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  • John
    Mike, When I say you do not have the correct materials, what I mean is that the correct lattice structures in semiconductors have not been given to us, the
    Message 1 of 40 , Feb 24, 2008
      Mike,
      When I say you do not have the correct materials, what I mean is that
      the correct lattice structures in semiconductors have not been given
      to us, the systems already are in use . It would be very difficult to
      form your own materials, so we do the next best thing.

      Solar cells are the best example of conversion, but they do not work
      at night, do they. You must be able to draw energy from the
      environment all the time, so you need a conversion for the Ambient
      Surroundings.
      Solar cell's are working in a band gap, but not in white light, does
      this give you any idea's, I hope so, check it out, if I found it out
      you can do the same.
      Moray had one conversion process but it required materials you can
      not have.
      One way was to paint radium paint on solar cells, but can you buy
      radium.

      Radium is the conversion for the never ending rays coming to earth
      each day, Moray. Tesla. Why did they take it away, people.

      We have made crystals which generate energy in semiconductors, but it
      is classified by all governments around the world.
      Yes it was taught one time in Germany and I find many references to
      this.
      Clive's question is valid, so I gave him the answer, that is the way
      I see it.
      The energy must be converted from the gaseous state, Tesla knew this
      also.
      He did try to get people of that day to understand what it was.
      Electricity in the primeval form is liquid, it must be converted.
      One other thing is the magnetic field can be a glowing field, but you
      still need a conversion to use it.
      Another is electrets tuned to a frequency, but can you build it with
      the materials we can by over the counter,,,, NO.
      We have junky things in science which we can have, all others are
      taken away and newspeak taught, Buzzwords.
      I on the other hand, remade the 1984 machine, turned it into the
      monopole energizer. I was told long ago to buy gasoline, stay alive,
      but the internet has given the chance to everybody with what I knew
      in this field, soon coming to an end. The answer is in the minerals
      that surround us as they are gathering energy all the time, just need
      the conversion to electrical power.
      John













