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  • David Anderson
    Just wondering how you got that result? What did you write it in and how did you send it? What I do is write the report in an HTML editor and save the file.
    Message 1 of 12 , Feb 1, 2002
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      Just wondering how you got that result? What did you write it in and how did
      you send it?

      What I do is write the report in an HTML editor and save the file. Then I go
      into my browser and open the file. I select (highlight) the whole thing and
      copy and paste it into my e-mail program.

      This gives me a plain text version of my report for the mailing list.

      By the way I noticed that your report has a bunch of IMG tags. I think you
      used a fancy bullet point. Could you switch it back to normal bullets?

      Dave

      Asyndeton Canaan Dogs writes:

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      > Well, I failed my first email review attempt. I promise I did read the
      > instructions. Advice would be welcome!
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    • Jerry Goller
      The easiest way, for me, to handle this when I have a report that must be both emailed to the list and uploaded to the files is to create it as an HTML as we
      Message 2 of 12 , Feb 1, 2002
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        The easiest way, for me, to handle this when I have a report that must be both emailed to the list and uploaded to the files is to create it as an HTML as we discussed, then open a blank email message addressed to this group. Open the original report in it’s HTML format and go to “Edit” on the top tool bar. From that drop down menu select “Select All”, then “Copy”. Go back to your new blank email message, drop down the “Edit” menu and select “Paste”. It will drop the text of your report into the email. Send it. Any problems or questions, let me know.

        Jerry

        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest : the most comprehensive interactive gear reviews and tests on the planet.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Asyndeton Canaan Dogs [mailto:asyndeton@...]
        Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:26 PM
        To:
        BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [BackpackGearTest] Owner Review #1 Patagonia SW base layer bottoms

         


        <HTML>
        <HEAD>

        <TITLE> </TITLE>

        </HEAD>
        <BODY TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000ff">

        <B><FONT FACE="Arial"><P>Patagonia Women's Capilene & reg; Silk Weight
        Bottoms </P><DIR>

        </B></FONT><FONT FACE="Garamond"><P>Capilene Silk weight is marketed by
        Patagonia as being their fastest wicking, fastest drying and sleekest
        base layer, providing thermal regulation in sun and wind. Layer under
        endurance shells in cool or cold weather. </P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;3.5-oz. Capilene
        microdenier polyester.</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp; 128 g. (4.5 oz.).</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;Gusseted Crotch.</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;Size large</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp; Color black</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;Made in (approx.)
        1999</P>
        <P>&nbsp;</P>
        <P>When I picked these bottoms out, I originally didn't have
        hiking/backpacking in mind as I am a cold weather weenie. I bought them
        for agility trialing, plus any other outdoor sports I desired to do. I
        was looking for a close fitting base layer that would stay put during
        any bursts of activity, and would wick sweat and dry quickly. I normally
        wouldn't buy an artificial fabric to wear, but I seem to be constrained
        by being generally poor, punctuated by moments of abject poverty, I was
        a little strapped for cash, and in a hurry as well, so I went with
        these.</P>
        <P>&nbsp;</P>
        <P>Two things I noted right off... The Large aren't long enough for my
        5'10" women's legs, so there is a gap of about 2" from my ankles, which
        I despise; and there is no elastic at the bottom to keep them in place,
        just self fabric hems. The XL are far too baggy to be a good layering
        candidate for me. Despite the ankle gap they are quite comfortable,
        especially with long socks, unless you are doing any sort of climbing,
        including stairs. At this point, the  bottom of the legs started to
        creep up my calves a bit, giving about a 3.5" gap at my ankles.</P>
        <P>&nbsp;</P>
        <P>I have  had the opportunity to wear them in a variety of conditions,
        for my area (Memphis, TN). I worn them hiking through Shelby Forest
        (moderately hilly), as well as along a bit of Natchez Trace.
        Additionally I have worn them on some rather cold days (for the
        Mid-South) where my activity was limited. If you are active, and have
        some manner to keep the ankles down,  or aren't doing much knee-lifting
        climbing, they will do fine in moderately cool-cold weather, say
        somewhere in the range of 40-30 degrees, if you tolerate cold weather
        better than I do, you could probably go a bit colder. Standing around,
        however, they were only slightly better than being naked, okay, quite a
        bit better than being naked, but not amazingly better than the jeans I
        was wearing over them. It was 45 degrees, no sun and fairly windy. I
        have been caught in the rain with them, and they do dry quickly. They
        are also quite comfortable to wear in moderate weather, as they do wick
        sweat, and stay comfortable while running. They are also not bad when
        the weather could cover a wide range of temps, as Memphis is prone to
        do. They have been comfortable up to about 60 degrees, being about as
        warm as I could stand with them on.</P>
        <P>They say that you can wear them alone, and comfort wise I think you
        could, but they are VERY form fitting, and I don't care for that kind of
        exposure. </P>
        <P>All in all, I do like having them, and they have held up to quite a
        bit of wear without pilling, they still look pretty good, and if they
        were just a bit longer, I'd say for moderately cool/cold weather, they
        are a good product.</P>
        <P>&nbsp;</P>
        <P>Contact info: </FONT><A HREF="http://www.patagonia.com/"><FONT
        FACE="Garamond"></A></P>

