EDIT: REPOST: MSR 2 Liter Dromlite Bag and Hydration Kit
- D'oh. Forgot to change the subject.
--- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, "S" <geosheila@...> wrote:
> Hi Greg,
> EDIT, Edit and Comments below as usual. We're just going to have to work fast to get
> OR in before Ray's. Let me check out the OR once more with a quick repost. Thanks.
> BGT OR Editor
> > 30lb (11 and 14 kg).
> EDIT: space after 30
> > Note: The curent version of the Dromlite available from MSR now uses
> EDIT: current
> EDIT: DromLite
> > DromLite Description and Features
> EDIT: It's called a "2 Liter DromLite Bag"
> > The MSR 2 Liter DromLite Bag (hereafter referred to as
> > the "DromLite" or "bladder" for the purpose of this review) is a
> > lighter version of the MSR Dromedary bags - weighing 30% less.
> EDIT: This is a good second sentence, but your first sentence needs to tell me what the
> product actually is -- it's got the word bag in it, I might think it was a sleeping bag.
> > DromLIte slims down to a 200D shell (the Dromedary bags are either
> > 500D or 1,000D) and drops the 5 grommets and perimiter webbing.
> EDIT: DromLite
> EDIT: perimeter
> > The bladder itself is six sided, and is longest lengthwise.
> Edit: I think that's the definition of lengthwise. How about just some dimensions and
> width when full instead?
> EDIT: Did the spigot thingie come with the bag? I need a description of whatever is on
> bag itself.
> > MSR Hydration Kit
> Edit: For consistency, how about making this title say "Description and Features" like the
> one above?
> > The MSR Hydration Kit is an available accessory from MSR that turns
> > the DromLite from a simple water bag with spigot on the cap into a
> EDIT: You need to describe that in the DromLite section. Wait, is the spigot different
> the 3-in-1? You need to describe it all up there in the DromLite section.
> > The "3 in 1" valve on the top of the cap comes off and the end of
> EDIT: 3-in-1
> > The bite valve is the MSR Bite Valve which the manufacturer claims
> > to be leakproof
> Edit: This could be tightened up -- "The MSR Bite Valve is claimed to be leakproof..."
> > The DromLite system has become the only hydration bladder that I
> > use.
> EDIT: Super. Can you say how long you have been using it? (...for the past two years on
> least 1,000 overnight trips...)
> > I first made the switch to the MSR DromLite primarily because of the
> > mouth/opening. Before using the MSR DromLite, I used a Camelbak.
> > Filling my CamelBak in the field had become quite a chore because it
> > did not mate at all MSR MiniWorks. The DromLite mates perfectly, so
> > I can filter my water quicker and more efficiently.
> EDIT: I don't like the comparison and mention of specific other products. Instead, try
> something like, "I made the switch to the MSR DromLite primarily because it mates
> perfectly with my MSR water filter, unlike my previous water bladder from another
> company, so I can now filter water more efficiently."
> > I use this water for cooking
> > and mixing my drinks such as Gatorade or tea.
> Comment/Edit: To be really clear, you could state that you do that in a cup or other
> container (if you're not pouring the Gatorade mix in the water bag).
- Hey Sheila,
I think we've got it (or almost).
For your editing pleasure, I have uploaded to the test folder:
Or the Tiny version...
And of course the text version as follows... Thanks Sheila!
MSR 2 LITER DROMLITE BAG AND HYDRATION KIT
BY GREG MCDONALD
June 03, 2008
NAME: Greg McDonald
EMAIL: gdm320 AT yahoo DOT com
LOCATION: Boynton Beach, Florida
HEIGHT: 6' 0" (1.83 m)
WEIGHT: 225 lb (102.00 kg)
I have been camping for 15 years, 11 of them have been spent hiking
in the backcountry. My hikes are almost exclusively in Florida and
generally range between one and three nights. My all-time favorite
hike was a 10 day expedition in the Philmont Scout Ranch in
Cimmaron, New Mexico. I consider myself a lightweight but
comfortably equipped hiker, with a pack averaging between 25 and 30
lb (11 and 14 kg).
