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Re: [BackpackGearTest] Edit-Therm-a-Rest Trail Lite - Matt Mayfied

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  • matt mayfield
    Thanks a lot, Richard. I appreciate your time and expertise. I wasn t sure on the following edit, but made used my best judgment- (whatever that may be).
    Message 1 of 3 , Oct 19, 2009
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      Thanks a lot, Richard.
      I appreciate your time and expertise.

      I wasn't sure on the following edit, but made used my best judgment- (whatever that may be).

      <as the temperature dropped to 50 F (10C ) with heavy fog.>
      EDIT: Delete the space after "50" add the space after "10C"

      Thanks again- and Thanks to my mentor, David Wilkes.


      Therm-a-Rest Trail Lite
      Owner Review
      September 30, 2009


      Name: Matt Mayfield
      Age: 33
      Sex: Male
      Height: 5 ft 11 in (1.8 m)
      Weight: 170 lb (77 kg)
      Email: mattmayfield1 at hotmail dot com
      Kansas City, Missouri

      I started backpacking around 1994. I started out with 19th century minimalist camping and moved toward more conventional. I backpack anywhere from deep woods, desert, winter lands, caves and river bluffs to urban sprawl, under bridges, abandoned buildings and hobo camps. I also travel a great deal for work as a photographer. Many days spent on the road and air travel, I find most gear and clothing serve that lifestyle as well. I acquire gear over time as I can afford it. My typical pack weight is 30 lb (13.6 k). I've learned through my experiences what gear I need for a lighter pack and a comfortable journey.

      The Product

      Therm-a-Rest Trail Lite
      Manufacturer: Therm-a-Rest
      manufacturer's website

      Listed weight: 2 lb 11 oz (1220 g)
      Weight as delivered: 2 lb 11 oz (1220 g)
      Size listed and measured: Width 25 in (63 cm), Length 77 in (196 cm)
      Thickness: 1.5 in ( 3.8 cm)
      Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price: $69.95 US

      Product Description

      My first encounter with this pad was at a store where they had a bed of river rocks I used to try out the product. I would not have known I had been lying on rock. Convinced, I purchased the product. I soon visited the manufacturer's website and found very helpful information on care, maintenance and such under their FAQ section. I took notice that the light green color matches the color on the manufacturer's website. Upon close inspection, I was impressed with the finish and detail. The whole pad looks seamless and has a texture to it that reminded me of a very fine corrugation. Perhaps as a design to stave off slippage. The valve is plastic and threaded and seems cheap and unstable when opened. The cap remains on the valve so there is no worry about misplacing it. When closed it seems very firm. So far, I have had no problems. The pad did not come with a stuff sack. I had to pay extra money for it. I figured it was worth the investment to protect the
      pad. Also, a repair kit is not included.





      Field Data

      The first time I used the pad was at my grandmother's house. I wanted to forgo the bed to try out my new equipment in order to get acquainted. After unrolling it, I let it inflate on its own with 8-10 of my own breaths. Most likely because of the product's time with storage and shipping.
      My next time was a backyard camp. After unrolling, it took some time to "self-inflate". I eventually had to blow in 5 to 6 breaths. I had previously slept on a military foam type and I found the Therm-a-Rest to be far superior to the former. The temperature dropped to 60 F (15.5 C) that night. I slept in a sleeping bag inside a tent. I slept undisturbed and woke up refreshed. The pad had retained all of its loft. I also found that the size was perfect even with my broad shoulders (I am primarily a back sleeper with some side actions throughout the night). It had convinced me enough to purchase another one so my girlfriend and I could both experience the comfort of this type of pad.

      In May I camped in very rainy weather with the temperature in the high seventies, dropping all the way down to 40 F (4.5 C) at night. The ground was much harder this time. Striking camp this time is where I finally learned how to easily roll up the pad and place into the stuff sack. Fold almost in half, open valve, slowly roll up, close valve, hold under arm and slide the stuff sack on.

      Early June I was camping on the bank of a river- a very rocky riverbank. Temperature was similar to previous test. I used a footprint for the tent and the pad inside the tent. Once again- Didn't feel the rocks.
      The rest of the camp had set up their tents in another spot away from the river because of this, while the Therm-a-Restâ„¢ provided me with this prime real estate! Once again, the same results- a good nights rest and same loft in the morning.

      The next time out had been a car camping night with my girlfriend. We had a 65 lb (30 kg) dog with us in the two man tent. The dog became a nuisance due to trying to get onto the pads so we told him to scram, gave him the boot and made him sleep with the other dog in the tarp tent I erected for them. That night I had engaged in activities some couples might share. While they are designed for rest only and this may seem unnecessary information, I feel it is worth noting as many readers camp with their love interests and may find themselves in the same situation. The pads in the morning weren't as lofty as before and did disrupt some sleep.

