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Re: [Buddhism_101] Re: Shunyata - Emptiness

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  • Tsangpa Bhu
    Nature of emptiness is like mute person trying to speak. u cant say, he is not speaking , just becourse u cant hear a sound, ,nor u can say, he is speaking,
    Message 1 of 921 , Aug 5, 2010
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      Nature of emptiness is like mute person trying to speak. u cant say, he is not speaking , just becourse u cant hear a sound, ,nor u can say, he is speaking, just becourse, he is making gestures  .So emptiness is neither form nor not form. It is basis of all possibility like open space..


      From: tbirlin <tbirlin@...>
      To: Buddhism_101@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thu, 5 August, 2010 12:26:59 AM
      Subject: [Buddhism_101] Re: Shunyata - Emptiness

       

      Thank you for your thoughtful post, Ken. You make many good points. Yes, it is extremely difficult to define or describe "emptiness," but I think we need to keep in mind the real term we are trying to describe or define is shunyata. By focusing on emptiness, we tend to forget we are already one remove from the original term we are endeavoring to understand. Emptiness itself is an attempt to define or describe shunyata, and I wonder if it is the best term. I have heard masters say that whereas IT, Reality, is empty, it is not really empty, suggesting to me that perhaps emptiness is not the best term. We don't translate nirvana or dharma into english equivalents, primarily because there are no English equivalents. Might this be true of shunyata as well? Emptiness in English carries the distinct meaning that there is nothing there, nothing at all. But, as poor as my understanding of shunyata is, I don't think this is the intended meaning. Perhaps "emptiness" is more misleading and confusing than it is illuminating. Seems to me we should be focusing on what the ancients meant by "shunyata," not what is the meaning of "emptiness."

      Tom

      --- In Buddhism_101@yahoogroups.com, ken <gebser@...> wrote:
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      > Tom,
      >
      > You bring up a good point. Yes, non-duality is a characteristic of
      > emptiness. But I don't think that allows us to equate emptiness and
      > non-duality....


    • Analine Tsepal
      If this elephant of mind is bound on all sides by the cord of mindfulness,All fear disappears and complete happiness comes.All enemies: all the tigers, lions,
      Message 921 of 921 , Aug 6, 2011
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        If this elephant of mind is bound on all sides by the cord of mindfulness,
        All fear disappears and complete happiness comes.
        All enemies: all the tigers, lions, elephants, bears, serpents (of our emotions);
        And all the keepers of hell; the demons and the horrors,
        All of these are bound by the mastery of your mind,
        And by the taming of that one mind, all are subdued,
        Because from the mind are derived all fears and immeasurable sorrows.


        SHANTIDEVA

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