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  • richardglyon
    Lori, All-around terrific Review – informative, interesting, thorough, and well-tested. Worth a Brownie point for sure. Just a few minor edits, in the
    Message 1 of 9 , Jan 31, 2011
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      Lori,

      All-around terrific Review – informative, interesting, thorough, and well-tested. Worth a Brownie point for sure. Just a few minor edits, in the standard format (EDIT=must be changed; Edit=requested change or clarification but up to you; Comment=just that). After revising you're cleared to upload. Be sure to check the "Owner Review" box when you do, and delete your Tests/OR folder copy.

      Cheers, Richard

      <<Materials: spunbonded olefin, aka soft structure Tyvek®; floor made of black 1.1 silicone impregnated nylon; window/vent/side netting of black nanoseeum>>
      EDIT/Edit: Tarptent's website says "no-see-um." Perhaps a tag uses "nanoseeum?" Even if so, I'd add the hyphens.

      <<Actual weight: 19.7 oz (558 g); 21.5 oz (610 g) with stakes;>>
      EDIT: Delete the final semicolon

      <<The floor is attached to the main body of the tent by straps at the corners and a noseeum mesh strip to keep out insects. >>
      EDIT: no-see-um [with hyphens]

      <<The instructions indicate that the glue, a PVA adhesive, be used to seam seal the Sublite;>>
      Edit: Since I'm not sure what these letters stand for (polyvinyl alcohol?) I'd spell it out.

      <<nor did it go away with everything taut as I could get it. >>
      Edit: as taut as I could get it

      <<I enjoyed how the Sublite let in the light without being overly bright, or becoming too warm or stuffy to lay in on a lazy morning.>>
      EDIT: lie in

      <<Since I carry a quilt rated to 20 F (-6.66 C) all year, however, this has not been a problem.>>
      Edit: I'd round off to -7 C.

      <<I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings, especially in drier climates; I suspect that it would stand up easily to short summer showers that are common in the Sierra Nevada. >>
      EDIT: As written the second part is projection. Please tweak to include a comparison based on experience. [E g, "it's already withstood sustained rain worse than the short summer showers . . ."]

      <<not a good choice if you expect to stay dry in heavy, sustained rain>>
      Edit: For consistency (all other bullet points have an initial cap) I'd capitalize "not."
    • Lori
      One question before I edit and upload. I haven t gone AWOL, by the way. I was horrifically busy with some random things last week. Beginning to feel like a
      Message 2 of 9 , Feb 13, 2011
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        One question before I edit and upload.

        I haven't gone AWOL, by the way. I was horrifically busy with some
        random things last week. Beginning to feel like a juggler with too
        many balls.

        On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:41 PM, richardglyon wrote:

        >
        > <<I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings, especially
        > in drier climates; I suspect that it would stand up easily to short
        > summer showers that are common in the Sierra Nevada. >>
        > EDIT: As written the second part is projection. Please tweak to
        > include a comparison based on experience. [E g, "it's already
        > withstood sustained rain worse than the short summer showers . . ."]
        >
        Would this rewrite suffice?

        I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings, especially in
        drier climates, or for summer showers common in the Sierra Nevada,
        following the manufacturer's recommendation that it be used for
        moderate rainfall, not sustained intense rainstorms.
      • richardglyon
        Lori, What you propose is fine. Cheers, Richard
        Message 3 of 9 , Feb 14, 2011
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          Lori,

          What you propose is fine.