        <P>My Specs:</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;Kelly Riggs</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;31, 5'10", 150#,
        female</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;Memphis, TN</P>
        <P><IMG SRC="Image2.gif" WIDTH=17 HEIGHT=17>&nbsp;Novice hiker, Novice
        backpacker, occasional runner, agility &amp; herding participant</P>
        </FONT><B><FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE=2></DIR>
        </B></FONT></BODY>
        </HTML>


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      • Asyndeton Canaan Dogs
        Patagonia Women s Capilene® SilkWeight Bottoms Capilene Silkweight is marketed by Patagonia as being their fastest-wicking, fastest-drying and sleekest base
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          Patagonia Women's Capilene® SilkWeight Bottoms

          Capilene Silkweight is marketed by Patagonia as being their
          fastest-wicking, fastest-drying and
          sleekest base layer, providing thermal regulation in sun and wind.
          Layer under endurance shells in cool
          or cold weather.

          3.5-oz. Capilene microdenier polyester.

          128 g. (4.5 oz.).
          Gusseted Crotch.
          Size large
          Color black



          Made in (approx.) 1999

          When I picked these bottoms out, I originally didn't have
          hiking/backpacking in mind as I am a cold
          weather weenie. I bought them for agility trialing, plus any other
          outdoor sports I desired to do. I was
          looking for a close fitting base layer that would stay put during
          any bursts of activity, and would wick
          sweat and dry quickly. I normally wouldn't buy an artificial fabric
          to wear, but I seem to be
          constrained by being generally poor, punctuated by moments of
          abject poverty, I was a little strapped
          for cash, and in a hurry as well, so I went with these.



          Two things I noted right off... The Large aren't long enough for my
          5'10" women's legs, so there is a
          gap of about 2" from my ankles, which I despise; and there is no
          elastic at the bottom to keep them in
          place, just self fabric hems. The XL are far too baggy to be a good
          layering candidate for me. Despite
          the ankle gap they are quite comfortable, especially with long
          socks, unless you are doing any sort of
          climbing, including stairs. At this point, the bottom of the legs
          started to creep up my calves a bit,
          giving about a 3.5" gap at my ankles.



          I have had the opportunity to wear them in a variety of conditions,
          for my area (Memphis, TN). I
          worn them hiking through Shelby Forest (moderately hilly), as well
          as along a bit of Natchez Trace.
          Additionally I have worn them on some rather cold days (for the
          Mid-South) where my activity was
          limited. If you are active, and have some manner to keep the ankles
          down, or aren't doing much
          knee-lifting climbing, they will do fine in moderately cool-cold
          weather, say somewhere in the range of
          40-30 degrees, if you tolerate cold weather better than I do, you
          could probably go a bit colder.
          Standing around, however, they were only slightly better than being
          naked, okay, quite a bit better
          than being naked, but not amazingly better than the jeans I was
          wearing over them. It was 45 degrees,
          no sun and fairly windy. I have been caught in the rain with them,
          and they do dry quickly. They are
          also quite comfortable to wear in moderate weather, as they do wick
          sweat, and stay comfortable
          while running. They are also not bad when the weather could cover a
          wide range of temps, as
          Memphis is prone to do. They have been comfortable up to about 60
          degrees, being about as warm as
          I could stand with them on.

          They say that you can wear them alone, and comfort wise I think you
          could, but they are VERY form
          fitting, and I don't care for that kind of exposure.

          All in all, I do like having them, and they have held up to quite a
          bit of wear without pilling, they still
          look pretty good, and if they were just a bit longer, I'd say for
          moderately cool/cold weather, they are
          a good product.



