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  • Rob
    Great, the summer drought, and now two porducts in a row :) Oh well, it can t hurt to apply for both. I would like to test the Hat light. I have read the
    Message 1 of 13 , Sep 15, 2001
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      Great, the summer drought, and now two porducts in a
      row :)
      Oh well, it can't hurt to apply for both. I would like
      to test the Hat light. I have read the tester
      requirements and will abide by them. Lights are, uh, a
      kind of obsession with me. I can compare/contrast the
      Hat light to the following products; BD Moonlight, PT
      Matrix, Nighthawk II, Photon II, Krill, Neontrim
      Flexlight, Peak 1 Xcursion, and a good ol' Maglite.
      Also a Tikka is readily available for testing
      purposes.

      Reviews I have written;

      Xpedition stove

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Cook%20Gear/Coleman%20Peak%201%20eXponent/

      Blacklite Cookset

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Cook%20Gear/MSR%20Blacklite%20NonStick%20cookset/Blacklite%20Gourmet%20review

      Hennessey Original

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Shelters/Hennessy%20Original%20/HennessyOriginal.htm

      Lawson Hammock

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Shelters/Lawson%20Hammock/Robert%20Skiff/

      Thermarest Guidelite

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Sleep%20Gear/Thermarest%20Guidelite/Guidelite%20owner%20review


      --- GearTester <geartester@...> wrote:
      > We've been asked to field test and evaluate a new,
      > as yet unnamed product. It is an LED light in the
      > vaguely Photon style. It has an on/off switch,
      > lithium batteries (120 hr. burn time) and a hat bill
      > clip. It is white. For testing purposes it will be
      > referred to as the Hat Light. I've had 2 of them for
      > a few days and it is the neatest thing I've seen
      > yet. No other light I know of works as well as this
      > one does as a bill (head light) light or hand light.
      > The light registers as 1/4 oz. on my scales and is
      > very bright. The company feels that two of these are
      > the most effective hat configuration so each tester
      > will be provided 2 of them. Our job is to help
      > polish this product and ready it for market. The
      > normal application process will apply.
      > Jerry
      > Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed
      > Qwest's ISP customers, necessitating my new address.
      > Sorry for the inconvenience.
      >


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    • wjj2001@yahoo.com
      Application for Beta Hat Light test: Bill Jeffrey San Diego County, California Age 43 Male, 6 4 , 200# Backpacker over 30 years, Scout backpack leader Testing
      Message 2 of 13 , Sep 15, 2001
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        Application for Beta Hat Light test:

        Bill Jeffrey
        San Diego County, California
        Age 43 Male, 6'4", 200#
        Backpacker over 30 years, Scout backpack leader

        Testing will most likely be in the Anza Borrego Desert (sea level to
        5000'). With the early winter sunsets and the lack of shade I tend to
        hike late on these trips. I also have two backpacking classes in
        November where I would demonstrate the product if received in time
        and deemed appropriate. In addition, I have been spending a bit of
        time geocaching, and would use the map to locate the caches and
        routes.

        Other lights owned:
        Photon I, II, and III (!), Mini Maglite (2AA), Maglite Solitaire
        (1AAA), and the usual heavier stuff.

        My tests so far:

        Official test:

        Seychelles Water Filter (and the only tester to post a 6-month
        report!)
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Water%
        20Treatment/Seychelle%20Water%20Filter/Bill%20Jeffery/

        Owner tests:

        New Balance 803 Shoes
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Footwear/New%
        20Balance%20803-4/AsABat803.htm

        GVP Gear G4 Backpack
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Packs/GVP%20G4%
        20Pack/Bill%20Jeffery%20/AsABatG4.htm

        Red Ledge Thunderlight Parka and Pants
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Rain%20Gear/Red%
        20Ledge%20Thunderlight%20/AsABatRedLedge.htm

        Marmot Arroyo Sleeping Bag
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Sleep%
        20Gear/Marmot%20Arroyo%20/AsABatArroyo.htm

        Test Monitor:

        Lowe Ophir Backpack

        I HAVE READ THE REQUIREMENTS FILE AND WILL COMPLY WITH THE REPORT
        REQUIREMENTS.

        Thanks,
        Bill Jeffrey ("AsABat")
      • Sonjia Leyva
        Jerry - Who is the manufacturer? I m curious to see what the prototype looks like and what else they make. Sonjia
        Message 3 of 13 , Sep 17, 2001
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          Jerry -

          Who is the manufacturer? I'm curious to see what the prototype looks
          like and what else they make.