          Cheers, Richard

          --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, Lori <lori.pontious@...> wrote:
          >
          > One question before I edit and upload.
          >
          > I haven't gone AWOL, by the way. I was horrifically busy with some
          > random things last week. Beginning to feel like a juggler with too
          > many balls.
          >
          > On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:41 PM, richardglyon wrote:
          >
          > >
          > > <<I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings, especially
          > > in drier climates; I suspect that it would stand up easily to short
          > > summer showers that are common in the Sierra Nevada. >>
          > > EDIT: As written the second part is projection. Please tweak to
          > > include a comparison based on experience. [E g, "it's already
          > > withstood sustained rain worse than the short summer showers . . ."]
          > >
          > Would this rewrite suffice?
          >
          > I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings, especially in
          > drier climates, or for summer showers common in the Sierra Nevada,
          > following the manufacturer's recommendation that it be used for
          > moderate rainfall, not sustained intense rainstorms.
          >
        • Eric Heath
          I think it still needs some type of personal experience. This tent stood up well against ,mild summer rain during our trip to ......... We camped 4 days and
          Message 4 of 9 , Feb 15, 2011
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            I think it still needs some type of "personal" experience. "This tent stood up well against ,mild summer rain during our trip to ......... We camped 4 days and had rain, wind, sunny weather etc." All my gera and the inside of the tent stayed dry and yet ventilated......"
            Something that shows the reader you might have actually used the tent somewhere besides the living room. Cheers!




            [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          • Lori
            Delay of game. I don t see a folder for the Tyvek version.
            Message 5 of 9 , Feb 19, 2011
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              Delay of game. I don't see a folder for the Tyvek version.

              On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:41 PM, richardglyon wrote:

              >
              > Lori,
              >
              > All-around terrific Review – informative, interesting, thorough,
              > and well-tested. Worth a Brownie point for sure. Just a few minor
              > edits, in the standard format (EDIT=must be changed; Edit=requested
              > change or clarification but up to you; Comment=just that). After
              > revising you're cleared to upload. Be sure to check the "Owner
              > Review" box when you do, and delete your Tests/OR folder copy.
              >
              > Cheers, Richard
              >
              > <<Materials: spunbonded olefin, aka soft structure Tyvek®; floor
              > made of black 1.1 silicone impregnated nylon; window/vent/side
              > netting of black nanoseeum>>
              > EDIT/Edit: Tarptent's website says "no-see-um." Perhaps a tag uses
              > "nanoseeum?" Even if so, I'd add the hyphens.
              >
              > <<Actual weight: 19.7 oz (558 g); 21.5 oz (610 g) with stakes;>>
              > EDIT: Delete the final semicolon
              >
              > <<The floor is attached to the main body of the tent by straps at
              > the corners and a noseeum mesh strip to keep out insects. >>
              > EDIT: no-see-um [with hyphens]
              >
              > <<The instructions indicate that the glue, a PVA adhesive, be used
              > to seam seal the Sublite;>>
              > Edit: Since I'm not sure what these letters stand for (polyvinyl
              > alcohol?) I'd spell it out.
              >
              > <<nor did it go away with everything taut as I could get it. >>
              > Edit: as taut as I could get it
              >
              > <<I enjoyed how the Sublite let in the light without being overly
              > bright, or becoming too warm or stuffy to lay in on a lazy morning.>>
              > EDIT: lie in
              >
              > <<Since I carry a quilt rated to 20 F (-6.66 C) all year, however,
              > this has not been a problem.>>
              > Edit: I'd round off to -7 C.
              >
              > <<I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings, especially
              > in drier climates; I suspect that it would stand up easily to short
              > summer showers that are common in the Sierra Nevada. >>
              > EDIT: As written the second part is projection. Please tweak to
              > include a comparison based on experience. [E g, "it's already
              > withstood sustained rain worse than the short summer showers . . ."]
              >
              > <<not a good choice if you expect to stay dry in heavy, sustained
              > rain>>
              > Edit: For consistency (all other bullet points have an initial cap)
              > I'd capitalize "not."
              >
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            • Lori
              Did you read the whole report????
              Message 6 of 9 , Feb 20, 2011
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                Did you read the whole report????


