Owner Review OR Endeavor Mitts Mary Ann Hayman
- Here is my second owner review.
Thank you. Mary Ann Hayman
Title of Gear Being Reviewed
Owner ReviewMay 2,2008
Name: Mary Ann HaymanAge: 60Gender: FemaleHeight: 5 ft 6 in (167 cm) Weight: 128 pounds (58 kg)Hand Size: wrist to tip of middle finger - 8.5 in (22 cm) width across four fingers - 3 in (8 cm) width across four fingers and thumb - 4 in (10 cm)Email address: mother_haymanAThotmailDOTcomCity, State, Country: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, CanadaBackpacking Background: My hiking experiences over the last ten years have progressed from day hikes in the Algoma area to six day trips in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and Lake Superior Provincial Park in Ontario. Spring, summer, fall and winter trips have produced all types of weather conditions from heat and rain to cold and snow as well as having to deal with wildlife from blackflies and ticks to foxes and bears. During the last year, my "backpacking" has expanded from hiking boots and a backpack to snowshoes and a sled and bicycle shoes and panniers. Onward and forward!Product Information:Manufacturer: : Outdoor Research ORYear of Manufacture: 2007Manufacturer's Homepage: http://www.outdoorresearch.com/MSRP: $69 USSize: Medium (also available in Small, Large and Extra Large)Listed Measurements: N /AActual Measurements: Top of gauntlet to farthest tip of mitt section: 13.5 in (34.3 cm) Top of wrist strap to farthest tip of mitt section: 9 in (22.9 cm) Width across mitt section: 5 in (12.7 cm) Outer length of thumb section: 5 in (12.7 cm) Inner length of thumb section: 3 in (7.6 cm)Listed Weight: 3.9 oz (111 g) per pair size LargeActual Weight: 4 oz (100 g) per pair size MediumColour: BlackProduct description:The Outdoor Research Endeavor Mitts are lightweight mitts that provide a waterproof, breathable home for the hands in a wet environment. They are made from 70 denier Gore-Tex R Paclite R material. They are fully seam taped and have Alpen Grip palm fabric to provide good grip and abrasion resistance when handling items such as wood, ski poles, sleds, and saws. They have an anatomical curve, boxed construction and a three panel thumb. To secure the mitt around the wrist, there is a ladder lock wrist cinch with an easy grip closure tab. There is also a duo-cinch gauntlet closure with a removable idiot cord. This cord can be used to secure the mitt around your arm when your hand is out of the mitt for a while instead of putting it in a pocket or between your legs to hold it. The Endeavor Mitts come only in black and in sizes S, M, L, and XL.
Field Information & Weather Conditions:I have used the OR Endeavor Mitts on my last two backpack (snowshoe and sled) trips and also while biking at home in cold weather this spring:The December 7-10 trip was scheduled as a backpack trip as other December trips have been in the past. Due to the unusual amount of snowfall in the area (over 12 in ( 30 cm)), this trip was changed to a snowshoe and sled trip. Thus this trip became my very first overnight experience with this mode of travel. We were doing an exploration of the Tomahawk Creek Flooding area in the Mackinac State Forest in Montmorency County near Onaway, Michigan.This trip was a loop trip that took us through thick brush and swamps that covered the ground between ridges. We camped near the border of a young mixed forest and an open field that was an elk viewing area. We used two tracks to cross swampy areas and skirted private properties. We were also on the High Country Pathway for a short while.The temperatures hovered around 70 F (high 20's C) with forecast of snow. We were fortunate as the snow came during the nights while the days were a mix of sun and gray cloud. From January 18-22, I survived my coldest trip so far when we snowshoed and pulled the sleds in the Delirium Wilderness Tract and the Hiawatha National Forest in Michigan's eastern Upper Peninsula near Strong's. The itinerary for this trip called for moving between wetlands and low hills. For short spans of time, we followed snowmobile trails and at other times we were on old railroad grades. We also bushwhacked over windfalls and through overgrown bush. Due to slush under the snow, our route changed frequently. The last couple of days were on stretches of hardwood forest in the hills. Each trip that I do gives me a new experience and on this outing it was the temperature dropping as low as -25 F (-14 C) during the nights and -15 F (-8 C) during the day. The first and last day were more balmy and there was not much wind so that the wind chill wasn't so bad.I have been for about six outdoor rides with my bicycle since the roads have cleared of snow. I have done my east end flat ride of about an hour. I have also headed up the hills to Hiawatha Highlands for a 20 mile (32 