REPOST, Danner 453 GTX Hiking Boots - Tim Earley
I forgot the proper subject line last time so if you didn't get it, the
edits are below.
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From: Tim Earley <timothy.earley@...>
Date: Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [BackpackGearTest] EDIT - Danner 453 GTX Hiking Boots - Tim
Here you go, edits as requested. I believe I got them all. I really
need to watch out for those metric conversions, I had the same issue last
time. I believe the link below is clickable as I used the link tool. If
it's not, I'll be sure to make the html version clickable. Please let me
know if there's anything else you see.
*Danner 453 GTX Hiking Boots*
Name: Tim Earley
Height: 6' 0"/ 1.80 m
Weight: 185 lb/ 84 kg
Email address: timothy.earley AT gmail.com
City, State, Country: Yonkers, New York, USA
*Backpacking Background: *
My first exposure to backpacking was about seven years ago in the Army where
I learned everything I needed to learn about being comfortable in the
wilderness with little to no �comfort gear.� I primarily do day hikes now,
with the occasional overnight jaunt thrown in whenever possible. I consider
myself a lightweight packer, though not a minimalist. My favorite hikes are
those that have significant elevation change as these provide the best
views, most challenge and best reward. I am most comfortable in cool to
cold weather as I tend to overheat in other seasons.
Manufacturer: Danner Boots
Model: 453 GTX
Sizes: 6-14; size 12 reviewed
Widths: D-EE; width D reviewed
Year of Manufacture: 2008-2009
Listed weight: 48 oz (1360 g) per pair
Measured weight: 51 oz (1446 g) for size 12 pair
Fabric Content: Nubuck Leather Fabric with GORE-TEX lining
Country of Manufacture: USA
*Product Description: *
The Danner 453 GTX hiking boots are GORE-TEX-lined leather hiking boots.
They come in either dark tan or light tan coloring. The upper comes up
about one inch (2.54 cm) past the ankle, providing good ankle support. The
laces are standard boot laces run through six pairs of eyelets. The last
eyelet is just about at the top of the boot, allowing the wearer to tighten
down the top nicely. The tongue is connected to the boot on either side
except for the top one inch (2.54 cm), preventing water from seeping in.
The toe cap is a tough rubber material that not only prevents scuffing, but
provides quite a bit of protection against rocks and other potential toe
busters. Danner put a TERRA FORCE sole on the boot which is supposed to be
lightweight yet durable. The tread on the heel is reversed to provide
traction and prevent slipping while going downhill (as shown in the picture
*Field Conditions: *
I have used these boots in temperatures ranging from 10 F (-15 C) to 80 F
(27 C). I've worn them on about twenty separate trips totaling at least 150
miles (241 km). They have also seen everything from driving rain to deep
sloppy mud to snow. They have proven to be reliably weatherproof and
provide surprisingly good traction in the snow and mud. The breathability,
however, is not what I had expected. In weather above 60 F (16 C) my feet
get quite warm and sweaty. But in cooler weather, they are toasty warm.
While the boots are not insulated, they do seem to keep my feet pretty warm
with a good pair of wool socks on. With that said, I believe they will make
a fine pair of snowshoeing boots.
I have lots military experience with Danner products and have always been
impressed. I ordered these boots with confidence online after reading some
great reviews. When I first received them the first thing I noticed was how
big the box was. I mean this box was HUGE for a pair of size 12 boots. I
thought they were the wrong size but they were the size 12 that I ordered.
I soon found out that the reason the box was so big is because these boots
are not just average hiking boots. In fact, I think they fall exclusively
into the realm of backpacking boots. They feature thick, tough ankle
support and a toe box that should protect the wearer's feet from anything
but a deliberate boulder punt. There�s even some protective soft plastic to
protect the heel from, say, a deliberate boulder back-kick? There don�t
seem to be any places where Danner sacrificed durability for weight, and I
appreciate that in footwear. I felt very confident that these boots would
be appropriate for me, as I have a life long history of ankle injuries and
require appropriate ankle support in my footwear.
When I put the boots on for the first time I noticed they were, as expected,
quite stiff. I was a little disappointed in the lacing system as it is sort
of bulky and awkward, especially with the stock laces in. The stock laces
seemed to bind a bit whenever I tried to tighten them. These laces were
very low quality, basically glorified shoe laces. I replaced them with
lengths of parachute cord and couldn�t be happier. Parachute cord has a way
of gliding through eyelets a lot better than normal shoe or boot laces.