Manufacturer: Mountain Safety Research (MSR)
Manufacturer's Website: http://www.msrgear.com
Model: MSR 2 Liter DromLite Bag
Year of Manufacture: 2006
Listed Volume: 2 L
Listed Weight: 3.1 oz (88 g)
Measured Weight: 3.2 oz (91 g)
Measured Dimensions (Empty): 16.5 x 8.25 in (40 x 20 cm)
Materials: Polyurethane coated 200D nylon
Note: The current version of the DromLite available from MSR now
uses 200D Cordura as the body material and the color is now "MSR
2 Liter DromLite Description and Features
The MSR 2 Liter DromLite Bag (hereafter referred to as
the "DromLite" or "bladder" for the purpose of this review) is a
hydration bladder that is 30% lighter than the MSR Dromedary bags.
The DromLite slims down to a 200D shell (the Dromedary bags are
either 500D or 1,000D) and drops the 5 grommets and perimeter
The bladder itself is six sided and is a fabulous purple color and I
don't want to hear anything about it - any man who won't carry a
purple hydration system isn't much of a man. The mouth of the
DromLite sits atop the bladder close to one end. The opposite end
sports a grommet attached in the seam. The DromLite includes the
black "3-in-1" (fill, drink, and pour) cap with a small flip-closure
spigot. The seams on the DromLite are plenty thick for a bladder of
this size and are very well seamed and sealed.
MSR Hydration Kit Description and Features
Model: MSR Hydration Kit
MSRP: US$ 19.95
Weight: 2.5 oz (71 g) Verified Accurate
Length: 42 in (107 cm) Verified Accurate
Tube Material: Polyurethane-lined PVC
The MSR Hydration Kit is an available accessory from MSR that turns
the DromLite from a simple water bag with a spigot on the cap into a
fully functional hydration system for integration into my pack.
The "3 in 1" spigot valve on the top of the cap unscrews and the end
of the tubing with the swivel elbow attachment screws onto the cap
in its place. The hydration tube has an alligator clip that can clip
to my pack straps to keep the tube from dangling all over the place.
The bite valve is the MSR Bite Valve which the manufacturer claims
to be leakproof and it also sports a twist shutoff valve to stop
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2" IMAGE CAPTION = "MSR
Dromlite with Hydration Kit attached.">>
Field Use and Observations
For the last year and a half the DromLite has become the only
hydration system that I use. It is my primary water hauler both on
day hikes and overnight to multi night treks. It might be important
to note that the vast majority of my experiences with the DromLite
system have been in Florida, which means temperatures above freezing
and at low altitudes.
I first made the switch to the MSR DromLite primarily because of the
mouth/opening. The DromLite mates perfectly with my MSR water
filter, unlike the previous hydration systems I've used, so I am
able to filter water much more quickly and efficiently.
The vast majority of my camps are "wet" camps where I have the
opportunity to pump more water whenever I need it. I would estimate
I fill the bag up twice in the field for every overnight trip I
take - once for use in camp then a refill for the next day's hike.
When I first get to my camp I pump the DromLite full and replace the
drinking tube with the spigot cap and hang it from a branch with a
carabiner attached through the grommet. I use this water for cooking
and mixing drinks such as tea or Gatorade in either my cup or a
Nalgene bottle. The spigot cap doesn't flow water particularly
quickly, but it gets the job done. If it was up to me though I would
definitely increase the flow of the spigot cap.
