REPOST- Owner Review- Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultra- Trail running shoes
- I am reposting this review as a complete re-write. My initial review was written without proper research as to what is expected. I hope this one is less of a headache for the editors. Thanks
Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultra 2 Trail Running Shoes
Name: Alex Legg
Height: 6'4" (1.93 m)
Weight: 195 lbs (88 kg)
Email address: alexlegg2@...
City, State, Country: Tucson, Arizona, USA
Date: August 20, 2011
Backpacking Background: I grew up playing in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. I have been hiking and backpacking my entire life. I currently live in Tucson, Arizona during the winter months where I hike extensively in the surrounding mountain ranges. In the summertime, I go home to Colorado where I conquer as many peaks as possible. I am out in all temperatures and weather conditions. From sweltering 100 F (56 C) plus degree days in the desert to winter snowshoeing while in Colorado over the holidays. I explore all available elevations from the desert floor around 2,000' (610 m), to the 14,000' (4,267 m) peaks of the Rockies.
Product Information and Specifications:
Year of Manufacture: 2011
Listed weight: 2 lbs (0.91kg)
Weight as delivered: 30 oz (850 g) each
Length: 13.5" (0.34 m)
Width: 4.5" (0.11 m)
The Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultra trail runners are a lightweight, breathable, and stable trail running shoe that can handle most anything except water. (They do offer a Gortex version as well.) They have a drawstring lace system that tightens around my foot in a way conventional laces just cant. The laces are made of kevlar and tighten similar to a stuff bag or back pack. The hardened rubber toe is no comparison to that of a boot, but does offer a way to minimally protect the toes while running on a very lightweight shoe. An important factor for me considering the excessively rocky terrain that dominates many of the desert mountains near Tucson. I especially like the breathable mesh lining which I can feel a breeze through on the hot Arizona days. The soles bare the Salomon brand, and are multi colored. I was surprised at the traction, figuring that only Vibrams can handle that well. I do feel that the soles are a bit softer and more flexible
than a Vibram, and that could be good at first but perhaps bad for longevity. These shoes fit me like a glove and feel as though I am not wearing anything at all. They take absolutely no time to break in and are extremely comfortable on my feet. They have great traction, and are comfortable enough to be an every day shoe.
The Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultras and I have experienced many different conditions over the past four months. From the scalding hot desert with temperatures pushing 110 F (61 C) in the summer, to the Rocky Mountain alpines in near freezing temperatures. The Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultras have preformed above my expectations in everything except extremely wet conditions. A little dry snow is fine. I have pushed these shoes on rocky terrain where every step can result in the end of your trip as well as a tough time getting home. I have also been wearing them exclusively on a daily around town basis. In this review I will discuss 3 trips where I put the Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultra trail running shoes to the test.
Pikes Peak, Colorado Springs, Colorado:
I went home to climb the 14er that has been mocking me for years. How could I have never climbed it in all this time?. It was mid July and perfect weather. Pikes Peak sits majestically above the city of Colorado Springs, Colorado, its summit standing proud at 14,110' (4,301 m ). It was 4:15 am in the morning when I turned into the Barr Trail parking lot. To my disgust the 50+ capacity lot was not only full of cars, but also what appeared to be the largest group hike expedition I have ever encountered. I was forced to turn around and park about a quarter mile down, then hike back up to the trailhead up amidst the masses of people who embark to conquer this mountain. Pikes Peak claims to be the second most visited mountain on Earth, Mount Fugi being number one. The begining of this trail is a series of steep switchbacks climbing the face of Mount Manitou. At 4:30 am this morning, there was a light show of head lamps projecting the trail
for those of us coming up to see. I bought these shoes the day before my hike. My Asolo hiking boots had been destroying my feet whenever I projected them downward. They were bothering me so much that I knew I needed an emergency fix to the situation. I came all the way out here with one main intention. I was not going to be let down and not get on top of that mountain that had been standing like a big middle finger flipping me off in every picture I looked at of my home town. I needed a pair of shoes that would need no breaking in time, and I needed them now! Did I ever find it! These shoes took zero time to break in, and you can hardly tell that they are on your feet at all. I did a quick three mile trek with my dogs the night before to get some sort of feel for these shoes that I was gambling my hike with. To my surprise, I noticed the drawstring laces were rad. It takes no time whatsoever to loosen up the laces on an easy
section of trail, letting your foot relax for a few moments before quickly tightening them again to continue up the steep incline ahead. I did 26 miles (48.86 km) with an elevation gain of 7,800' (2,377 m). 13 miles (20.93 km) up and 13 miles (20.93 km) down. I ended the day with NO blisters whatsoever! The drawstring lacing system works wonders for an impatient climber as myself. There is no way you can tie your shoe laces faster than I can tighten these. Literally in mid step, I can pull them from the pocket, clamp down on the plastic handle, and stuff them back into the pocket. I also found that the soles of the shoes held there own on everything from slick rock ,to snow, to gravel. Easily the best performing shoes I have ever worn. At the top of this mountain, there is a large gift shop and restaurant. The smell of fried food is in the air. They make doughnuts and burgers. I felt like I landed in some freaky carnival out of
some epic television drama on HBO. I crossed the train tracks of the tram that comes and goes like clockwork, delivering the eager tourists who want so desperately to take in the view at 14,110' (4,301 m), but either can't, or won't take on the journey to get there the hard way. Looking down at my feet, I was amazed at how comfortable I felt. My feet were tired, but not drained. The weight of the Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultra trail running shoe is the lightest of any shoe I have ever worn. I have been a "Boot guy" my entire life. I feel my ignorance of trail runners has cost me years of unnecessary work. Sure, boots are important if your trudging through mud and snow for ten days while carrying 60 lbs (27.22 kg) on your back, but all the day hikes and peak bagging that I have done could have been so much easier... 1 lbs (0.45 kg) on your feet is like 5 lbs (2.27 kg) on your back. I am at this point totally enamored with this shoe.