                On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Eric Heath wrote:

                >
                > I think it still needs some type of "personal" experience. "This
                > tent stood up well against ,mild summer rain during our trip
                > to ......... We camped 4 days and had rain, wind, sunny weather
                > etc." All my gera and the inside of the tent stayed dry and yet
                > ventilated......"
                > Something that shows the reader you might have actually used the
                > tent somewhere besides the living room. Cheers!
                >
                > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                >
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              • richardglyon
                Lori, good catch. Now at http://tinyurl.com/4gywjbh Cheers, Richard
                Message 7 of 9 , Feb 20, 2011
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                  Lori, good catch. Now at http://tinyurl.com/4gywjbh

                  Cheers, Richard

                  --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, Lori <lori.pontious@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Delay of game. I don't see a folder for the Tyvek version.
                  >
                  > On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:41 PM, richardglyon wrote:
                  >
                  > >
                  > > Lori,
                  > >
                  > > All-around terrific Review – informative, interesting, thorough,
                  > > and well-tested. Worth a Brownie point for sure. Just a few minor
                  > > edits, in the standard format (EDIT=must be changed; Edit=requested
                  > > change or clarification but up to you; Comment=just that). After
                  > > revising you're cleared to upload. Be sure to check the "Owner
                  > > Review" box when you do, and delete your Tests/OR folder copy.
                  > >
                  > > Cheers, Richard
                  > >
                  > > <<Materials: spunbonded olefin, aka soft structure Tyvek®; floor
                  > > made of black 1.1 silicone impregnated nylon; window/vent/side
                  > > netting of black nanoseeum>>
                  > > EDIT/Edit: Tarptent's website says "no-see-um." Perhaps a tag uses
                  > > "nanoseeum?" Even if so, I'd add the hyphens.
                  > >
                  > > <<Actual weight: 19.7 oz (558 g); 21.5 oz (610 g) with stakes;>>
                  > > EDIT: Delete the final semicolon
                  > >
                  > > <<The floor is attached to the main body of the tent by straps at
                  > > the corners and a noseeum mesh strip to keep out insects. >>
                  > > EDIT: no-see-um [with hyphens]
                  > >
                  > > <<The instructions indicate that the glue, a PVA adhesive, be used
                  > > to seam seal the Sublite;>>
                  > > Edit: Since I'm not sure what these letters stand for (polyvinyl
                  > > alcohol?) I'd spell it out.
                  > >
                  > > <<nor did it go away with everything taut as I could get it. >>
                  > > Edit: as taut as I could get it
                  > >
                  > > <<I enjoyed how the Sublite let in the light without being overly
                  > > bright, or becoming too warm or stuffy to lay in on a lazy morning.>>
                  > > EDIT: lie in
                  > >
                  > > <<Since I carry a quilt rated to 20 F (-6.66 C) all year, however,
                  > > this has not been a problem.>>
                  > > Edit: I'd round off to -7 C.
                  > >
                  > > <<I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings, especially
                  > > in drier climates; I suspect that it would stand up easily to short
                  > > summer showers that are common in the Sierra Nevada. >>
                  > > EDIT: As written the second part is projection. Please tweak to
                  > > include a comparison based on experience. [E g, "it's already
                  > > withstood sustained rain worse than the short summer showers . . ."]
                  > >
                  > > <<not a good choice if you expect to stay dry in heavy, sustained
                  > > rain>>
                  > > Edit: For consistency (all other bullet points have an initial cap)
                  > > I'd capitalize "not."
                  > >
                  > >
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                • Lori
                  Thank you! uploaded and done. :) and thank you for your time editing. Lori
                  Message 8 of 9 , Feb 20, 2011
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                    Thank you! uploaded and done. :) and thank you for your time editing.