          Contact info: http://www.patagonia.com/



          My Specs:

          Kelly Riggs, 31, 5'10", 150#, female, reside in Memphis, TN, Novice
          hiker, Novice backpacker,
          occasional runner, agility, herding, and other assorted dog sport
          participant.
        • David Anderson
          But that s assuming the use of outlook instead of what looks like (from the info in the header) netscape mail. Dave
          Message 4 of 12 , Feb 1, 2002
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            But that's assuming the use of outlook instead of what looks like (from the
            info in the header) netscape mail.

            Dave

            Jerry Goller writes:

            > The easiest way, for me, to handle this when I have a report that must
            > be both emailed to the list and uploaded to the files is to create it as
            > an HTML as we discussed, then open a blank email message addressed to
            > this group. Open the original report in it's HTML format and go to
            > "Edit" on the top tool bar. From that drop down menu select "Select
            > All", then "Copy". Go back to your new blank email message, drop down
            > the "Edit" menu and select "Paste". It will drop the text of your report
            > into the email. Send it. Any problems or questions, let me know.
            >
            > Jerry
          • Jerry Goller
            True. She contacted me off list about another issue. I found out she was using Word2000 and had limited computer experience. I just assumed she was using
            Message 5 of 12 , Feb 1, 2002
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              True. She contacted me off list about another issue. I found out she was using Word2000 and had limited computer experience. I just assumed she was using Outlook or Outlook Express. Assumptions can get you into trouble….    ;o) Thanks for pointing that out. I normally do it the way you described but I was trying to keep it as simple as possible.

              Jerry

               

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              -----Original Message-----
              From:
              David Anderson [mailto:squtch@...]
              Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:16 PM
              To:
              BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Owner Review #1 Patagonia SW base layer bottoms

               

              But that's assuming the use of outlook instead of what looks like (from the
              info in the header) netscape mail.

              Dave

              Jerry Goller writes:

              > The easiest way, for me, to handle this when I have a report that must
              > be both emailed to the list and uploaded to the files is to create it as
              > an HTML as we discussed, then open a blank email message addressed to
              > this group. Open the original report in it's HTML format and go to
              > "Edit" on the top tool bar. From that drop down menu select "Select
              > All", then "Copy". Go back to your new blank email message, drop down
              > the "Edit" menu and select "Paste". It will drop the text of your report
              > into the email. Send it. Any problems or questions, let me know.
              >
              > Jerry


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            • Jerry Goller
              It still has some interesting formatting issues though... Jerry http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest : the most comprehensive interactive gear
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                It still has some interesting formatting issues though…….

                Jerry

                 

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                -----Original Message-----
                From: Asyndeton Canaan Dogs [mailto:asyndeton@...]
                Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:13 PM
                To:
                BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Owner Review #1 Patagonia SW base layer bottoms

                 

                Patagonia Women's Capilene® SilkWeight Bottoms

                     Capilene Silkweight is marketed by Patagonia as being their
                fastest-wicking, fastest-drying and
                     sleekest base layer, providing thermal regulation in sun and wind.
                Layer under endurance shells in cool
                     or cold weather.

                     3.5-oz. Capilene microdenier polyester.

                     128 g. (4.5 oz.).
                     Gusseted Crotch.
                     Size large
                     Color black

                 

              • David Anderson
                I m guessing that it s just from the copy and the e-mail program not handling the word wrap very well. It s putting space in at the beginning of each line in
                Message 7 of 12 , Feb 1, 2002
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                  I'm guessing that it's just from the copy and the e-mail program not
                  handling the word wrap very well. It's putting space in at the beginning of
                  each line in the e-mail program and then wrapping at column 72. I don't
                  think they will show up in the report.

                  I just tired it in netscape and didn't have that problem myself on my w2k
                  system but I seem to remember some issues something like that with 95 or 98.
                  I'll have to dig up an old laptop later and give it a try.