Mt Wrightson, Tucson, Arizona:
If you are a child of the mountains you will always find yourself drawn to them. This is a fact that can make living in the desert a bit depressing for a guy like me. Before I found Mt Wrightson in the Santa Rita range, about and hour south of Tucson, I was having a lot of that "Missing my Rocky Mountain blues". Although we have some good "Sky Island" mountains around here, many of them have a climb through the thick of the Sonoran desert that deem the prize of trees and cooler weather up top just plain not worth it in the summer months. Considering that the summer months last roughly half the year, I was ecstatic to find Mt Wrightson. Standing at 9,453' (2,881 m), Mt Wrightson is the highest point near Tucson. Mt. Wrightson is a great display of a "Sky Island", many Rocky Mountain plants like pine trees and columbine flowers can be found living harmoniously next to Sonoran desert plants such as occotillo and mesquite. Driving south from
Tucson that dark morning in mid August, I was greeted by a gentle monsoon storm before the sun came up. The temperature sat at a comfortable 65 F (36.1 C). I was happy. As you drive through Madera Canyon Recreation area you watch as the desert slowly disappears and gives way to pine trees and green grasses along the side the road. The trail is a fairly steep journey that feels like much more than a 10.8 mile (17.39 km) round trip. There is an annual event here called the Mt. Wrightson Massacre where competitors attempt to summit the peak as many times as possible within a twenty-four hour period. I believe the record is six summits. I wonder what kind of shoes that guy had on? This is a very rocky trail by most standards, but mild by the standards of some of the other ranges in the Tucson area. Footing is still of the most importance. I found the gripping ability to be of high caliber. These shoes fit me like they were made for
me. They are so breathable and lightweight while managing to be incredibly stable as well. They took me on a few detours to nearby springs where they traversed across steep, wet, slick rock and up and down streams. I was able to keep them relatively dry which is good because I do not have the Gortex version. All in all a good half day hike with a great pair of shoes.
Roosevelt National Forest, Lyons, Colorado:
Every summer I try to escape the desert and stay with my sister in Lyons, Colorado. Its a great area with access to unlimited peaks, some with trails, most without. Her house is bordered by Roosevelt National Forest and within a half hour drive of Rock Mountain National Park. I spent countless hours for three weeks "Billy goating" around the back country of Roosevelt. Mostly on wild game trails, and often on old mining and settlers trails, I tried to conquer as many of the nearby peaks as possible. On a daily basis I would encounter elevation changes from 5,000' (1,524 m) to 11,500' (3,3505 m), and temperatures ranging from 45 F (25 C) to 90 F (50 C). There are many steep canyons, lush with wildlife and plant life alike. Unlike my native Colorado Springs, Colorado, the creeks here are more of small rivers. They can be quite difficult to cross at times. The Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultras handled the terrain commandingly wether on or off trail,
or while trying to avoid getting wet and rock hopping. I must have completed at least 30 m (48.3 km) while I was there. I went up and down so many mountains that I found it absolutely necessary to relish in some of the good local beer that is so abundant in Lyons. At this point there is still little to no wear on the shoes except for a few scratches that are perfectly acceptable.