I trudged around in the boots for a couple hours and went up and down some
steps to test for fit and inevitable hot spots. I didn�t find any hot spots
although I did feel some slipping in the heel. This really concerned me and
I thought about returning them. But I decided to give them a quick day hike
to see if it was something that could be broken in as they were extremely
stiff and I figured I could soften the material up. The day hike ended with
me being undecided. They were supportive and durable for sure, but they
were going to take a LONG time to break in. And being the genius I am, I
got them filthy on the first hike out. So much for returning for a smaller
To make a long story short, they broke in after a couple more hikes totaling
an estimated 15 to 20 miles (24 to 32 km) and they fit great now, although I
have to say, the right boot still slips ever so slightly in the heel. This
is not nearly enough to cause a hot spot, just a sensation that the right
boot is barely too big. My right foot seems to be in between Danner's
sizes. I�m currently using the original footbeds and plan on trying an
aftermarket footbed to alleviate this problem.
These are my default footwear rain or shine, summer or winter because of my
ankles. They have seen somewhere on the order of 150 (241 km) miles so far
and have saved my ankles on several occasions. Sometimes my fiance and I
will be in the woods and I�ll say �Yep, would have broken my ankle again if
I didn�t have good boots!� So I�m grateful for the support.
These boots also feature a GORE-TEX laminate for waterproofing. The boots
are sealed right up to about the top of the tongue. No water getting in the
sides. I stood in ankle deep water in a creek picking crawfish out from
under rocks for about 45 minutes without a drop of water in my boots.
Unfortunately, the boots were not able to protect me from forgetting to take
my pack off while leaning over rocks, losing my balance and falling into
waist deep water only to find my fiance laughing so hard she�s crying. I�ve
found that only time can heal that wound.
The soles at first had very poor traction on wet rocks but that went away
once I seemed to wear through the surface of the sole. There must have been
some coating left over from the manufacturing process. Beware, they aren�t
just sort of slippery, they�re EXTREMELY slippery on wet rocks to start. So
much so that I could imagine hurting myself pretty badly. Like I said this
goes away, but be warned.
Overall I have been pleased with the performance of these boots. I prefer
tougher, slightly heavier boots over some of the more �ultralight� boots
available. These fit that bill well. They provide great ankle support for
backpacking with up to a 40 lb (18 kg) pack. They are reliably weatherproof
and provide plenty of warmth while on the move on cold days. The additional
warmth disappears once I stop moving for more than a couple of minutes as I
think it�s a function of the mediocre breathability more than anything else.
The soles strike a good balance between rigidity and flexibility. They are
rigid enough to provide good edging on rocks but flexible enough to be
comfortable over a long day of hiking. The soles also provide good traction
(aside from the aforementioned slippery rocks), even going downhill.
As I�ve said, the breathability is mediocre. In cool enough weather (or
slow enough activity, for that matter) they are very comfortable and breathe
more than well enough. However, if I up the tempo a bit (or go out on a
warmer day) I do feel some dampness in the boots. I wouldn�t attribute this
to these particular boots as I�ve experienced the same with GORE-TEX jackets
and pants. It�s just part of the deal with GORE-TEX I suppose. In any
case, they breath far better than a pair of rubber boots!
The boots seem to be holding up very well as I truly beat my boots up pretty
badly. There are nothing more than some aesthetic scars and maybe some
staining of the leather from moisture. The toecaps have provided ample
protection for my toes and are no worse for the wear.
I have to comment on another unexpected aspect of these boots. When wearing
them recently on a snowy backpacking trip, I noticed they did a very good
job of keep snow off my feet. What I mean by that is that while snow will
get in over the top, the boots seem to cinch down just above the ankles
(almost like a draft collar on a sleeping bag), preventing any from actually
getting to my feet. Surely not a substitute for gaiters as I still had to
wipe the snow out, but I was unprepared and it was nice to know I wasn't
going to have chunks of snow under my feet all day.
These boots have been exactly what I expected. They are tough, durable and
supportive. They provide all the protection that my feet and ankles require
and give me a good grip on all types of ground. However, this amount of
protection comes at the price of increased weight and mediocre
I would recommend these boots to anyone with weak or injured ankles looking
for a boot appropriate for year round use, as long as they don�t mind a bit
of sweat in the warmer months. I look forward to snowshoeing with these
boots and will continue to use them until they fall apart.