                    Lori

                    On Feb 20, 2011, at 10:48 AM, richardglyon wrote:

                    >
                    > Lori, good catch. Now at http://tinyurl.com/4gywjbh
                    >
                    > Cheers, Richard
                    >
                    > --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, Lori <lori.pontious@...>
                    > wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Delay of game. I don't see a folder for the Tyvek version.
                    > >
                    > > On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:41 PM, richardglyon wrote:
                    > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Lori,
                    > > >
                    > > > All-around terrific Review – informative, interesting, thorough,
                    > > > and well-tested. Worth a Brownie point for sure. Just a few minor
                    > > > edits, in the standard format (EDIT=must be changed;
                    > Edit=requested
                    > > > change or clarification but up to you; Comment=just that). After
                    > > > revising you're cleared to upload. Be sure to check the "Owner
                    > > > Review" box when you do, and delete your Tests/OR folder copy.
                    > > >
                    > > > Cheers, Richard
                    > > >
                    > > > <<Materials: spunbonded olefin, aka soft structure Tyvek®; floor
                    > > > made of black 1.1 silicone impregnated nylon; window/vent/side
                    > > > netting of black nanoseeum>>
                    > > > EDIT/Edit: Tarptent's website says "no-see-um." Perhaps a tag uses
                    > > > "nanoseeum?" Even if so, I'd add the hyphens.
                    > > >
                    > > > <<Actual weight: 19.7 oz (558 g); 21.5 oz (610 g) with stakes;>>
                    > > > EDIT: Delete the final semicolon
                    > > >
                    > > > <<The floor is attached to the main body of the tent by straps at
                    > > > the corners and a noseeum mesh strip to keep out insects. >>
                    > > > EDIT: no-see-um [with hyphens]
                    > > >
                    > > > <<The instructions indicate that the glue, a PVA adhesive, be used
                    > > > to seam seal the Sublite;>>
                    > > > Edit: Since I'm not sure what these letters stand for (polyvinyl
                    > > > alcohol?) I'd spell it out.
                    > > >
                    > > > <<nor did it go away with everything taut as I could get it. >>
                    > > > Edit: as taut as I could get it
                    > > >
                    > > > <<I enjoyed how the Sublite let in the light without being overly
                    > > > bright, or becoming too warm or stuffy to lay in on a lazy
                    > morning.>>
                    > > > EDIT: lie in
                    > > >
                    > > > <<Since I carry a quilt rated to 20 F (-6.66 C) all year, however,
                    > > > this has not been a problem.>>
                    > > > Edit: I'd round off to -7 C.
                    > > >
                    > > > <<I will continue to use the Sublite for summer outings,
                    > especially
                    > > > in drier climates; I suspect that it would stand up easily to
                    > short
                    > > > summer showers that are common in the Sierra Nevada. >>
                    > > > EDIT: As written the second part is projection. Please tweak to
                    > > > include a comparison based on experience. [E g, "it's already
                    > > > withstood sustained rain worse than the short summer
                    > showers . . ."]
                    > > >
                    > > > <<not a good choice if you expect to stay dry in heavy, sustained
                    > > > rain>>
                    > > > Edit: For consistency (all other bullet points have an initial
                    > cap)
                    > > > I'd capitalize "not."
                    > > >
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                  • Edward
                    Having read Lori s report thoroughly, Eric s criticism is unwarranted. She describes a wide range of field conditions. She offers masses of field data of the
                    Message 9 of 9 , Feb 26, 2011
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                      Having read Lori's report thoroughly, Eric's criticism is unwarranted. She describes a wide range of field conditions. She offers masses of field data of the kind that he feels is missing.

                      In general, on this list member comments are NOT encouraged. It interfered with the work of the editors.

                      Ted

                      Senior Edit Moderator

                      --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, Lori <lori.pontious@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Did you read the whole report????
                      >
                      >
                      > On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Eric Heath wrote:
                      >
                      > >
                      > > I think it still needs some type of "personal" experience. "This
                      > > tent stood up well against ,mild summer rain during our trip
                      > > to ......... We camped 4 days and had rain, wind, sunny weather
                      > > etc." All my gera and the inside of the tent stayed dry and yet
                      > > ventilated......"
                      > > Something that shows the reader you might have actually used the
                      > > tent somewhere besides the living room. Cheers!
                      > >
                      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                      >
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