          Sonjia
        • GearTester
          It s a blind test. I don t know the manufacturer. They are taking an existing product and seeing if it will fly in this one or what modifications it needs to
          Message 4 of 13 , Sep 17, 2001
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            It's a blind test. I don't know the manufacturer. They are taking an
            existing product and seeing if it will fly in this one or what modifications
            it needs to do so. It looks pretty good to me now.

            Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed Qwest's ISP customers,
            necessitating my new address. Sorry for the inconvenience.

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Sonjia Leyva [mailto:sonjialeyva@...]
            Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:09 PM
            To: BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Beta Hat Light test


            Jerry -

            Who is the manufacturer? I'm curious to see what the prototype looks
            like and what else they make.

            Sonjia
          • Sonjia Leyva
            Verrry interesting . . . Application for Beta Hat Light test: Sonjia Leyva San Gabriel, CA Geologist (11 years) life-long hiker, recent backpacker, currently a
            Message 5 of 13 , Sep 18, 2001
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              Verrry interesting . . .

              Application for Beta Hat Light test:

              Sonjia Leyva
              San Gabriel, CA
              Geologist (11 years) life-long hiker, recent backpacker, currently a
              Geologist/GIS Specialist working with MapInfo & ArcView GIS software.

              As usual, most of my testing will be in the San Gabriel Mountains or
              in my thesis field area in the San Joaquin Hills in addition to other
              areas of So Cal. Recently a group I hike with has started to
              do "moonlight hikes" which would provide ample opportunity to test
              out the light.

              I agree to all the terms and conditions of the group.

              Previous reports include (can also be found in the group's files
              section):

              Leki Trekking Poles -
              http://www.geophile.net/hiking/Reviews/leki_report1.htm
              http://www.geophile.net/hiking/Reviews/leki_report2.htm
              http://www.geophile.net/hiking/Reviews/leki_report3.htm

              MSR XGK? Expedition Stove -
              http://www.geophile.net/hiking/Reviews/MSR_XGK_review.html

              Sonjia


              --- In BackpackGearTest@y..., "GearTester" <geartester@e...> wrote:
              > It's a blind test. I don't know the manufacturer. They are taking an
              > existing product and seeing if it will fly in this one or what
              modifications
              > it needs to do so. It looks pretty good to me now.
              >
              > Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed Qwest's ISP
              customers,
              > necessitating my new address. Sorry for the inconvenience.
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: Sonjia Leyva [mailto:sonjialeyva@n...]
              > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:09 PM
              > To: BackpackGearTest@y...
              > Subject: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Beta Hat Light test
              >
              >
              > Jerry -
              >
              > Who is the manufacturer? I'm curious to see what the prototype
              looks
              > like and what else they make.
              >
              > Sonjia
            • woward@microrent.com
              Jerry: If you re still looking for testers, please put my name in the hat for the Hat Light. I do lots of night hiking locally (SF Bay Area) and would like to
              Message 6 of 13 , Sep 21, 2001
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                Jerry:

                If you're still looking for testers, please put my name in the hat
                for the Hat Light. I do lots of night hiking locally (SF Bay Area)
                and would like to give it a try.

                My three owner reviews are at:

                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Packs/Dana%
                20Arcflex%20Terraplane%20/DanaArcFlexTerraplane.htm

                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Shelters/TNF%
                20Slickrock%20Tent/SlickrockReview.htm

                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Water%
                20Treatment/First%20Need%20Water%
                20Purifier/FirstNeedReviewWithGraphic.htm

                I have read the group regulations and agree to play by all the rules.

                Thanks,

                Bill Ward

                --- In BackpackGearTest@y..., "GearTester" <geartester@e...> wrote:
                > We've been asked to field test and evaluate a new, as yet unnamed
                product. It is an LED light in the vaguely Photon style. It has an
                on/off switch, lithium batteries (120 hr. burn time) and a hat bill
                clip. It is white. For testing purposes it will be referred to as the
                Hat Light. I've had 2 of them for a few days and it is the neatest
                thing I've seen yet. No other light I know of works as well as this
                one does as a bill (head light) light or hand light. The light
                registers as 1/4 oz. on my scales and is very bright. The company
                feels that two of these are the most effective hat configuration so
                each tester will be provided 2 of them. Our job is to help polish
                this product and ready it for market. The normal application process
                will apply.
                > Jerry
                > Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed Qwest's ISP
                customers, necessitating my new address. Sorry for the inconvenience.
              • GearTester
                You re in. These tests do not effect your select in any future offerings. Jerry Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed Qwest s ISP customers,
                Message 7 of 13 , Sep 21, 2001
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                  You're in. These tests do not effect your select in any future offerings.
                  Jerry

                  Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed Qwest's ISP customers,
                  necessitating my new address. Sorry for the inconvenience.

