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  • Andres Espino
    Ideally most buy a pretty much factory Buccaneer but certain models were much used by many owners to modify and the 210 and 240 seems to be the ones they did
    Message 1 of 53 , Aug 16, 2013
      Ideally most buy a pretty much factory Buccaneer but certain models were much used by many owners to modify and the 210 and 240 seems to be the ones they did it to most
      I suggest one avoid buying something too seriously modified unless they want a project and experiment as i did.

      My 240 had many modifications when i bought it and the title said it was a modified Columbuia 24.  I got it like this because it had been used in a non-0title state and was registered like that.  The boat was sold to a 2nd owner whio took it to California and the state transfered the prev state license and created a title which matched.  I wrote a long article in 2 other grouls entitled "When what you have is not what you got!"

      I hadnt seen a Buccaneer 230 before and thought I was getting  Columbia totally remodified.  So many specs did not match Columbia that I finally searched and identified it on sailbatdata.com by its 2 rows of portlights.

      When i got the boat the following modifications were alr4eady made..

      1. The rear 1/3 pf the cockpit was cut away and a bulkhead installed there.  That was divided front to bac in thirds forming a motor well in the middle and a hold on either side.  Hatch covers were madr for all but I got a rotted mess.

      2.  an Edson wheel helm was installed and one could even sit on the motor well cover and steer like a riding mower.

      3. The mast was moved and set on top of a piece of 2x8 inch as a block below the mast step which was al;so changed.

      4. The chainplates were moved and changed and short extensions were added to all the rigging which was now too short.

      5.  A traveler was installed on the cabin roof across the middle of the hatchway as in optional 240 set up.

      6.  Water and heet damaged interior was mostly gutted and missing.  I had to build a dinette and galley from scratch.

      7  A marine head and holding tank jad been installed between the main bulkhead and fwd vee births.

      8  The coickpit seat lockers were removed and the rear bed made into a wide single and the ceiling now raised so one has headroom there.

      9.  Recepticals were added for 110 AC, 220 AC and phone access

      10. The rear holds were vented with a blower to store fuel for the engine.

      THEN  I  STARTED Adding and Changing

      As I rebuilt the interior it also changed some from the original appearance.  I found the plywood cabinets and dinette from a vintage pickup camper fit within 1 inch.
      I added a crossbeam and 2 compression posts under the mast step.  I added additional floor mounted water tanls for ballast and house use and sacrifices standuing headroom in half the cabin/  I added basic instruments and 3 batteries.

      Right now my hukll is a Buccaneer 240 but nearly everything else has been changed.

      I WOULD NOT radically change a factory boat except some beefing up and stiffenong.  However this boat had already been seriously hacked and so I continued with the plan set for it.  From a distance it looks like a Bucc 240 but when you board her it is all different.

    • Carl
      ...and, people will think you are redneck affiliated. So, theres that. Sent from my iPhone
      Message 53 of 53 , Aug 20, 2013
        ...and, people will think you are redneck affiliated.  So, theres that.

        Sent from my iPhone

        On Aug 20, 2013, at 11:41 AM, Andres Espino <ima_very_cool_cowboy@...> wrote:


        I used to love my old Johnson 5hp 2 stroke outboard.  However in the last few years the Ethenol and other addatives to the gasoline rots out the carburator in my gas weed eaters, chainsaw and 2 cycle golf cart.  I always had to tinker to keep my OB running but now I am really concerned about repeating failures.  This Evinrude 15 is too large for the 240 load and power specs plate so i am considering the conversion since so many others seem to like it.  I cant really afford to put a couple hundred dollars or more into rebuilding this old OB abnd i cant affort to buy a new one either.

        As far as fuel consumption I have found 2 cycle engines to not be all that economical compared to 4 strokes.

        I havent done the conversion yet but I have been strongly thinking about it.. BUT  I agree that this is not something for everyone and is not that good for motors which will be exposed to the sea and elements as they are not that protected withut a motor cover.


        From: Carl <carl_muehlenbeck@...>
        To: "BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com" <BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 11:11 AM
        Subject: Re: [BaylinerBuccaneerGroup] Re: Kickers

        You know, i think 2 stroke outboards are awesome. Ya just gotta do a few things.  Keep spare plugs, spare ignition power pack, monitor water pump pressure, run good oil, make sure its not running lean by checking spark plug color often.  Flush cooling system after every few usages.  Change course if its coming out of the water from following seas and overspeeding and melting the water pump impeller.  Well,  i guess thats alot, huh.   Best on a fishing boat really.  

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        On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Andres Espino <ima_very_cool_cowboy@...> wrote:

        I would certainly not replace one with a mower engine, however converting a no good 2 cycle outboard for  under $50 for occasional use is a different thing.


        From: Carl <carl_muehlenbeck@...>
        To: "BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com" <BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:26 AM
        Subject: Re: [BaylinerBuccaneerGroup] Re: Kickers

        An idle of 400, and redline of 2500 rpms.  Should be able to chug along 100,000 hrs.  It will be a crying shame to replace it with a riding lawn mower engine.  I think i will cry just thinking of it.  Its like killing puppies or something.  Worse than ole Yeller!

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        On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Andres Espino <ima_very_cool_cowboy@...> wrote:

        All Diesels have heavy blocks to withstand higher temperatures and higher compression  I bet the flywheel alone for it weighs about 100 lbs  LOL  But it smooths it out to a steady duk duk duk sound.


        From: Carl <carl_muehlenbeck@...>
        To: "BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com" <BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 1:42 PM
        Subject: Re: [BaylinerBuccaneerGroup] Re: Kickers

        Yeah, a 7 hp engine that weighs 250 lbs?  Thats a recipe for eternal reliability.  

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        On Aug 18, 2013, at 1:10 PM, Andres Espino <ima_very_cool_cowboy@...> wrote:

        Agree and i love it.. runs with no battery and a hand crank even.  Knopwn for being very reliable.  Most gas engine mechanics are horrible around diesels.  try a person whio fixes diesel tractors or a machinist.


        From: Carl <carl_muehlenbeck@...>
        To: "BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com" <BaylinerBuccaneerGroup@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 12:54 PM
        Subject: Re: [BaylinerBuccaneerGroup] Re: Kickers

        Im sure it just a matter of cleaning gunk out of the injector. Prolly just need a q tip and some acetone.  Its about the simplest engine ever made.

        Heres a manual link

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        On Aug 18, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Bob Ingman <thingman2000@...> wrote:

         I`m not giving up on the MD-1 yet. After watching a youtube video of one being started after 30 yrs I see hope for it.
          I think its a matter of finding a more experienced mechanic to tackle the project. Meanwhile it is coming out of the boat so the area can be cleaned & painted. By then I will be able to make the final decision as to keeping it or replacing with 4 stroke gas engine. I would like the diesel ten to one over the gas engine. I`m just trying to get some use from the boat in any way that I can. Thanks. Bob
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