Thank you Ray - Re: Owner Review Mountainsmith Cypher bag -
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- Hello Ray,
Edits follow (not many). The bit about the bag as a no-good woman made
me chuckle. Almost worth a blues...
Interesting review. None of my 0 degree bags (well, I have a 5 degree
WM Antelope and a -10 (?) Valandre Shocking Blue, but close enough)
have quite the issue you describe i.e. frost on the bag soaking in
etc. Sounds to me as if, in these settings, the transition point to
freezing is within the bag's shell, which can cause some mayhem, but
it seems worse than usual here.
One thing I was curious about, and would definitely like to see added
to the review, is how easily the bag dries on the trail. Clearly, if
the shell tends to hold the moisture in, this is not a good thing, but
if it allows moisture to quickly escape, much better. What sort of
drying times have you experienced? How many nights can you use the bag
before moisture in the loft cuts the insulative value to the point
where you are no longer comfortable?
Anyhow, Ray, upload to
when edited. Looks good!
BGT OR Editor
> The outer shell is made of Dimension Polyant, this is how### EDIT: Is this meant to be "...water repellency, wind
> Mountainsmith describes it. "The outer shell of the mummy-shaped
> bags utilizes the same tough Dimension Polyant fabric often used in
> high-performance sail lofts. The material fights and conquers all
> the elements. It is wind-resistant, has the highest rating of water-
> repellency wind resistance,
resistance..." It doesn't make sense as is, but it is a manufacturer
>### EDIT: "After reading many positive reviews..."
> My old 0 F bag was synthetic fill. While it was plenty warm (one of
> the most accurate ratings I have yet to see) it was a bit heavy, and
> worse, very bulky. It took up one third of the space in my winter
> pack. And back then that pack was huge!
> So I started looking for a new bag. After much positive reviews
> the fairly new line of bags by Mountainsmith, I decided to take a### EDIT: should this be "had ever owned." (?)
> chance on the Cypher, although I was very skeptical that a bag with
> this rating could weigh this little. When it showed up I got a
> bigger surprise. This thing packs down smaller than any bag I owned,
> or have ever owned.
(I was just getting into quality down bags.) I
> had a 40-30 F (4 to -1 C) variable bag that would not fit into the### EDIT: "As I mentioned before, I had never felt such a seemingly
> Cypher's stuff sack.
> I loved the Dimension Polyant material. I was extremely worried at
> first that I would tear it. As I mentioned before, I have never felt
> that seemingly delicate of a fabric
delicate fabric on a piece of outdoors gear."
on a piece of outdoors gear. It
> has proved to be very tough.### EDIT: Sierras.
> On my first trip with the Cypher I took it up to San Jacinto, my
> winter testing ground. My second trip with it was above Lee Vining
> in the Sierra's.
On both trips I used a Sierra Design's Hyperlight
> AST 2 man tent solo. Both times I had condensation issues. That is### EDIT: 2005 as
> to be expected in the winter, especially with a person as full of
> hot-air as me
> I love how small it packs down to, and how little it weighs. It is
> like a woman that my family keeps telling me is no good for me. I
> just can't let it go. I ended up taking it on a hike of the northern
> half of the John Muir Trail in October of 2005as
we had to be ready
> for any kind of weather. Here are some excerpts from my log
> concerning the Cypher.