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  • uudre@aol.com
    Also: Governor Bush made mincemeat of Terri s name yesterday while commenting that he sympathized with the her parents but could do nothing because of
    Message 1 of 7 , Aug 1, 2003
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      Also:
      Governor Bush made mincemeat of Terri's name yesterday while commenting that he sympathized with the her parents but could do nothing because of Florida's guardianship laws. The husband wanting to kill her who will not divorce her and has been long-term engaged to another woman he had a child by last year -- is her legal guardian.


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      Schiavo files appeal to allow wife's death
      By Associated Press
      © St. Petersburg Times
      published August 1, 2003


      TALLAHASSEE - The husband of a brain-damaged Pinellas woman asked the Florida Supreme Court on Thursday to lift a lower court's stay that is preventing removal of the feeding tube keeping her alive.

      An attorney for Michael Schiavo, who wants his wife removed from life support so she can die, filed the motion asking the Supreme Court to lift a 30-day stay issued last week by the 2nd District Court of Appeal.

      The appellate court in June ruled against Terri Schiavo's parents' efforts to keep her on life support. It issued the stay to give the parents time to try to persuade the Supreme Court to hear another appeal. Terri Schiavo, then 26, collapsed in 1990 after her heart stopped from what doctors believe was a potassium imbalance. The loss of oxygen to her brain left her in a vegetative state.
    • uudre@aol.com
        http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93209,00.html   Tuesday, July 29, 2003
      Message 2 of 7 , Aug 2, 2003
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        http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,93209,00.html


          Tuesday, July 29, 2003
                 


         

          This is a partial transcript from The O'Reilly Factor, July 28, 2003. Click here to order
          the complete transcript.


         

                              Watch The O'Reilly Factor weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m.
                              ET and listen to the Radio Factor!


         

                              BILL O'REILLY, HOST:  In the Impact segment tonight,
                              30-year old Terri Schiavo (search) has been unable to
                              communicate since suffering a heart attack 13 years ago.
                              Right now, she's in a hospice near St. Petersburg, Florida
                              (search).


         

                              Her husband wants to pull the plug, but her parents and
                              brothers do not and are fighting the Florida courts to prevent
                              her death.  There's also money involved  here.


         

                              Joining us now from Tampa is Robert Schindler, Terry's
                              father and her brother, Bobby Schindler.  We asked the
                              husband to come on, but he doesn't want to, but we do
                              have a statement from the lawyer that we'll get to in a
                              moment.


         

                              All right now, the case is right now on a 30-day appeal.  It's
                              been ruled that Judge George Greer in Clearwater said that
                              the plug can be pulled.  Your daughter and sister's
                              physician said, "there's no hope for coming out of her
                              vegetative state."  But you guys disagree with that?


         

                              Let's start with you, Mr. Schindler, the father.

         

                              ROBERT SCHINDLER, TERRI SCHIAVO'S FATHER:  Yes,
                              actually there's a different opinions.  We have doctors who
                              are thoroughly convinced that Terri can recover to some
                              level.  And the other thing is, she's not a persistent
                              vegetative state.  She's being portrayed as that for I think
                              reasons that kind of lulled the public into sleep to allow her
                              to die.  Terri is by far from in that kind of condition.


         

                              O'REILLY:  All right, but -- that's what her doctor says, so
                              you're right.  There are testimony -- medical testimony on
                              both sides which makes this a very complicated case.


         

                              But 13 years, Bobby.  Boy, people are going to say, you
                              know, it's the humane thing to do.  How do you answer?


         

          BOBBY SCHINDLER, BROTHER OF TERRY SCHIAVO:  Well, we don't feel as though time is
          an issue, especially when we have our doctors that are testifying that they believe Terri
          can be helped, she just needs rehabilitation.


         

          Michael has blocked, her husband, any chance of rehabilitation for over a decade now,
          and we just want...


         

          O'REILLY:  When you say rehabilitation, what do you mean?  I mean she's -- she's
          unresponsive.  She has -- according to the other side, she has some reflexes, startle
          reflexes, but she can't speak or anything like that.  So what do you mean by rehabilitation?


