EDIT: Mad Rock Alpinist - SAM BISHOP
- EDIT: Mad Rock Alpinist - SAM BISHOP
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> MAD ROCK ALPINISTEDIT: Add 'BOOTS' at the end so I know what these are
> Measured Weight: 4 lb, 10 oz (2 kg, 110 g)Edit: No commas
> The uppers are made of Kevlar polyester.EDIT: this needs explaining. Kevlar is an aramid, not a polyester, so I don't know what you are trying to say here.
> were weekend length mountaineering training tripsEDIT: 'weekend-length'
> them lightweight, they are definitely heavier than La Sportiva andEDIT: Generic comparisons are quite OK if you have the experience, but leave out individual brand names. So this would
> other similar boots (although they are almost half the price of other
> name brand boots).
'heavier than other similar boots'
> When fully laced and hiking steep uphill,EDIT: steeply
> I had to duck walk a bit to avoid getting heel blisters.Comment: all this paragraph is really valuable info.
> The heel cup in these boots is pretty extreme which mightEDIT: extreme how? Must explain.
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MAD ROCK ALPINIST BOOTS
BY SAM BISHOP
March 4, 2007
NAME: Sam Bishop
LOCATION: Ventura, California, USA
HEIGHT: 5' 10" (1.78 m)
WEIGHT: 185 lb (83.90 kg)
My wife and I started taking short backpacking trips a couple years
ago. We mostly hike and camp in Los Padres National Forest, but
are taking more trips into the eastern Sierra Nevada. We hike and
camp year round in southern California, USA, but are just getting into
snow camping and mountaineering. My pack is heavy by today's
standards. I prefer low volume to low weight.
Manufacturer: Mad Rock Climbing Equipment
Year of Manufacture: 2006
Manufacturer's Website: http://www.madrockclimbing.com
Measured Weight (pair): 4 lb 10 oz (2 kg 110 g)
Size: Men's US 10
The Mad Rock Alpinist boots are considered mountaineering boots. They
are made of synthetic materials with a full shank lug sole (Mad Rubber
#5 formulation). According to the website, the uppers are made of
"Kevlar polyester". It could be a blend of two fibers or Kevlar and
polyester used in different places on the boot. It is unclear from
looking at the boot or reading the website which is the case. They
are insulated with an open cell foam lining and accept step-in
crampons (both heel and toe bails) making them appropriate for peak
bagging and mountaineering. They have a sticky rubber rand similar to
rock shoes for use in alpine rock climbing.
I have worn these boots in the eastern Sierra Nevada and in the San
Jacinto Ranger District and San Gorgonio Wilderness of the San
Bernardino National Forest. These trips were weekend length
mountaineering training trips at elevations under 10000' (3000 m) in
winter conditions with temperatures between 10 and 50 F (-12 and 10
C). I didn't encounter any significant snow storms. I hiked on snow,
ice, and rock in them with and without crampons.
ALT=Mad Rock Alpinist Boots being put on
These are my first pair of mountaineering boots. While Mad Rock calls
them lightweight, they are heavier than other boots in the "alpine
rock" category (although they are less expensive than other similar
boots). I have hiked up to 6 mi (10 km) with 3500' (1000 m) gain with
a 40 lb (18 kg) pack in these. I have put about 30 mi (48 km) total
on these boots, and they don't behave like backpacking boots I have
worn. When fully laced and hiking steeply uphill, I had to duck walk
a bit to avoid getting heel blisters. Unlacing the top three eyelets
(which form an ankle cuff), I got more flex and could hike normally.
My toes slammed into the front of the boot going downhill at first. I
replaced the stock insoles with Superfeet and adopted a thicker sock
system to solve that problem. There are two strips of padding on
either side of the Achilles' tendon and heel area which protrude quite
a bit. This padding has helped stabilize my ankle laterally when
carrying heavy loads and kicking steps in snow, but it could lead to
sizing issues for different foot shapes.
The boots worked well when postholing in snow in Lee Vining Canyon in
the Eastern Sierra. They were functional for ice travel, too.