The Salomon XA 3D Ultra 2 trail running shoes are basically the best thing I have ever put on my feet. Super lightweight, breathable and sturdy. I couldn't ask for a better shoe. I have been wearing them exclusively for about four months now with no complaints or problems. I hike up a mountain every weekend, and I take my dogs on about a four mile walk every evening through deep sand and overgrown mesquite trees in our local washes.
3. Drawstring laces are awesome
1. Not going to last like a backpacking boot.
2. After 20 miles or so, the lightweight feature becomes a burden as I can feel every rock under my foot.
3. Not waterproof.
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- OK Alex,
This looks a lot better. Still a long way to go. Go through this and then repost again here.
EDIT: we have a 100 word limit on the bio's. Can you tighten this up a bit?
***Product Information and Specifications:
EDIT: need the size of the shoes being review listed. US Men's xx
EDIT: as Salomon does not list the MSRP this needs to just be: N/A
***The Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultra trail runners
EDIT: Salomon spells it as 3D (cap) so all of yours should be the same way.
*** (They do offer a Gortex version as well.)
EDIT: we don't share what else they have, just review what we have, so this should be cut. (Plus Gore-Tex is spelled wrong.)
***They have a drawstring lace system that tightens around my foot in a way conventional laces just cant.
Comment: Why can't regular laces tighten the same for you? They are going through the exact same points of contact. I have a few pairs of these lacing styles and it is just faster in my opinion. By the way they are called the Quick-Fit lacing system.
*** The soles bare the Salomon brand,
EDIT: The soles "bear" the Salomon "logo" or "name"
*** I was surprised at the traction, figuring that only Vibrams can handle that well. I do feel that the soles are a bit softer and more flexible than a Vibram, and that could be good at first but perhaps bad for longevity.
EDIT: we do not compare the item being reviewed to other brands. You can say that you were surprised at the amount of traction, just don't speculate on whether or not it is a good as Vibrams
***The Salomon XA Pro 3d Ultras have preformed above my expectations
*** I have pushed these shoes on rocky terrain where every step can result
in the end of your trip
EDIT: We keep everything in the first person, no "you"s, just "me" and "I". Here is my canned explanation.
"When you tighten the laces on the boots, you pull the shoestrings in an out and upward motion. Then you tie it with a double knot and you are ready to go down the trail."
This is a very common way to write, but in doing so we just said what "other people" would do, not our self. This is projecting our thoughts onto the reader. We do not know how other people tie their shoes. We keep away from "you" and "your" in our writing.
We are writing a review of "our" gear based on "our" experiences. So we need to keep it in the first person. Here is how it should look;
"When I tighten the laces on the boots, I pull the shoestrings in an out and upward motion. Then I tie it with a double knot and I'm ready to go down the trail."
Call this Field Data, or Field Conditions but not Testing as this is a review and not be confused with the actual testing we do also.
***It was 4:15 am in the morning when I turned into the Barr Trail parking lot. To my disgust the 50+ capacity lot was not only full of cars, but also what appeared to be the largest group hike expedition I have ever encountered. I was forced to turn around and park about a quarter mile down, then hike back up to the trailhead up amidst the
masses of people who embark to conquer this mountain. Pikes Peak claims to be
the second most visited mountain on Earth, Mount Fugi being number one. The
begining of this trail is a series of steep switchbacks climbing the face of
Mount Manitou. At 4:30 am this morning, there was a light show of head lamps
projecting the trail for those of us coming up to see.
EDIT: we are not supposed to write our reviews as trail journals or trip reports. We ask that the locations and pertinent data be given. Trail conditions (rocks, sand, mud, etc.) the elevations and temps/weather (rain, snow, sunny, etc.) Then the actual "review" part tells how the shoe worked for you. Take a look at this to see what I am talking about:
*** My Asolo hiking boots had been destroying my feet
EDIT: My "other" boots or, My "old" boots, no brand names please
***These shoes took zero time to break in, and you can hardly tell that they are on your feet at all.
EDIT: the "your" thing again. Please look for all instances of this.
*** I did 26 miles (48.86 km) with an elevation gain of 7,800' (2,377 m). 13 miles (20.93 km) up and 13 miles (20.93 km) down.
Edit: you can round off the km to the nearest whole number.
***Literally in mid step, I can pull them from the pocket, clamp down on the
plastic handle, and stuff them back into the pocket.
EDIT: You should explain what the pocket is you mention here, in the Product Description section, as the reader has no idea what you are talking about unless they own a pair.
***I also found that the soles of the shoes held there own
EDIT: "their" own
OK, I am going to stop for now as this is getting a bit long and let you go through it again. Fix the edits I have given and look at the rest of it considering what I have said so far.