RE: [Bioethics] Confessions of a "Speciesist"
- Rosemary, if I were put to the ultimate test and had to choose between
having a chicken or a human offed I'd spare the human. Guess that makes me a
proud, card-carrying humanis.... er, sorry...speciest. Genes are thicker
than water, I guess.
From: Rosemary Amey [mailto:rosemaryamey@...]
Sent: Thursday, 1 May 2003 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Bioethics] Confessions of a "Speciesist"
Earl Appleby wrote:
> I will be blunt, as Singer is blunt. The idea that the value of the lifeWhy? Saying comparing people to chickens is obscene does not explain or
> of an infant or of any human being regardless of the kind and degree of
> the disabilities he or she may have can be compared on an equal basis to
> the life of a chicken -- or even deemed inferior -- is obscene.
justify your speciesism, it only illustrates it.
> And while I am touching on family matters, may I simply add that, whileThe PETA campaign was created by family members of survivors, and some
> PETA may not get it, as the grandson of Nicholas Hausemer, a Luxembourg
> patriot murdered by the Nazis in the Mauthausen concentration camp, I
> not only understand but share the disgust that PETA's current campaign
> comparing the killing of chickens to the Holocaust
> (http://www.pjstar.com/news/regional/g144950a.html) rightly engenders
> among not only the families of survivors and victims but among decent
> men and women everywhere.
survivors who are not members of PETA have defended it.
http://masskilling.com/sdujack.html (I will say that I think the campaign is
poorly done and oversimplifies in its comparison of the Holocaust with
meat-eating. PETA has a history of angering animal rights advocates as well
as other people with its poorly thought out campaigns, which often seem
deliberately designed to offend. PETA cannot be taken to be representative
of all animal rights activists.)
While we are touching on family matters, my son's paternal grandfather,
Bernard Sztybel, was a young Jewish boy in Poland who narrowly escaped the
Nazis. His son, David Sztybel, Ph.D., has a chapter dealing with the
similarities and differences between the Holocaust and our society's
treatment of nonhuman animals in his thesis, Empathy and Rationality in
Ethics. The thesis is available online at:
http://sztybel.tripod.com/thesis_menu.html; the chapter on Holocausts is at:
http://sztybel.tripod.com/5_ch._4.pdf (PDF, requires Adobe Acrobat reader
which can be downloaded for free here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html). (Although David
mentions me in the acknowledgements, he revised the thesis substantially
since leaving me so I haven't read all of it in its final form.)
I think an extensive discussion of speciesism is a tad off-topic for this
An assertion (or denial) of speciesism is not necessary to affirm the rights
of disabled people.
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