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Thank you Re: OR REI Pinnacle 35 daypack - Bob Dorenfeld

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  • Jamie D.
    PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL. IT IS MOST IMPORTANT! Thanks for your Owner s Review. It has been added to the Owner Review Queue and will be picked up by an
    Message 1 of 3 , Apr 23, 2013
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      PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL. IT IS MOST IMPORTANT!

      Thanks for your Owner's Review. It has been added to the Owner Review Queue and will be picked up by an Edit Moderator soon. If you are new to BackpackGearTest.org, welcome to the community! The Editors will work with you, within their own time constraints, to get your first two Owner Reviews approved and upload in a timely manner. Do not worry if nothing happens with it for several days. All our Editors are volunteers and your report will be subject to an official edit within fourteen days. If you have not had a response from an Edit Moderator via the Yahoo Groups list within this timeframe, please let me know directly at jdeben(at)hotmail.com

      To assist in this process, if this is your first Owner Review we ask that you post only ONE Owner Review for edit at a time. Our experience is that it is more efficient for both the Editors and
      yourself, if you post your first review, have it edited, approved and uploaded before you post your second and subsequent reviews.

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      You may receive edits or comments from other members of the group. These edits and comments, while not official, should be considered carefully, and if you find them substantial, revise and re-post your review. Incorporating member edits and re-submitting to the list
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    • Ray
      Hello Bob Welcome to BackpackGearTest and thank you for this, your first Owner Review. You did a very good job on it (even though it looks like you have a lot
      Message 2 of 3 , May 8, 2013
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        Hello Bob

        Welcome to BackpackGearTest and thank you for this, your first Owner Review. You did a very good job on it (even though it looks like you have a lot of edits;-) I will be your editor for this review. Your initial edits will follow. They will take the following format;

        EDIT: must be changed
        Edit: should be changed but will be left to your discretion
        Comment: just that or something to think about

        When you have made the changes please repost here with REPOST added to the subject line. Include your name also please.

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        Ray


        ***LOCATION: Salida, CO

        EDIT: please spell out the state for the benefit of our international readers, add "USA" also




        ***I'm an active hiker, snowshoer, skier (nordic & alpine), backpacker.

        EDIT: Nordic (needs a cap, look for all instances of this please.)


        I live at 7000' in the Southern Colorado Rockies where most of my activities are between 7000 and 14000 feet. I'll do day hikes from 4 to 12 miles, which can range up
        to 5000 feet of elevation change. I carry 15-20 lbs on day hikes, about 45 lbs
        on backpacks.

        EDIT: you need Metric (or Imperial) conversions for all measurements, weights, distances, etc. Please use lb instead of lbs for pounds.





        ***Manufacturer: REI, Inc.

        EDIT: please spell out their full name at least the first time, putting (REI) after it. Then you can use REI for the rest of the review.




        ***Option: Available in M or L torso size

        EDIT: what size are you reviewing?



        *** "http://www.rei.com/product/816105/rei-pinnacle-35-pack"

        EDIT: no links are allowed except for the manufacturer's top-level URL.



        *** and they stayed in place when tighly strapped.

        EDIT: tightly



        ***so my day pack needs to stay tight to my back and waist, and not not
        tear or rip easily.

        EDIT: delete one "not"




        - I can quickly strap my hiking pole at one of 2 or 3 different places,
        depending on what else is on the pack

        Comment: this is a place that you could add a lot for the reader by explaining just how/where you have been able to carry the poles.



        ***- extra gear can be attached on top with with the straps provided

        EDIT: delete one "with"



        ***- inner pocket that easily fits my 3 L (3.17 qt) water bladder, plus covered
        tube exit (left or right)

        Comment: water containers are the only item that they don't require a conversion number. It is fine to have it but if you don't want one it is OK too.



        ***After approximately 350 trail miles (over approximately 70 hiking days) and
        carrying loads of 15-20 pounds,

        EDIT: need the conversions here though.


        *** For anyone wanting to reduce weight,

        EDIT: rather than project your thoughts to the reader (or everybody else but you) keep this in the first person by saying: "if I want to remove weight, both the hip belt.."



        *** (via velcro) and the internal backplate are removable

        EDIT: Velcro is a trademarked name and is thus capitalized. But unless you know that it is Velcro you should just call it hook-and-loop



        *** You will feel more moisture than with a mesh-suspension style





        EDIT: We keep everything in the first person, no "you"s, just "me" and "I". Here is my canned explanation.

        Projection

        "When you tighten the laces on the boots, you pull the shoestrings in an out and upward motion. Then you tie it with a double knot and you are ready to go down the trail."

        This is a very common way to write, but in doing so we just said what "other people" would do, not ourselves. This is projecting our thoughts onto the reader. We do not know how other people tie their shoes. We keep away from "you" and "your" in our writing.

        We are writing a review of "our" gear based on "our" experiences. So we need to keep it in the first person. Here is how it should look;

        "When I tighten the laces on the boots, I pull the shoestrings in an out and upward motion. Then I tie it with a double knot and I'm ready to go down the trail."



        *** Some of the buckles are the "cam" type that will hold your strap tight

        EDIT: the "your" thing, see above ;-)



        *** I only occasionally need, which keeps it out of the way of binoculars, gaitors,

        EDIT: gaiters
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