Besides the slow flow on the spigot cap, I have found another
drawback to the DromLite. There are no handles or loops other than
the grommet to hold the bladder by and unfortunately this can make
it pretty awkward to carry if I intend to pump directly from the
water source. Fortunately for me, I normally pump from a soft-sided
water bucket that I haul up to camp from the source. So while the
lack of a handle isn't a huge deal for me, it does keep me hauling
water back to camp for pumping. Of course the lack of extra webbing
does cut the weight of the DromLite, so I have been back and forth
as to my willingness to sacrifice weight for this added
The DromLite really shines as a hydration system integrated into my
pack. The 2 liter DromLite fits perfectly in the top lid of my
backpack, which is the best location I have found for it. It keeps
the system gravity fed and the tube at the right length for me,
which I clip to the webbing on my shoulder strap with the included
alligator clip. The 2 liter capacity is perfectly suited for my
purposes and, if necessary, I can supplement the amount of water I
carry by adding a Nalgene bottle or two. Neither the bag nor the
drinking tube adds any sort of odd taste that I have ever noticed
and I am sensitive to such things. I am also happy to report I have
never suffered any leaking or dampness inside the lid of my pack
from the bag leaking, from the threads or swivel elbow on the
drinking tube, or from the spigot cap. Of course it is important to
make sure the threads are clean and free of any dirt or grime, but I
have never had any issues with this practice in the field.
I have been very pleased with the DromLite's long-term durability. I
have never had to make any sort of repairs either in the field or at
home. As I previously mentioned, I have never had any sort of issues
with any leaks - which is more than I can say for any other product
of this kind I have ever used. There are a few threads that have
pulled a bit on the very edge of the seam on one small portion of
the bladder and the MSR logo is fading, but in my experience I'd
call this normal cosmetic wear and tear as there has been no
negative effect on performance whatsoever. I have also never had any
problems with the hose leaking, and the Bite Valve has performed
extremely well over time with no leaks or cracks.
What I Like
- The DromLite and the Hydration Kit are both very lightweight and
- Its use as a hydration system on the trail and a water dispenser
in camp makes the DromLite very versatile.
- Excellent long term durability.
What I'd Change
- Improve the flow rate of the "3-in-1" spigot cap.
Never Stop Exploring,
This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2008. All rights reserved.
- Hi Greg,
The OR is looking good. I do have some more edits for you to make this a great OR. You're
up against Ray here, after all! ;-)
At least two edits are repeats, so make sure you carefully make each of the edits below.
Once you make the edits, please delete your file from the test folder and upload the new
> Manufacturer's Website: http://www.msrgear.comEDIT: This needs to be clickable.
> 2 Liter DromLite Description and FeaturesEdit: 2 Liter DromLite Bag Description and Features
> The MSR 2 Liter DromLite Bag (hereafter referred to asEDIT: Better, but you still need to focus on what you're actually reviewing. Instead, I'd like
> the "DromLite" or "bladder" for the purpose of this review) is a
> hydration bladder that is 30% lighter than the MSR Dromedary bags.
to see this section begin something like, "The MSR 2 Liter DromLite Bag (blah blah) is a
hydration bladder made of something and designed for something purpose. The
dimensions of the bladder when full are something something." After you describe the
DromLite, you can make the distinctions from the Dromedary.
Edit: You actually call the thing a number of other names, like hydration system and water
hauler. All the names make sense, so I think you should drop the bit about "hereafter
referred to as..."
> The DromLite includes theEDIT: I still don't know what this cap is. I'm guessing it has three different pieces that you
> black "3-in-1" (fill, drink, and pour) cap with a small flip-closure
carry with you in your pack. One is a spigot, one is a like a sports-bottle top, and the
other is just a solid screw-on cover. If I'm totally wrong, well then, I don't get it! You need
to describe it.
> The "3 in 1" spigot valveEDIT: 3-in-1
Edit: I think spigot valve is redundant
> The bite valve is the MSR Bite Valve which the manufacturer claimsEdit: This would read better as, "The MSR Bite Valve is claimed to be leakproof."
> to be leakproof
> For the last year and a half the DromLite has become the onlyEdit: Please give an estimate of how many days you have used this bladder.
> hydration system that I use.
Revisions made, and uploaded.
It became pretty clear that I was causing confusion with the spout and
the spigot (which is what I have always called it) and the accessory
thing that MSR sells that the manufacturer actually calls a spigot (I
read Ray's OR and saw he has it there). So, I said screw it and just
put in pictures to make it clear.
I think it came out well, thanks Sheila I appreciate everything.