1. Ankle support is great
2. Completely weatherproof
3. Good multi-direction traction (after initial break in period)
1. Incredibly slippery on wet rock to start. Take some sandpaper to the
soles to start.
2. Breathability is barely adequate in warmer weather.
3. The stock laces simply stink. Replace them with parachute cord.
On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:48 PM, richardglyon <montana.angler@...>wrote:
> Tim, This has the makings of a very good review on a product I know well,
> having worn a pair for many years until they wore out. I have some edits, in
> the customary format � EDIT (all caps) is a required change; Edit (initial
> cap) is a suggested change or request for clarification, and Comment is just
> that, with no change required. Before getting to those, however, I have an
> overarching EDIT (required change) dictated by Chapter 6 of the BGT Survival
> Guide: please re-arrange your review so that the Field Information precedes
> your evaluation. This is more than rote adherence to the rules; it'll make
> the review more readable, as much of your evaluation depends on the field
> conditions you faced.
> When you have revised your Review, repost the plain text in this space with
> "REPOST," the product name, and your name in the subject line. Post the html
> formatted report in the Tests/Owner Reviews folder with a link (preferably
> tinyurl or snipurl format) in the plain text.
> Cheers, Richard
> <<Email address: timothy.earley@...>>
> Edit: You may wish to make this non-clickable, to frustrate spammers.
> <<Manufacturer: Danner>>
> EDIT: Here you should use its full name: Danner Boots
> <<Sizes: 6-14; size 12 reviewed>>
> Edit: Consider adding that these boots are available in D and EE widths,
> and stating which you wear. Few bootmakers offer a choice of widths, and a
> narrow-footed reader (like me) would find this useful.
> EDIT: This needs to be a clickable link.
> <<Listed weight: 48 oz (1360 g)>>
> EDIT: Indicate that this is per pair.
> <<The Danner 453 GTX hiking boots are GORE-TEX lined leather hiking
> Edit: GORE-TEX-lined [with a hyphen]
> <<They come in either dark tan or light tan coloring. The upper comes up
> about one inch past the ankle, providing good ankle support. >>
> << The tongue is connected to the boot on either side except for
> the top inch, >>
> EDIT: Need a metric conversion after "one inch" and "top inch
> <<To make a long story short, they broke in after a couple more hikes and
> they fit great now, although I have to say, the right boot still slips ever
> so slightly in the heel. >>
> EDIT: Indicate the approximate mileage it took to break in the boots. Don't
> forget a metric conversion.
> Edit: Somewhere in your Review you might mention whether you are using
> Danner's footbeds or aftermarket ones.
> Comment: A good aftermarket footbed might fix that slippage.
> << They have seen somewhere on the order of 150 miles so far>>
> EDIT: Need a metric conversion.
> << Perhaps roughing the soles up before use will prevent this.>>
> EDIT: We don't allow "projection" � speculating about what might happen to
> another wearer or what a possible fix might do. Delete this sentence,
> especially since you make your point in your Likes and Dislikes below.
> <<I have used these boots in temperatures ranging from 10 degrees
> Fahrenheit (-15 degrees Celsius) to 80 degrees Fahrenheit (27 degrees
> Celsius). >>
> EDIT: BGT's convention on temperatures is to use F and C and not to use the
> word "degrees." 10 F (-15 C) and 80 F (27 C). Fix the other temperatures
> listed in your Review in the same manner.
> << I've worn them on about twenty separate trips totaling at least 150
> miles (conservative estimate).>>
> EDIT: Need metric conversion.
> << With that said, I believe they will make a fine pair of snowshoeing
> boots.> about>
> EDIT: More projection. Please delete.
> << They provide great ankle support for backpacking with up to a 40 lb
> EDIT: Add metric conversion.
> << they are very comfortable and breath more than well enough.>>
> EDIT: breathe [spelling]
> << There are nothing more than some asthetic scars>>
> EDIT: aesthetic [spelling]
> << Surely not a substitute for gaiters as I still had to wipe the snow out,
> but I was unprepared it was nice to know I wasn't going to have chunks of
> snow under my feet all day.>>
> EDIT: There's a word missing. Add "as" after "but" (or "and" after
> << They would also be appropriate for anyone who uses lightweight footwear
> in warmer months and is looking for more substantial cool weather footwear.
> EDIT: More projection. You can't report on another person's likes or
> dislikes. Please delete.
> <<3. Good multi-direction traction (after inital break in period)>>
> EDIT: initial [spelling]
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