thank you Ray - Re: OR - Black Diamond Expedition Poles
- PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL. IT IS MOST IMPORTANT!
Thanks for your Owner's Review. It has been added to the Owner
Review Queue and will be picked up by an Edit Moderator soon. Do
not worry if nothing happens with it for several days. All our
Editors are volunteers and your report will be subject to an
official edit within fourteen days. If you have not had a response
from an Edit Moderator via the Yahoo Groups list within this
timeframe, please let me know directly at jdeben@....
To assist in this process, if this is your first Owner Review we ask
that you post only ONE Owner Review for edit at a time. Our
experience is that it is more efficient for both the Editors and
yourself, if you post your first review, have it edited, approved
and uploaded before you post your second and subsequent reviews.
This way we can work with you on addressing any standard BGT policy
edits which you can incorporate into your second and subsequent
reviews before submission.
If you are new to BackpackGearTest.org, welcome to the community!
The Editors will work with you, within their own time constraints,
to get your first two Owner Reviews approved and upload in a timely
manner. Once these first two Owner Reviews have been approved and
you have submitted your Tester Agreement you will be eligible to
start applying for Tests. If you'd like more assistance or guidance
with the process you can request a mentor by sending an email to
Jenn K., the mentor coordinator, at (jennksnowy AT yahoo.com).
You may receive edits or comments from other members of the group.
These edits and comments, while not official, should be considered
carefully, and if you find them substantial, revise and re-post your
review. Incorporating member edits and re-submitting to the list
will usually result in a better review, as well as making things
easier for the official Editor. Please put REVISED in the subject
line of your re-submitted review if you take this route or make any
changes to your review BEFORE the review has been taken by an Edit
Additionally, it is important for you to monitor the Yahoo Groups
list to keep track of the progress of your Owner Review. Once an
Editor has taken your OR and made the necessary edits they will post
their comments to the list with EDIT in the subject line. Once you
have incorporated these edits into your review please use REPOST in
the subject line. When your OR has been approved by the Editor they
will use APPROVED in the subject line.
If you'd like to keep track of the progress of your OR, the entire
Owner Review Queue is posted to this yahoo group list on Fridays.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask via
the list or contact me directly.
Edit Administration Manager
- I sen't in my application, when do I hear back ?
Do you have more testers then needed, ?
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
- Greetings Ray,
Your edits follow. Upload when ready to
Here is a review for the call this month. HTML may be found here;
Black Diamond Expedition Poles
By Raymond Estrella
November 06, 2007
NAME: Raymond Estrella
LOCATION: Huntington Beach California USA
HEIGHT: 6' 3" (1.91 m)
WEIGHT: 200 lb (90.70 kg)
I have been backpacking for over 30 years, all over California, and
in many of the western states and Minnesota. I hike year-round, and
average 500+ miles (800+ km) per year. I have made a move to
lightweight gear, and smaller volume packs. I start early and hike
hard so as to enjoy the afternoons exploring. I usually take a
freestanding tent and enjoy hot meals at night. If not hiking solo I
am usually with my brother-in-law Dave or fiancée Jenn.
Manufacturer: Black Diamond Equipment
Year of Manufacture: 2004
Manufacturer's Website: http://www.bdel.com
MSRP: US $79.95
Listed Weight: 1 lb 5 oz (600 g)
Actual Weight: 1 lb 6.2 oz (629 g)
Length listed: 125 cm (49 in) Also available in 140 cm (55 in) model.
Collapsed length listed: 57 cm (22.5 in) Verified accurate
Longest length: 127 cm (50 in) at the line marked "stop"
The Black Diamond Expeditions
### EDIT: Expedition
poles (hereafter called the Expeditions
or poles) are winter ski and trekking poles. They are not grouped
with the company's Trekking Pole line but are in a separate Poles
category (should it prove to be difficult to locate on their web
They are made of three telescoping sections that slide into the next
larger section to allow them to collapse to an easier to carry and
### COMMENT: "easier length to carry and handle" would read better
(A funny thing that the manufacturer say about the
benefits is it makes them easier to carry in European rental cars.
Wow, they must be small indeed )
The sections of the poles are made
### EDIT: of
aluminum, the first of which is
anodized blue with Black Diamond's name on it. The two lower sections
are clear coated and have adjustment marks printed on them. The marks
are printed in 5 cm (1 in) increments from 85 cm to 125 cm (33.5 to
49 in). A "stop" is printed 1.2 cm (0.5 in) above the last mark to
keep me from extending it too far.
At the other end of the Expeditions is
### EDIT: are
the dual-density handles. The
sections that are blue are a hard plastic material. The areas that
are black are very soft rubbery feeling material. After three years
this material is still very soft and grippy. Some adjustable straps
top off the poles. The straps can be removed by taking the locking
### EDIT: mentioned
earlier the grips are still in good shape. My only
complaint about the poles is that the grips are a bit narrow for my
liking. Wearing gloves helps a bit, but I am a very warm-blooded
hiker and lose the gloves every chance I get to help keep me cool, as
can be seen in the picture below taken near Mount Shasta in
- HAve you also completed your first two Owner Reviews? I'm not
recalling any Bob's recently and without your last name it makes it
even more difficult.
Edit Admin Manager
--- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, "Bob" <rhphillips@...> wrote:
> I sen't in my application, when do I hear back ?
> Do you have more testers then needed, ?
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]