testing the waters using an
      > underhanded method!!! Thanks. I look forward to reading more about
      > what buddhism means to you.

      "Genius might be described as a supreme capacity for getting its
      possessors into trouble of all kinds."
      -- Samuel Butler
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