      --- In Bedini_SG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mikefurness2002@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Clive,
      > I was not going to say anything until someone else has
      > spoken, here's an extract that I find so very hard
      > <<<I say good luck, as you do not have the correct materials to make
      > that happen.>>>>>
      >
      > WHY not give us the missing materials?
      >
      > PLEASE!
      >
      > Do you want us to duplicate OR NOT?
      >
      > This, I think is the point it all hinges on!
      >
      > Mike.
      >
      > Mike. J. Furness.
      >
      >
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Bedini_SG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bedini_SG@yahoogroups.com]
      On
      > Behalf Of Clive
      > Sent: 24 February 2008 19:03
      > To: Bedini_SG@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [Bedini_SG] Re: More from John
      >
      >
      > I'm disapointed John. Why can't you explain to us why you see 23
      degrees
      > as the transistor turn-on angle? Your final sentence speaks volumes!
      >
      > Clive
      >
      > --- In Bedini_SG@yahoogrou <mailto:Bedini_SG%40yahoogroups.com>
      ps.com,
      > "John" <john_bedini@> wrote:
      > >
      > > To The SG Group,
      > >
      > > In the past when the Sg group was first setup by Sterling, Peter
      and
      > > I explained that the machine was just to prove the operation of
      the
      > > theory and nothing more. If you fail to comprehend the machine and
      > > it's workings then I can not force it upon you.
      > > If you see that it is of no value then why stay in any group, as
      you
      > > will learn nothing......
      > >
      > > Also I think I have given all the information without any
      selfishness
      > > towards others in this group. I think I have had this talk with
      > > others before. I do not hold any grudges towards others even if
      they
      > > disagree with me on my work.
      > > I have come to the point in my life where it just does not make
      any
      > > difference what people do, they're the ones in the end who will
      > > remember that the machine could have worked as I said.
      > >
      > > Hopefully you will have the power systems that are now in use, as
      you
      > > can measure everything about them, and you feel good with all the
      > > meters to prove your right.
      > > As for my business with chargers, I have no time limits on me for
      > > anything at my company, I can build what I want, anytime I want.
      > >
      > > I have chosen to learn a different science unknown to most people,
      > > this is like a painting that someone else may not understand, so
      they
      > > find no value in it.
      > >
      > > Main science has give you everything at a high cost such as solar
      > > cells, wind generators, waterpower and so on, these are not free-
      > > energy systems, but people believe that they are, forgetting all
      the
      > > setup costs, they never pay back anything as they fail all the
      time,
      > > mostly the batteries.
      > >
      > > My machine is a mass-less output system as I have said many
      times, I
      > > have said how the machine works. You must pay for the trigger or
      you
      > > can not have the energy, Tesla's system worked the same way, no
      free
      > > as someone had to pay for the trigger to the transmitter.
      > >
      > > The systems people seek require one trigger signal and then the
      > > machine runs itself after that. I say good luck, as you do not
      have
      > > the correct materials to make that happen. People make mysteries
      out
      > > of everything not the inventor, he just tries to explain it the
      way
      > > it works in his mind, you are free to choose what you believe in.
      > >
      > > Most people do not even understand that magnets hold the answer to
      > > your question as they are the real free energy machines, one
      charge
      > > and they run forever. If people could see where the energy is
      coming
      > > from they would be shocked as they would have nothing to measure
      it,
      > > it's only measurable after it's converted by the material in it's
      > > makeup.
      > >
      > > So little comments like this have no meaning at all, it's just
      plain
      > > stupidity and it just causes disruption for those working to
      better
      > > themselves in a backwards upside down world.
      > >
      > > As for me I have no time for such things anymore.
      > > John
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In Bedini_SG@yahoogrou <mailto:Bedini_SG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > ps.com, Jack R Welch jack82721@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Congrats
      > > >
      > > > miki02131 miki02131@ wrote: Mike,
      > > >
      > > > Unfortunately, your analysis of JB's note focus more on the form
      > > than
      > > > on the essence. Your approach fails miserably to prove his
      theories
      > > > wrong one way or another. To make matters worst, you fall back
      to
      > > > personal attacks to make your points.
      > > >
      > > > Your definition of the terms "new age" makes you look bad. The
      fact,
      > > > you're trying so hard to redefine such a common term, shows to
      > > > everyone the kind of ego you're carrying around. Is this smart
      of
      > > you
      > > > to try to spin a term out of its meaning knowing full well the
      > > people
      > > > likely to read your post have access to the internet or a
      > > dictionary?
      > > > When they google it and come up with the true meaning, don't you
      > > > realize how much discredit and embarrassment this brings upon
      you.
      > > > Shame on you!
      > > >
      > > > Thanks,
      > > >
      > > > Miki.
      > > >
      > > > --- In Bedini_SG@yahoogrou <mailto:Bedini_SG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > ps.com, "Mike" <mikefurness2002@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > Miki,
      > > > > Every post purported from Bedin, gives more and MORE doubt
      about
      > > > > EVERYTHING!
      > > > > We've been told, at various times, that Bedini is an
      electronics
      > > > > engineer, and specialist in both transistors and their
      > > manufacture to
      > > > > such an extent, that he can go into a fab plant and
      make 'unusual'
      > > > > transistors in such a way that they can make his devices
      > > all 'WORK!'
      > > > > WHY, for instance is he incapable of producing a CORRECTLY
      drawn
      > > circuit
      > > > > (and mechanical) diagrams with proper symbols and values; and
      > > update
      > > > > all; and parts lists?
      > > > >
      > > > > YET, this post is not coherent in any way; scarcely the
      writings
      > > of a
      > > > > man in control of his sanity; or ability to understand basic
      > > electronics
      > > > > in other than 'Magical terms'. Even a SIMPLE education would
