5283RE: [Beatty_Byrnes_DNA] Re: [GenMatch] YSEQ Z16433 results Reply
- Jul 21, 2014
Sorry, Peter. It is SNP Z16433. Have a look at my message below the one you replied to (dated June 26). You will see that my STR matches are not so long ago. They range from a GD of 5 to 7. We are talking about 20 to 24 generations at the most.
So my point is that since I am ancestral on SNP Z16433 then it must have mutated since my common ancestor with those 10 or so Beattys who match me.
I plan to order the Big Y when the price comes down a bit. I have ordered 4 SNPs from Yseq and I was ancestral on all of them.
Thanks for your enquiry. I am at a loss to understand your question. What is your ‘433’ is it a STR or a SNP test? I am unable to recognise it!. If you are ANCESTRAL for R1b-Z16433 SNP then you would not match ANY Known Beatty current tests. You are related but at a time very very very long time ago. Hope that helps. Suggest you investigate the other R1b-Z164xx SNP tests. The group is quiet as we are having holidays.
Peter D Beattie
R1b-Z16433.A430/A476 derived (BIG Y locations FTDNA)
I posted the message below when there was a flurry of activity in this group and there were no comments so I am posting it again now that it’s quiet.
It would be interesting for me to know if the Beattys who match me are positive for 433. My kit number is N38274.
If so, then it would seem that 433 is quite recent or it is not stable since I am negative for it.
I was indeed looking forward to learning that I descended from border reivers, Peter J. However, what it m ay be telling us is that the Z16433 mutation occurred more recently than the EKA of the Gastons and Beatties. Looking at the 67 marker matches of one of our Gaston project member who is closest to our modal haplotype I see 1 with a GD of five, 2 with a GD of six, and 5 with a GD of seven. The latter gives a 78% probability of a common ancestor within 24 generations and 60% within 20 generations.
That is not good news for you, however its a big help as you are ANCESTRAL at Z16433 and would support our Beatty clan ISOGG application. It just shows you not ‘to put your trust in STR’s as well as Princes and Kings as well as Politicians’. Your best bet now is to follow whats going on in the Z255 Project and Subclades as well as the R!b-L21 Project.
Best of luck and thanks you very much for your support.
Peter D Beattie
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