                  Dave


                  Jerry Goller writes:

                  > It still has some interesting formatting issues though...
                  >
                  > Jerry
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest : the most comprehensive
                  > interactive gear reviews and tests on the planet.
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: Asyndeton Canaan Dogs [mailto:asyndeton@...]
                  > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:13 PM
                  > To: BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: Re: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Owner Review #1 Patagonia SW base
                  > layer bottoms
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Patagonia Women's CapileneR SilkWeight Bottoms
                  >
                  > Capilene Silkweight is marketed by Patagonia as being their
                  > fastest-wicking, fastest-drying and
                  > sleekest base layer, providing thermal regulation in sun and wind.
                  > Layer under endurance shells in cool
                  > or cold weather.
                  >
                  > 3.5-oz. Capilene microdenier polyester.
                  >
                  > 128 g. (4.5 oz.).
                  > Gusseted Crotch.
                  > Size large
                  > Color black
                  >
                  >
                  >
                • Asyndeton Canaan Dogs
                  Well, I am using 98 due to some driver issues that have yet to be resolved. K ... -- Kelly Riggs Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so
                  Message 8 of 12 , Feb 1, 2002
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                    Well, I am using 98 due to some driver issues that have yet to be
                    resolved.

                    K

                    David Anderson wrote:
                    >
                    > I'm guessing that it's just from the copy and the e-mail program not
                    > handling the word wrap very well. It's putting space in at the beginning of
                    > each line in the e-mail program and then wrapping at column 72. I don't
                    > think they will show up in the report.
                    >
                    > I just tired it in netscape and didn't have that problem myself on my w2k
                    > system but I seem to remember some issues something like that with 95 or 98.
                    > I'll have to dig up an old laptop later and give it a try.
                    >
                    > Dave
                    >
                    > Jerry Goller writes:
                    >
                    > > It still has some interesting formatting issues though...
                    > >
                    > > Jerry
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest : the most comprehensive
                    > > interactive gear reviews and tests on the planet.
                    > >
                    > > -----Original Message-----
                    > > From: Asyndeton Canaan Dogs [mailto:asyndeton@...]
                    > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:13 PM
                    > > To: BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
                    > > Subject: Re: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Owner Review #1 Patagonia SW base
                    > > layer bottoms
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Patagonia Women's CapileneR SilkWeight Bottoms
                    > >
                    > > Capilene Silkweight is marketed by Patagonia as being their
                    > > fastest-wicking, fastest-drying and
                    > > sleekest base layer, providing thermal regulation in sun and wind.
                    > > Layer under endurance shells in cool
                    > > or cold weather.
                    > >
                    > > 3.5-oz. Capilene microdenier polyester.
                    > >
                    > > 128 g. (4.5 oz.).
                    > > Gusseted Crotch.
                    > > Size large
                    > > Color black
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
                    > BackpackGearTest-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
                    >
                    >
                    >
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                    --
                    Kelly Riggs
                    Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the
                    basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is
                    more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of
                    the universe. - Frank Zappa
                  • Asyndeton Canaan Dogs
                    ... Allrighty, I think I got it right now. Took out the fancy bullets. Turned OFF the html tags to copy all & paste. Opened & copied it out of the browser
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                      David Anderson wrote:
                      >
                      > Just wondering how you got that result? What did you write it in and how did
                      > you send it?
                      >
                      > What I do is write the report in an HTML editor and save the file. Then I go
                      > into my browser and open the file. I select (highlight) the whole thing and
                      > copy and paste it into my e-mail program.
                      >
                      > This gives me a plain text version of my report for the mailing list.
                      >
                      > By the way I noticed that your report has a bunch of IMG tags. I think you
                      > used a fancy bullet point. Could you switch it back to normal bullets?
                      >
                      > Dave

                      Allrighty, I think I got it right now. Took out the fancy bullets.
                      Turned OFF the html tags to copy all & paste. Opened & copied it out of
                      the browser (netscape btw), and pasted it into the netscape email. If it
                      fails this time, let me know in what way, so I can fix it as well. Oh
                      yes, I use Win 98, and the MS word editor out of sheer laziness, since I
                      do know a little html, having been forced to learn it from the ground up
                      :).

                      Kelly

                      K
                    • Jerry Goller
                      I made a folder for these under Clothes. Thanks for the report. Jerry http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest : the most comprehensive interactive gear
                      Message 10 of 12 , Feb 2, 2002
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                        I made a folder for these under Clothes. Thanks for the report.

                        Jerry

                         

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                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Asyndeton Canaan Dogs [mailto:asyndeton@...]
                        Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:13 PM
                        To:
                        BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Owner Review #1 Patagonia SW base layer bottoms

                         

                        Patagonia Women's Capilene® SilkWeight Bottoms

                             Capilene Silkweight is marketed by Patagonia as being their
                        fastest-wicking, fastest-drying and
                             sleekest base layer, providing thermal regulation in sun and wind.
                        Layer under endurance shells in cool
                             or cold weather.

                             3.5-oz. Capilene microdenier polyester.
                         

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