      > > explain
      > > > > FULLY about 'Transmission lines' 'reflected impedance'
      Aerials and
      > > > > Matching!!! ( Go GOOGLE for yourself)
      > > > >
      > > > > FAR LESS the sane calculated words of someone trying to convey
      > > > > scientific information to the world!
      > > > >
      > > > > I have heard from more than one source, that he only has a
      month
      > > or so
      > > > > to demonstrate a successful COMMERCIALLY VIABLE battery
      charger
      > > to his
      > > > > 'Investor' of face removal of all funding!
      > > > >
      > > > > Only time will tell if this is rumour, fact or fiction!
      > > > >
      > > > > Maybe it was an unfortunate term you used in your previous
      post :-
      > > "NEW
      > > > > AGE THINKING?"
      > > > >
      > > > > New age, in UK, refers to those without education, who either
      > > live in
      > > > > 'Benders' (like small wigwams), or old junkyard trucks or
      busses,
      > > they
      > > > > live in the forests, believe in Magic' and follow various
      > > quaint 'Cults'
      > > > > (and you have plenty in USA); until moved on by authority!
      They
      > > don't
      > > > > believe in education, or any of the mathematical analysis or
      > > proof of
      > > > > anything!
      > > > >
      > > > > You are beginning to enter the 'Twilight zone' yourself, with
      your
      > > > > continued rejection of known facts and theories, I think?
      > > > >
      > > > > Good luck to you Miki, we've all got to have our beliefs!
      > > > >
      > > > > Mike.
      > > > >
      > > > > Mike. J. Furness.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > From: Bedini_SG@yahoogrou <mailto:Bedini_SG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > ps.com
      > > [mailto:Bedini_SG@yahoogrou <mailto:Bedini_SG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > ps.com] On
      > > > > Behalf Of miki02131
      > > > > Sent: 23 February 2008 19:58
      > > > > To: Bedini_SG@yahoogrou <mailto:Bedini_SG%40yahoogroups.com>
      > ps.com
      > > > > Subject: [Bedini_SG] More from John
      > > > >
      > > > > All
      > > > >
      > > > > This is another of JB's note that was sent to me by someone.
      As
      > > the
      > > > > previous ones, it's probably a monopole post. But the monopole
      > > doesn't
      > > > > give much leeway in terms of dissecting and criticizing JB's
      > > words for
      > > > > a better understanding. Here members can make controversial
      > > comments.
      > > > > I decide to post it here knowing full well some people may not
      > > like
      > > > > cross posting between the group. Here we go, fire away.
      thanks,
      > > Miki.
      > > > >
      > > > > "Tesla's One Wire System.
      > > > >
      > > > > Ok, Let's go back to my posts. I said that the major factor
      is the
      > > > > frequency,
      > > > > you must be
      > > > > above 10Khz and the pulse must be very sharp.
      > > > >
      > > > > Again it was pointed out that these are unidirectional pulses
      > > down the
      > > > > wire, (
      > > > > My Machine)
      > > > > I also said that the oscillator would be the best to work
      with,
      > > The
      > > > > Monopole is
      > > > > not fast
      > > > > enough, except you can trick it with an inductor and form a
      node
      > > along
      > > > > either
      > > > > wire,
      > > > > Tesla was very clear on this, the node is a point where it
      looks
      > > like an
      > > > > inductance in the
      > > > > line. Tesla under high frequency operation could put a light
      > > across a
      > > > > copper
      > > > > bus-bar and
      > > > > the light would light, look at his experiments.
      > > > >
      > > > > The multi-pole Monopole does this much better then the single
      > > pole. I
      > > > > also
      > > > > explained that
      > > > > the battery develops it's own current's under this inverted
      > > signal.
      > > > > The machine follows the 1984 version, also posted ( My
      Machine).
      > > (1984
      > > > > energizer
      > > > > was
      > > > > changed so you could build it in a simple form without much
      > > error.)
      > > > >
      > > > > The group should know that without current to charge a storage
      > > battery
      > > > > you have
      > > > > nothing,
      > > > > School teaching, the simple science of knowing nothing, the
      real
      > > > > science you
      > > > > have not
      > > > > been taught. The real science knows that you can take all the
      > > energy
      > > > > you want if
      > > > > you
      > > > > trigger it out of the system for very little input. Non-liner
      > > systems
      > > > > to order,
      > > > > not what we
      > > > > build in common electronics, of order to non-liner, back to
      the
      > > > > environment. We
      > > > > want to
      > > > > suck it from the environment.
      > > > >
      > > > > Think of things backwards with this machine, example no
      current
      > > > > battery charges,
      > > > > Machine pulse on after top dead center at 23 degrees, phases
      > > inverted
      > > > > 180
      > > > > degrees, no
      > > > > back EMF affecting the rotor, running on scalar south pole or
      > > > > in-between the
      > > > > magnetic
      > > > > poles, Coil being used as an energy pump, energy developed by
      the
      > > > > chemical
      > > > > between the
      > > > > lattice structure of the plates with correct trigger signal.
      > > Think how a
      > > > > stressed crystal
      > > > > emits electrical output. the force is the trigger.
      > > > > I could go on and on but I won't, you must know how to make
      > > energy as
      > > > > time is
      > > > > short for
      > > > > the whole world.
      > > > > Again, The correct oscillator with one wire two diodes at the
      end
      > > across
      > > > > a
      > > > > capacitor of no
      > > > > more then 3uF will give 400-volts, an antenna wire with the
      > > correct
      > > > > inductor
      > > > > does the
      > > > > same thing, TIME CHARGE.
      > > > > John"
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > > >
      > >
      >
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      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
    • joe_1001101
      ... As soon as I get an organized lab again, I ll do more tests. First I ll need to remove 32 magnets to get to 16 singles for the rotor. Re-secure the
      Message 40 of 40 , Feb 25, 2008
        John Popelish wrote:

        > Two color LED strobe pictures for each of those cases would
        > make for a wonderfully educational lesson.

        As soon as I get an organized lab again, I'll do more tests. First
        I'll need to remove 32 magnets to get to 16 singles for the rotor.
        Re-secure the magnets, re-balance the rotor, raise the coil...

        Regards,

        Joe
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