6066Re: Deformed wings
- Oct 2, 2005Honeybees and Varroa are both part of a natural system, granted they
probably weren't initally part of the same intrinsic system, but all
natural systems are in flux -- boy what a flux Varroa getting together
with Apis mellifera has been. I agree, medicating is like putting a
bandaid on a non-surgical amputation. If we let the bees, beetles,
mites, and bacteria find their own equilibrium we would be better off.
None of the "treatments" are cures -- cures would just not be as
economically viable as "treatments" are.
--- In email@example.com, "Scot Mc Pherson"
> Beekeeping has changed with the advent of 3 major influences.Varroa, small hive beetle and africanization. If we as a global
community had simply let these things run their course, they would
have faded into background problems with little adjustment to
management styles. The coming of pharmaceutical beekeeping changed
that course. Instead of pests and diseases burning through all that it
could exploit, we have continued the possibility of widespread
>bees. It is now instead the bees being o]towed behind us while the
> Beekeeping used to be about knowing the seasons and following the
problems just follow. Predetors prey on the weak and keep the
populations strong and tuned. Preventing the predation only lets the
prey grow fat without the ability to survive. Sharks and fish, wolf
and sheep, lions and antelopes all share this relationship, and so do
bees share this relationship with mites and small hive beetle, wax
moth, foulbrood and all the other threats. When we leave the predetors
to their prey, all that is left is strong specimens to start the next
generation. Keep it up and let it do its work and your predetor only
continues to make you stronger.
> Scot Mc Pherson
> McPherson Family Honey Farms
> Davenport, IA
> Bradenton, FL
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "George Fergusson" <gsferg@s...>
> >Sent: 10/2/05 7:07:36 PM
> >To: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com>
> >Subject: Re: [beekeeping] Deformed wings
> >At 05:49 PM 10/2/05 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Hello everyone,
> >>It's me again with another one of my stupid questions.
> >It's me again with another one of my stupid answers!
> >> Is it normal to periodically see a certain number of sick
> >from a hive ?go the
> >No, it isn't normal.
> >>Is time to go to the next step in treatment ( I was hoping to
> >natural route, maybe not ) ? Is it too late ? What should I donext ?
> >roll maybe?
> >Have you done any mite counts? 24 hour natural drops? A sugar
> >Keeping track of the change in mite loads is tedious butnecessary. Also,
> >go through the hive, or enough of it to check some of the brood-look for
> >uncapped pupae, dead uncapped brood, etc. I'm not talkinghealthy curled up
> >white larvae swimming in their puddle of royal jelly, I'mtalking larger,
> >older partially formed bees that might even have purple eyes.Dig a few out
> >with your hive tool or a sharp stick and check for mites. Alsobe on the
> >lookout for bees with deformed wings wandering around the comb.I've seen
> >that in a few of my hives.what you're
> >Next, if you determine you have a mite problem, is to decide
> >going to do. In general I'm staying away from the patently chemicalcounts.
> >approaches. In particular, I'm using Oxalic Acid vapor. I hope it's
> >helped.. I'll lose these hives if it doesn't I'm afraid. I've done 3
> >treatments to date and have just put in my screens to do drop
> >my first
> >>I've been out of beekeeping since the middle 70's and this is
> >year back at it. Things were different then and I'm in the steeppart of
> >the learning curve trying to stay alert to the threats of the day.as possible
> >Experience is the best teacher but I also like to learn as much
> >from the lessons that others have learned. I will greatlyappreciate all of
> >your advice.something years.
> >I'll take your word for beekeeping having changed in 30
> >I'm sure it has. The bees are largely the same I think, but wegot mites
> >now.. and many of the bee diseases aren't responding to traditionalchemicals to
> >treatments due to years and years of the effects of the use of
> >combat them. Obviously, it isn't working.
> >Good luck. Let us know what you find out.
> >George & Nancy Fergusson
> >Sweet Time Apiary
> >326 Jefferson Road
> >Whitefield Maine 04353
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