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  • davewyman99
    Here is my owner review of the MSR BlackLite Classic Cookset. The HTML may be found at: http://tinyurl.com/OR-DW-Cookset
    Message 1 of 3 , Oct 6, 2008
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      Here is my owner review of the MSR BlackLite Classic Cookset. The HTML
      may be found at: http://tinyurl.com/OR-DW-Cookset

      MSR BlackLite Classic Cookset
      October 6, 2008

      NAME: David Wyman
      EMAIL: wyman@...
      AGE: 30
      LOCATION: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
      GENDER: Male
      HEIGHT: 5' 10" (1.78 m)
      WEIGHT: 175 lb (79.40 kg)

      While I've been camping for years, I've only been backpacking for a
      short time. As a fairly new backpacker, I'm still trying to find the
      right equipment so I alternate between my tent and hammock. I do quite
      a number of short trips in the Pennsylvania (PA) state parks (Raccoon
      Creek and Ohiopyle mostly) and longer trips are usually up in the
      Allegheny National Forest. My dog almost always comes along on the
      longer hikes, and my wife and toddler join me on the shorter ones.


      <IMAGE>MSR's Image of MSR BlackLite Classic Cookset (from

      Manufacturer: MSR - Mountain Saftey Research
      Year of Manufacture: Unknown - Purchased in 2005
      Manufacturer's Website: http://msrgear.com/
      MSRP: US $44.95
      Listed Weight: 18 oz (512 g)
      Measured Weight: 18 oz (510 g)


      This cookset comes with six items: one 1.5 l (51 fl oz) pot, a 2 l (68
      fl oz) pot, a lid that is designed to fit either pot, a small
      Packtowl, a PanHandler (pot lifter), and a stuff sack. The 1.5 l pot
      nests inside the 2 l pot with the Packtowl between them to protect the
      non-stick finish. The PanHandler can be placed inside the pots and,
      with the lid on, the whole set fits inside the mesh stuff sack.

      The pots are made of aluminum, have a black exterior to help with heat
      absorption, and the insides are coated with a non-stick coating. With
      the included Packtowl separating them, the smaller pot fits snuggly
      inside the larger pot with little room to spare which keeps them from
      rattling around while hiking. When used with the larger pot, the lid
      fits well and has a small, wire handle that folds down when not in
      use. When used with the smaller pot, the lid is placed on it upside
      down which renders the wire handle useless. That is one of my chief
      complaints about the cookset.

      The included Packtowl is fairly small and fits nicely between the two
      pots when packed. It can be used to grab the wire handle when cooking
      to protect my fingers and it is useful for scrubbing out the pots
      after cooking. It would have been nice to have a second Packtowl in
      order to protect the inside of the smaller pot if anything, such as
      the pot lifter, is packed inside. The pot lifter works well but,
      unless wrapped in another cloth/towel, can't be packed inside the
      cookset as it will scratch the interior of the smaller pot.

      The mesh stuff sack is sufficient to store the cookset. The pots fit
      nicely inside it and, when cinched tightly, it does prevent the pot
      lid from separating from the pots and keeps everything together.
      Unfortunately, it doesn't cinch down completely and leaves just enough
      room for the lid to rattle which can be a bit annoying if the cookset
      isn't packed tightly in the backpack.


      This cookset has been used quite often over the last three years on
      trips ranging in length from weekend car camping trips to 3 or 4 day
      hiking trips. Trips have taken it to several PA state parks, including
      Ohiopyle, Raccoon Creek, and Morraine. Several of the multi-day trips
      have included portions of the North Country Trail in the Allegheny
      National Forest. For all of the hikes, weather was always fairly warm,
      between 50 F (10 C) and 80 F (27 C), sunny, and mostly rain-free.

      On car camping trips, the cookset sees heavy use feeding me, my wife,
      and (recently) my son. It has been used to cook portions of every meal
      and has worked well with everything from soups to rice dishes to
      scrambled eggs. The smaller pot has only been used with my Snow Peak
      backpacking stove. It is small enough that it easily balances on the
      stove's arms and, when using the lid, heats quickly. The only
      complaint about the small pot is that the lid must be used upside down
      if a good seal is desired and this renders the fold-down wire handle
      unusable. The only way to remove the lid is to grab the edge (possibly
      using the Packtowl to insulate the fingers) or using the pot lifter
      which can scratch the finish on the lid (though that is purely an
      aesthetic issue and does not noticeably affect performance.)