         

          BOBBY SCHINDLER:  Well, Terri -- if you see videos of Terri, you can see that she's trying
          her hardest to communicate.  She responds to different stimuli, and doctors believe, that
          have come in and examined Terri, that she's a candidate to -- for rehabilitation.  There's
          different types that are available today that can be applied to Terri to try to help her...


         

          O'REILLY:  Are the courts blocking this rehab?

         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  Yes.

         

          O'REILLY:  The courts have -- right now are saying you can't bring in any rehabilitative
          specialist to help her?


         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  That's perfectly correct.  We've been blocked for 10 years to help
          Terri, and that's the real bottom line of the problem.


         

          Ten years ago, Terri was in a situation where she was not -- you know, she's not in a
          coma.  Terri suffers brain damage.  And 10 years ago, Terri was talking, and,
          unfortunately, she has never had any type of therapy from that point on.


         

          And, for the past three years she's been confined in a room.  She's in an 8-by-12 room.

         

          O'REILLY:  Why would the courts block the rehab?  What is their opinion on that?

         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  That's a good question.  The courts have blocked everything that
          we have tried to do for Terri.


         

          BOBBY SCHINDLER:  The...

         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  It's just...

         

          BOBBY SCHINDLER:  The judge that is on this case would not even allow a swallowing
          test.  If Terri could swallow, which our doctors believe she is capable of doing, she
          wouldn't need the feeding tube, and, therefore, wouldn't qualify under Florida law to be
          starved to death.  The doctor -- or -- I'm sorry -- the judge will not even allow us to apply --
          to try a swallowing test on Terri.


         

          O'REILLY:  This is Greer, the judge, right?

         

          BOBBY SCHINDLER:  That's correct.  She has not had a swallowing test, again, in 10
          years.


         

          O'REILLY:  All right.  Now there's money involved here.  You think this is the root of the
          problem, Mr. Schindler.


         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  I think initially it was.  The -- there was quite an inheritance there
          for the husband at the time he filed the petition to end Terri's life.


         

          O'REILLY:  How much?

         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  Well, it was close to a million dollars.

         

          O'REILLY:  Where did that money come from?

         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  It came from a malpractice medical suit.

         

          O'REILLY:  So he stands to get a million if she dies.

         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  At that point.  But that money's been dissipated, that the attorney
          he has representing him has received upwards of $600,000.


         

          O'REILLY:  And we're going to have that attorney on THE FACTOR later on this week, I
          hope.


         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  Well...

         

          O'REILLY:  We'll get his side of the story.

         

          So you believe this is just -- the courts are just being irresponsible and that your daughter
          and your sister could have not a normal life, but some life?


         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  Oh, absolutely.  I mean there are so many doctors that have come
          forward, particularly when they see these videos of Terri...


         

          O'REILLY:  Right.  We saw them.

         

          All right.  Well, look, we're going to follow this, and, you know, we don't want anybody to die
          if this -- there's any hope for them.


         

          Thank you, gentlemen.

         

          ROBERT SCHINDLER:  Thank you very much.
      • patanderfl
        I am the attorney for Terri Schiavo s parents. It is my understanding that someone in this group recently had some fact- specific questions about the case. I
        Message 3 of 7 , Sep 29, 2003
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          I am the attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents. It is my
          understanding that someone in this group recently had some fact-
          specific questions about the case. I would be glad to answer them if
          the questioner will just fire them off to me.

          Pat Anderson
          St. Petersburg, FL
        • David Wetherow
          Hello, I m not responding with questions, but rather with a suggestion. I get the sense that one of the threads of argument for continuing to support Terri
          Message 4 of 7 , Sep 29, 2003
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            Hello,

            I'm not responding with questions, but rather with a suggestion.

            I get the sense that one of the threads of argument for continuing to
            support Terri Schiavo is the possibility that she might 'recover' to
            some degree, some time in the future, given more time, or given more
            appropriate care and active treatment and rehabilitation.

            If this is the case, I suggest that this is somewhat like trying to
            climb _up_ a slippery slope. The value of Terri's life and the
            commitment to protect her life, should be grounded in her simply being
            human. The arguments and counter-arguments about whether she might be
            'rehabilitated' (including histories of who-has-'wakened-up' from
            comas-after-how-long, etc.) are endless, and in my view, fruitless.