Strap-on Stubai brand walking crampons cinched tightly, but I had
trouble fitting Grivel G14 technical crampons over the width of these
boots. The boots were rigid enough to kick steps in firm snow and for
general snow hiking. With the walking crampons attached, I could
front-point into ice and snow passably well.
ALT=Mad Rock Alpinist Boots with Crampons
Because I didn't have a chance to waterproof them before my first trip
in these boots, I initially wore a Sealskinz waterproof-breathable
sock. This was overkill. My feet stayed warm and dry with regular
hiking and liner socks even with the boots fully submerged in snow
most of the day. I attributed this to the gaiters I was wearing, but
even without the gaiters snow was adequately kept out of the boots
with the top three eyelets tied securely. The boots were very stable
for snowy talus scrambling up Lily Rock outside Idyllwild, CA, USA,
but I broke an eyelet on the day I didn't wear gaiters. This could be
a problem on expeditions. The sticky rubber rand was noticeably
effective in keeping my feet secure during sketchy scrambling.
ALT=Mad Rock Alpinist Boots scrambling
I have used these boots on trails, snow, ice, and rock pretty
aggressively. The boots are holding up adquately. I had to glue one
eyelet back on that I broke off scraping against granite (duct tape on
the left boot in the above picture is my field repair). A couple
other eyelets have gotten scraped up, but only the swiveling ones
below the cuff seem in danger of breakage since they can get snagged.
The swiveling eyelet helps with cinching the laces down to some
extent, but not enough to cover the hassle when they break. The
sticky rubber rand is getting worn away in the same fashion as rock
climbing shoes. I've been meaning to ask Mad Rock about resoling
services for this boot. If they can't do it, other resolers and
do-it-yourself kits are available. The sole is a harder rubber than
the rand and shows no tread wear so far. The heel and toe bails get
scuffed up pretty immediately on the trails. The bails are pronounced
enough that it looks like it will take a lot of wearing away before
they become unuseable.
The Mad Rock Alpinist is a good entry-level mountaineering or heavy
backpacking boot. It can handle snow and ice travel and is crampon
compatible. It is also comfortable for moderate length trail hiking
with a heavy pack. The rand and sole are fairly unique in their
utility for alpine scrambling and climbing.
THINGS I LIKE
2. Sticky rubber rand
3. Heel stability
THINGS I DON'T LIKE
1. Eyelets can break off
2. Low quality standard insole
This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2007. All rights reserved.
- Attn: SAM BISHOP - re: RED LEDGE MEN'S FREE REIN PARKA
Thanks for fixing the name thing. I appreicate your quick attention
the issue. I hate to continue to be a pain in the rump but I also
noticed one other thing. In the title of your report, you have
RED LEDGE MEN'S FREE REIN PARKA
BY SAM BISHOP
February 24, 2007
OR - should be spelled out.
- --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, "chcoa" <jdeben@...> wrote:
> Attn: SAM BISHOP - re: RED LEDGE MEN'S FREE REIN PARKA
> Hi Sam,
> Thanks for fixing the name thing. I appreicate your quick
> the issue. I hate to continue to be a pain in the rump but I alsoHi Sam,
> noticed one other thing. In the title of your report, you have
> RED LEDGE MEN'S FREE REIN PARKA
> BY SAM BISHOP
> February 24, 2007
> OR - should be spelled out.
Let me answer this one for you as I noticed it in the first place but
let it go as it is the BGT Report Writer that is addressing it this
Jamie you will notice that a lot of them are this way including the
review that I just sent in as I used the Report Writer instead of
Word for the first time.
- Okay then. If this is okay then no biggy to me. I know in the past
that was something you guys edited.
--- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, "rayestrella1"
> Hi Sam,but
> Let me answer this one for you as I noticed it in the first place
> let it go as it is the BGT Report Writer that is addressing it this
> Jamie you will notice that a lot of them are this way including the
> review that I just sent in as I used the Report Writer instead of
> Word for the first time.