- Here s my 2nd owner review... Sea to Summit 100% Premium Silk Liner Owner Review by Shawn Wakefield April 2, 2009 Reviewer Information Name: Shawn WakefieldMessage 1 of 3 , Apr 2, 2009View SourceHere's my 2nd owner review...
Sea to Summit 100% Premium Silk Liner
Owner Review by Shawn Wakefield
April 2, 2009
Name: Shawn Wakefield
Height: 6 ft 0 in (1.9 m)
Weight: 165 lb (113 kg)
Email address: shawn AT wakefieldsoft DOT com
City, State, Country: Tishomingo, Oklahoma, United States
Date: April 2, 2009
Backpacking Background: I started camping and backpacking about 25 years ago as a teenager in the Boy Scouts. I have more recently gotten very interested in backpacking again, and I really enjoy going lightweight now. My wife and I take frequent backpacking trips together, and our kids (all under 13) go occasionally. We like to hike in Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas for short trips, but enjoy Wyoming and Colorado for longer trips.
Item: Silk Long (Rectangular) Liner
Manufacturer: Sea to Summit
Year of Manufacture: 2008
Listed weight: 5 oz (142 g)
Weight as delivered: 5.0 oz (142 g) liner only, 5.4 oz (153 g) with included stuff sack
Listed Length: 82 in (208 cm)
Listed Width: 36 in (91 cm)
Length as delivered: 81.0 in (206 cm)
Width as delivered: 35.5 in (90 cm)
Packed size as delivered: 5.7 x 2.8 in (14.5 x 7.1 cm) in included stuff sack
MSRP: not listed
Material: AA Grade, 10-Momy ripstop silk (per manufacturer website)
Color: Available in Navy Blue, Pacific Blue, Eucalyptus Green, Kangaroo Brown, Outback Red & Jacaranda Purple
Color as delivered: Pacific Blue
The 100% Premium Silk Liner is made from ripstop silk, and is sewn into a rectangular sleeping bag shape. According to the website, it adds up to 10 degrees F (6 C) of warmth to an existing bag. It is machine washable, and stuffs into its own included stuff sack. I have the long (rectangular) size, but other sizes are available, according to the manufacturer website:
- Standard (Rectangular) 73 x 36 in (185 x 91 cm) 4.6 oz (130 g)
- Traveler (with pillow case) 88 x 36 in (224 x 91 cm) 6.0 oz (170 g)
- Mummy with Hood 82 x 36 in (208 x 91 cm) 4.8 oz (136 g)
- Long (Rectangular) 82 x 36 in (208 x 91 cm) 5.0 oz (142 g)
- Double 73 x 73 in (185 x 185 cm) 9.0 oz (255 g)
The silk liner can be used as a very lightweight bag by itself if temperatures are warm, or as a liner inside any sleeping bag to add warmth on colder nights.
I have used the silk liner on my last four camping trips. Temperatures at night got as low as 22 degrees F (-6 C) on a four night trip, and below freezing on the other three trips. I have used the silk liner both inside a mummy winter sleeping bag, and underneath a down quilt.
It is difficult for me to know for sure how much additional warmth the liner provides. Based on previous trips when I had to wear a base layer inside my mummy bag to stay warm below freezing, I was able to use only the liner, and no base layer, to stay comfortable. I believe the 10 degrees F (6 C) of additional warmth is reasonable.
When using the liner, I also get the benefit of it keeping my sleeping bag or quilt cleaner. The liner prevents body oils or dirt from getting onto the inside of my bag or quilt. When using the liner with the down quilt, the liner prevents some drafts from reaching me around the edges of the quilt.
I also think that having the liner inside my sleeping bag, which gives me the 'bag within a bag' system, makes the bag feel warmer by keeping warmed air around my body within the liner. When I move, my skin does not directly touch the inside of the bag directly, so it seems that there are fewer 'cold spots'.
Things I like:
2. Adds warmth
3. Keeps sleeping bag clean
Things I don't like:
1. Somewhat expensive
By using the 100% Premium Silk Liner from Sea to Summit, I am able to keep my sleeping bag or quilt cleaner which results in fewer washings. The silk liner adds warmth on cold nights and it works well under a quilt to prevent drafts. I always pack the liner when my trips may include colder weather. It's a keeper!
- Shawn Wakefield
- PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL. IT IS MOST IMPORTANT! Thanks for your Owner s Review. It has been added to the Owner Review Queue and will be picked up by anMessage 2 of 3 , Apr 4, 2009View SourcePLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL. IT IS MOST IMPORTANT!
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- Shawn, Nice to see you again. I will be giving you your edits below. After the corrections and additions, you need to upload your HTML file to the OwnerMessage 3 of 3 , Apr 15, 2009View SourceShawn,
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I have used the silk liner on my last four camping trips. Temperatures at night
got as low as 22 degrees F (-6 C) on a four night trip, and below freezing on
the other three trips.
Edit: You should delete "degrees" per the BGT Utility Conversion at http://www.backpackgeartest.org/convert.html
I believe the 10 degrees F (6 C) of additional
warmth is reasonable.
Edit: Ditto above.
When I move, my skin does not directly touch
the inside of the bag directly, so it seems that there are fewer 'cold spots'.
EDIT: Delete one "directly" to avoid being redundant.
EDIT: You need to add more information to the Field Use section of this Owner Review. You don't answer a lot of questions a reader looking to purchase this liner might have. Such as: How does the liner feel? Soft? Silky? Cold? Are the seams noticeable against your skin? Is the quality good with no loose threads, etc. How easy is it to insert the liner into your sleeping bag? Does the liner slip around in the bag or does it fasten to the bag in some way? Does your quilt stay put when using the liner or is the fabric slippery and the quilt falls off? Has the liner gotten dirty yet? Did you wash it? If so, how? How has it held up after washing? These are just some questions to consider.
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> Here's my 2nd owner review...
> Sea to Summit 100% Premium Silk Liner
> Owner Review by Shawn Wakefield