            Of _course_ it would make sense to give Terri the advantage of the
            benefit of the doubt (she's really 'in' there / she might wake up) and
            the advantage of all available technologies for establishing
            communication, swallowing, etc. But her life shouldn't depend on these
            things. Rather, her life should depend on the commitment and moral
            stand of her friends, family and community (including the State).

            I acknowledge that I know nothing about your actual line of defense, but
            I worry when I see media references to people (perhaps not yourselves)
            defending her life based on some prospect of recovery. As you know,
            many of our friends and family members live with 'unrecoverable'
            conditions. Killing Terri opens the door to killing them all.

            Sincerely, and with great respect,
            David Wetherow
            Parksville, British Columbia
            http://www.communityworks.info

            -----Original Message-----
            From: patanderfl [mailto:PatAnderFL@...]
            Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 9:34 AM
            To: Bioethics@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [Bioethics] Terri Schiavo

            I am the attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents. It is my
            understanding that someone in this group recently had some fact-
            specific questions about the case. I would be glad to answer them if
            the questioner will just fire them off to me.

            Pat Anderson
            St. Petersburg, FL




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          • Judygran@aol.com
            I agree with David about the argument from the possibility of recovery being a slippery slope that we should not start down. At the same time, I think that
            Message 5 of 7 , Sep 30, 2003
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              I agree with David about the argument from the possibility of "recovery" being a slippery slope that we should not start down. At the same time, I think that *because* Terri is human, she deserves a decent quality of life, more than she is allowed to experience in her present environment. I understand that Terri's parents think that she could benefit from rehabilitation and therapy, which certainly sounds reasonable to me.

              Incidentally, for TV viewers, at the end of last season, a character in the drama "Judging Amy" went into a coma as a result of complications of childbirth. In the first episode of the season, she was moved from the hospital to a nursing facility, still in a coma. At the end of the episode, while her husband was reading to her, she began to  emerge from the coma. Stay tuned for what happens next -- 10 PM tonight Eastern time.

              Judith Gran

              I get the sense that one of the threads of argument for continuing to
              support Terri Schiavo is the possibility that she might 'recover' to
              some degree, some time in the future, given more time, or given more
              appropriate care and active treatment and rehabilitation.

              If this is the case, I suggest that this is somewhat like trying to
              climb _up_ a slippery slope.  The value of Terri's life and the
              commitment to protect her life, should be grounded in her simply being
              human.  The arguments and counter-arguments about whether she might be
              'rehabilitated' (including histories of who-has-'wakened-up' from
              comas-after-how-long, etc.) are endless, and in my view, fruitless.


            • clair
              Hi Pat. How is Terri s health, there has been no clear update since her being sent to and fro the emergency department a few weeks ago, I hope she has fought
              Message 6 of 7 , Sep 30, 2003
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                Hi Pat.
                 
                How is Terri's health, there has been no clear update since her being sent to and fro the emergency department a few weeks ago, I hope she has fought off this chest infection, it seems Michael is hoping matters will be taken out of everyone's hands.
                 
                is there anything else we can do long distance to help Terri?
                 
                is there anything left which can be done now? 
                 
                Why does her husband still have power over her when under your laws there she is entitled to divorce? is it because Terri is regarded as unable to express the desire to divorce him?
                 
                if Terri was moved without permission 'somehow' to another state would the judgement to kill her still stand?
                 
                clair lewis.
                Disabled People's Direct Action Network UK (Manchester)
                ----- Original Message -----
                Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 5:34 PM
                Subject: [Bioethics] Terri Schiavo

                I am the attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents.  It is my
                understanding that someone in this group recently had some fact-
                specific questions about the case.  I would be glad to answer them if
                the questioner will just fire them off to me.

                Pat Anderson
                St. Petersburg, FL



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              • Dave at Inclusion Daily Express
                Hello fellow list members, A special edition of Inclusion Daily Express dedicated to Terri Schiavo has been posted on the website at this address:
                Message 7 of 7 , Oct 28, 2004
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                  Hello fellow list members,

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