km) ride. The temperatures have varied from about 23 F (-5 C) to 41 F (5 C). Product Review:On the wet, fall backpacking trip that I was on from November 2-5, 2007, I was using some homemade, waterproof mitts which were not functioning up to par. Three of the other hikers had a short, lightweight pair of waterproof mitts from Outdoor Research. Upon arriving home, I determined to purchase myself a similar pair in Medium as I had tried on theirs for size. After researching the OR site, the closest mitts to that description that I could find were the Endeavor Mitts. However, when the package arrived just before my December trip, I discovered they were not the short mitts that I had wanted. My friend thinks that the short ones that I want, may not be manufactured anymore which is a shame. I needed them right away for the upcoming trip. I also didn't want to pay shipping to send them back so I decided to keep them. The Endeavour Mitts fit my hand perfectly when the winter liner is inserted. When the liner is taken out, I need to tighten the wrist cinch to get a good fit. When bicycling, my bike gloves fit inside very nicely. It would be interesting to see how a small size would have fit. I used the Endeavor Mitts with no liner to dig away snow to put my tarp stakes in the ground or snow. This kept my other fleece mitts dry and I was able to handle the stakes better. Without liners, I find I have to cinch the wrist strap nice and tight to hold the mitt on securely. I put a thin fleece mitt inside them when I was putting up the tarp, cutting wood, unloading equipment, deicing the sled, and shoveling snow. That helped to keep my hand warmer. When I wanted more warmth, I inserted a thick fur liner and that kept my hands warm while eating lunch or sitting around the fire at night visiting and chatting. There was plenty of room for the liners. I did use the idiot cord. On the first trip, I had them around my wrist and would just pull out my hand either bare or in the thin fleece mitt to do a task. Most of the time that worked fine but I did not like them dangling from there when I was working around my fire hobo stove. For the second trip, I made a special around the neck holder and attached the idiot cord of the mitt at about waist height. This way I could just slip my hands out and let them fall to my side. I did this a lot when I only wanted the fleece mitt on, such as on the ski pole handles. Both systems worked reasonably well. I just have to get used to them. On the cold nights, when I took off the mitts and took out the fur liners, there was some frost in the mitt from my warmth and I just turned them inside out and kept them in the sleeping bag and they would be dry by morning. I was glad that they were black as dirt does not show at all.On the second trip, I used the mitts when working the ropes for climbing and descending hills and I found the palm material to be quite grippy and durable. I will continue to use them on all wet and cold trips. I have used the mitts as an overglove over my bicycle gloves on my cold rides. They block out the wind very well but do tend to get moist inside if I am working hard biking up hills. But they are easily pulled off and don't get in the way of any bike parts.I did find a small tear in the seam tape when I turned them inside out to dry after my third bike ride. I have put some seam sealer over this spot. Summary: On the whole I am very pleased with my Endeavor Mitts. They have kept me warm and dry and have held up quite well to some harch use. I am still looking for some that are a little shorter and lighter for use on my backpack trips but for winter sledding trips and cold weather bicycling, they have proved to be a useful piece of equipment. If more holes appear in the seam sealing, I may be changing my opinion of the mitts as the waterproofness should be their best feature. Positives: lightweight waterproof good grip good dark color easy to dry fits according to chart with room for liner good gauntlet closure which is nice and high good wrist closure idiot cord prevents loss of mitt Negatives: not totally breathable as a little frost accumulated can become damp when working hard small hole in the seam sealing tape
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- Hi Mary Ann,
Thanks for your OR. This is a good, detailed OR, but I do have a number of suggestions
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Title of Gear Being Reviewed
>EDIT: So what is it?May 2,2008
>EDIT: This will need to be fixed for the final version.Hand Size: wrist to tip of middle finger - 8.5 in (22 cm)
width across four fingers - 3 in (8 cm)
width across four fingers and thumb - 4 in (10 cm)
>EDIT: Use the same measurements Outdoor Research uses for their sizing (hand lengthand circumference). It makes it easier to see how good their sizing system is.