      In the later part of summer, a buddy and I camped in a bluff on hard ground. We slept in open air as we had the shelter of a cliff overhang. I did use the thin military foam pads just to protect the Therm-a-Rest pads. The temperature dropped to 48 F (8.9 C). Unfortunately my buddy had only brought a sheet (what?!). I begrudgingly opened my sleeping bag open so that we could share the warmth. That meant the pads right next to each other and there were probably some rolling back and forth over both pads contending for coverage. However we did sleep fairly well and once again they maintained their loft.

      Over Labor Day weekend I camped out at a drive-in for two nights. I slept on the pad with a ground cloth over hard packed gravel. I slept very well with a Therm-a-Rest Tech Blanket (a lightweight, quilted nylon blanket with a high-loft synthetic fill and soft polyester interior) as the temperature dropped to 50 F (10C) with heavy fog. I woke up refreshed with the pad as inflated as it was at bedtime. Realizing this made me smile as I leaned over and fired up the stove for a cup of coffee).

      With Autumn approaching I camped out under a tarp on a slight incline. I have a fitted sheet for the pad. This particular time I had skipped the sheet. I woke twice to find I had slipped off the pad. I was relieved to find I had the sheet with me went ahead and placed the sheet on. Slept like a log for the rest of the night.

      under tarp

      In mid October I camped in Weston Bend State Park. Temperature during the day was around 42 F (5.5 C) with a light mist. The temperature dropped to 33 F (0.5 C) that night. I slept in a three season, two-person tent with of a 15 F (9.5 C) rated, down insulated sleeping bag. I used an ultralight footprint under the tent and the dedicated sheet with the pad. I slept very well. There was one point in the morning where I noticed I had one foot off the pad, resting on the floor of the tent. Unlike the rest of my body, my foot was pretty cold even though it was in the sleeping bag, with a sock on it. Goes to show how well the pad does around freezing temperatures.



      The Therm-a-Rest Trail Lite is a good buy. They do their job and that is important as it provides the necessary protection from the ground which pulls body heat away and the comfort that is needed for a good nights rest that will ensure a more enjoyable trip and a sharper mind.

      The valve which I had thought as "cheap and unstable" has held up very well and the experience I have had with it debunks my initial impression.

      I found it difficult to get the pad into the stuff sack the first couple times. A few practices remedied this.

      Sliding had been a problem one night on an incline when I did not use the sheet. The problem was solved once I placed the sheet onto the pad.

      I got the pads in April of 2009. As of the writing of this Owner Review I have had a total of 24 nights.

      I do store my pads hanging in the closet as per the manufacturer's recommendation to help the pad to keep memory, thus helping the "self-inflating".

      From: richardglyon <rlyon@...>
      To: BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:53:15 PM
      Subject: [BackpackGearTest] Edit-Therm-a-Rest Trail Lite - Matt Mayfied

      Matt, Much improved. Thanks for sticking with this (and thanks to David for the mentoring). A few edits, in the same format: EDIT is a required change, Edit a suggested change, and Comment a comment (with no change required). Please repost therevised report to this list, with REPOST, the product name, and your name in the subject line, with a link to the Tests/OR folder copy. Cheers, Richard

      <Weight: 170 lb (77 k)>
      EDIT 77 kg

      <Listed weight: 2 lb 11oz (1220 g)
      Weight as delivered: 2 lb 11 oz (1220 g)
      Listed size Width: 25 in (63 cm), Length 77 in (196 cm)
      Measured size: 25 in (63 cm), Length 77 in (196 cm)>
      EDIT: Need a space between "11" and "oz" in the first line.
      Edit: When the listed and measured dimensions are the same, you may say" Size, listed and measured." Saves a line and compliments the manufacturer.

      <Manufacturer' s Suggested Retail Price: US$69.95>
      Edit: Our preferred but not required is "$69.95 US"

      < The valve is plastic and threaded and seems cheap and unstable when opened. >
      EDIT: If you make a comment like this (and it is perfectly OK to do so), you owe it to the manufacturer to report on your experience. Were there any problems? If so, what? If not, you should add that your experience disproved your first impression.

      <I had camped in May in very rainy weather with temp drops of 40 F (4.5 C). >
      EDIT: drops to 40F. Unless you mean that the temperature dropped 40 degrees F (say from 90 to 50), which is what it now seems you are saying. If that is what you mean (I don't think so based on later commentary), you need to list the actual nighttime temperature.
      Edit: "temperatures" is preferable to "temps," here and elsewhere. Up to you.

      <as the temperature dropped to 50 F (10C ) with heavy fog.>
      EDIT: Delete the space after "50" add the space after "10C"

      < I slept in a three season, two person tent with of a 15 F (9.5 C) rated,>
      Edit: three-season, two-person [with hyphens]

      <There was one point in the morning where I noticed I had one foot off of the pad>
      Edit: You could delete "of" without changing the meaning and it would read better.

      < As of the writing of this field report I have had a total of 22 nights.>
      EDIT: of this Owner Review {When you begin testing for BGT you will learn that "field report" means something different.)

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