      The larger pot is only brought on car camping trips and has been used
      on my Coleman camp stove as well as over wood fires. Unless there is a
      very stable and level surface, it is a bit too large to be used on the
      Snow Peak stove. This pot has also been used to cook a wide range of
      foods and the non-stick coating works fairly well. After cooking, it
      is used to boil water for cleaning the other pot and any utensils.

      The included Packtowl comes in handy when lifting the lid while
      cooking and works very well at scrubbing the pots and utensils while
      cleaning up. It dries fairly quickly and fits nicely in between the
      two pots when they are stored.

      The PanHandler (pot lifter) works well on both pots without scratching
      the non-stick coating though it does have a tendency to scratch the
      lid if it used to lift it while cooking. This doesn't seem to affect
      the performance of the cookset. My chief complaint with the pot lifter
      is that it must be wrapped in a separate towel if it will be stored
      inside the pots. Unfortunately, no second towel is provided and must
      be obtained separately.

      The non-stick coating works as advertised, at least while it lasts. It
      doesn't seem to matter how carefully the pots are handled as the
      non-stick coating seems to scratch fairly easily. The large pot hasn't
      been handled very well (my son likes to play with it) and has picked
      up several scratches. This is partially my fault as I could have taken
      better care of it. On the other hand, the smaller pot has been very
      carefully taken care of and still has managed to pick up a few
      scratches to the non-stick coating. So far, none of these scratches
      have caused too much trouble. Everything still cooks well but cleaning
      the pot takes a bit more work. I'm watching closely to see if any of
      the coating begins to flake off on its own, but no flaking has been
      noticed yet.

      On longer backpacking trips, the larger pot stays at home and the
      Packtowl protects the inside of the smaller pot from the pot lifter
      and the Snow Peak stove which I pack inside. The lid is placed on and
      everything is packed in the stuff sack to help protect the finish. A
      rubber band is then wrapped around it to help control the rattling.
      The small pot works very well with my stove and cooks my one-pot meals
      as well as the titanium mug that I also carry. The extra room is nice
      as I don't have to watch for boil-over like I do with the mug.


      * Smaller pot works very well with my Snow Peak stove.
      * Larger pot holds quite a bit and works over both my camp stove
      and an open fire.
      * Packs small and is light weight.


      * Fold-down handle on the lid is useless when used with the
      smaller pot.
      * Lack of a second Packtowl to protect the inside of the smaller pot.
      * A little expensive.

      This report was created with the BackpackGearTest.org Report Writer
      Version 1. Copyright 2008. All rights reserved.
    • Jamie D.
      PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL. IT IS MOST IMPORTANT! Thanks for your Owner s Review. It has been added to the Owner Review Queue and will be picked up by an
      Message 2 of 3 , Oct 9, 2008
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      • Kathleen Waters
        David, I have been assigned to edit your OR. Since this is your second review and there are only two tiny edits, there is no need for you to repost the
        Message 3 of 3 , Oct 20, 2008
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          I have been assigned to edit your OR. Since this is your second
          review and there are only two tiny edits, there is no need for you to
          repost the corrections. Your HTML and pictures look good.

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          My list of edits follows. Let me know if you don't understand
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          Edit/COMMENT:Since there appears to be (or was at one time)
          a "Gourmet" cookset as well as a "Classic" cookset, I think it would
          be best to add the word "Classic" to your OR title to avoid confusion.

          > Manufacturer: MSR - Mountain Saftey Research
          EDIT: Correct spelling is "Safety".

          > Listed Weight: 18 oz (512 g)
          > Measured Weight: 18 oz (510 g)
          EDIT: If the Listed Weight and the Measured weight are the same in
          the Imperial measurement, they would have to be the same in the
          metric. 510 g is correct. However, since MSR has the incorrect
          conversion on their website, the best way to handle this very obvious
          (since the amounts are on sucessive lines) would be to note the
          discrepancy. I'd go for "Listed Weight: 18 oz (512 g) <sic>"
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