>Edit: Your background is 98 words. Without going over 100 words, please add in anestimate of your typical pack weight and whether you use a tent, hammock, or something
from day hikes in the Algoma area
>EDIT: Please list a state/province or something else that gives me an idea where thismight be.
Manufacturer: : Outdoor Research OR
>EDIT: Simply "Outdoor Research" will do here. Drop the "OR".Size: Medium (also available in Small, Large and Extra Large)
>Edit: It would be helpful to list the hand circumference and length Outdoor Researchsays fit this size.
>EDIT: Use a capital `D' to be consistent.They are made from 70 denier
Gore-Tex R Paclite R material.
>Edit: You don't need the R's after Gore-Tex and Paclite, it's okay to leave those out inyour ORs.
They are fully seam taped and have Alpen Grip
>EDIT: AlpenGripTo secure the mitt around the wrist, there
is a ladder lock wrist cinch with an easy grip closure tab.
>EDIT: I realize this is straight from Outdoor Research's list of features, but I have no ideawhat this means. It can be nice to check with manufacturers' lists of features to make sure
you touched on all the important stuff, but the product description in an OR should always
be in your own words. Can you please describe this a little more so I know what it is?
There is also a duo-cinch gauntlet closure with a removable idiot cord.
>EDIT: DuoCinchseparate features on the mitt.
>EDIT: This sentence isn't written correctly. The DuoCinch and removable idiot cords are
>EDIT: I happen to have a different pair of Outdoor Research gloves, so I've seen theseDuoCinch closures, but you do need a bigger description here of what they are and how
This cord can be used to
secure the mitt around your arm when your hand is out of the mitt for a while
instead of putting it in a pocket or between your legs to hold it.
>EDIT: This is projection, I don't have Endeavor mitts. Get rid of "you" and "your"throughout your review. Instead, describe how you use them.
I have used the OR Endeavor Mitts on my
>EDIT: It's okay to call the company "OR", but you need to have used that abbreviation inparentheses after the full name somewhere earlier in the report.
Due to the unusual amount of snowfall in the area (over 12 in ( 30 cm))
>EDIT: You have an extra space before 30We were also on the High Country Pathway for a short while.The temperatures
>EDIT: You're missing a space after the period.Michigan's eastern Upper Peninsula near Strong's.
>Comment/Edit: Does this place need an apostrophe?The Endeavour Mitts fit my hand
>EDIT: Endeavorperfectly when the winter liner is inserted.
>EDIT: Winter liner? I don't remember anything about this in the product description. Ifthis is a part of the mitt, please describe it up above in the description. If it's something
separate that you are using, please state that.
When the liner is taken out, I need to tighten the wrist cinch to get a good fit.
>Comment: The point of the wrist cinch is to get a good fit, so it sounds like they still fitperfectly, right?
It would be interesting to see how a small size would have fit.
>Comment/Edit: Why? Are they too big for you?I used the Endeavor Mitts with no liner
>Comment/Edit: I'm confused now. Are these mitts just Gore-Tex shells with no gloves orliner of any sort?
Without liners, I find I have to cinch the wrist strap nice and tight to hold the mitt on
>EDIT: Be consistent on describing one or both mitts. Here, change strap to straps andmitt to mitts.
I put a thin fleece mitt inside them
>EDIT: put thin fleece mittsdeicing the sled, and shoveling snow.
>EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's de-icing, but what would I know I'm from California.That helped to keep my hand warmer.
>EDIT: handsWhen I wanted more warmth, I inserted a thick fur liner
>EDIT: linersI did use the idiot cord.
>EDIT: cordsand attached the idiot cord of the mitt at about waist height.
>EDIT: cords of the mittswanted the fleece mitt on, such as on the ski pole handles.
>EDIT: fleece mittsthe "anatomical curve" work for you?
>Edit: Is there a reason you didn't want the shells on when using ski poles? How well did
I was glad that they were black as dirt does not show at all.
>Comment: This sentence seems out of place. Did you mean to paste it somewhere else?They have kept me warm and dry
and have held up quite well to some harch use.
>EDIT: harshIf more holes appear in the seam sealing, I may be changing my
opinion of the mitts as the waterproofness should be their best feature.
>Comment: Have you used the mitts since the hole appeared? Was there any problem withthe waterproofness?