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: woward@... [mailto:woward@...]
                  Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:03 AM
                  To: BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Beta Hat Light test


                  Jerry:

                  If you're still looking for testers, please put my name in the hat
                  for the Hat Light. I do lots of night hiking locally (SF Bay Area)
                  and would like to give it a try.

                  My three owner reviews are at:

                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Packs/Dana%
                  20Arcflex%20Terraplane%20/DanaArcFlexTerraplane.htm

                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Shelters/TNF%
                  20Slickrock%20Tent/SlickrockReview.htm

                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Water%
                  20Treatment/First%20Need%20Water%
                  20Purifier/FirstNeedReviewWithGraphic.htm

                  I have read the group regulations and agree to play by all the rules.

                  Thanks,

                  Bill Ward

                  --- In BackpackGearTest@y..., "GearTester" <geartester@e...> wrote:
                  > We've been asked to field test and evaluate a new, as yet unnamed
                  product. It is an LED light in the vaguely Photon style. It has an
                  on/off switch, lithium batteries (120 hr. burn time) and a hat bill
                  clip. It is white. For testing purposes it will be referred to as the
                  Hat Light. I've had 2 of them for a few days and it is the neatest
                  thing I've seen yet. No other light I know of works as well as this
                  one does as a bill (head light) light or hand light. The light
                  registers as 1/4 oz. on my scales and is very bright. The company
                  feels that two of these are the most effective hat configuration so
                  each tester will be provided 2 of them. Our job is to help polish
                  this product and ready it for market. The normal application process
                  will apply.
                  > Jerry
                  > Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed Qwest's ISP
                  customers, necessitating my new address. Sorry for the inconvenience.



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                • Larry Hillberg
                  Jerry I d like to apply for the hat light test. Female Wear glasses to read due to poor night vision Weight and age probably not important I would be attaching
                  Message 8 of 13 , Sep 21, 2001
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                    Jerry
                    I'd like to apply for the hat light test.
                    Female
                    Wear glasses to read due to poor night vision
                    Weight and age probably not important
                    I would be attaching the beta light to a regular round shade/rain hat.

                    I currently carry one yellow photon light primarily in case of emergency
                    night hiking and for reading maps after dark.  To date the only negative I
                    have found to the photon is its tendency to stay on and drain the battery if
                    it gets wet.  I learned this the hard way by giving it a bath as I knelt
                    over a stream to fill water bottles allowing the light, which is hung from
                    the cord of my hat, to dangle momentarily in the water.  A light attached to
                    the brim of my hat will be out of this particular harms way but will be
                    exposed to rain.

                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Trekking%20Poles/Leki%20Ultralite%20Ti%20Poles/Non-Tester%20Comments/Re%20%5BBackpackGearTest%5D%20Leki%20Ultralite%20Ti%20Series.htm

                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Shelters/MSR20Walrus%20Lightweight%20Tents/Non-Tester%20Comments/Walrus%20Zoid%201%20Comparison.htm
                    Thanks for your consideration
                    Helen

                  • Larry Hillberg
                    Oops, I forgot - I agree to comply with all requirements as set forth by you and the manufacturer re the Hat Light test. Helen
                    Message 9 of 13 , Sep 21, 2001
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                      Oops, I forgot - I agree to comply with all requirements as set forth by you and the manufacturer re the Hat Light test.
                      Helen
                    • GearTester
                      You re in. I m curious about the rain myself. One of my first suggestions to them as at least minimally water proof. Jerry Please note my new email address.
                      Message 10 of 13 , Sep 21, 2001
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                        You're in. I'm curious about the rain myself. One of my first suggestions to them as at least minimally water proof.
                        Jerry
                         

                         Please note my new email address. MSN has absorbed Qwest's ISP customers, necessitating my new address. Sorry for the inconvenience.

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: Larry Hillberg [mailto:hhloth@...]
                        Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:31 PM
                        To: BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [BackpackGearTest] Re: Beta Hat Light test

                        Jerry
                        I'd like to apply for the hat light test.
                        Female
                        Wear glasses to read due to poor night vision
                        Weight and age probably not important
                        I would be attaching the beta light to a regular round shade/rain hat.

                        I currently carry one yellow photon light primarily in case of emergency
                        night hiking and for reading maps after dark.  To date the only negative I
                        have found to the photon is its tendency to stay on and drain the battery if
                        it gets wet.  I learned this the hard way by giving it a bath as I knelt
                        over a stream to fill water bottles allowing the light, which is hung from
                        the cord of my hat, to dangle momentarily in the water.  A light attached to
                        the brim of my hat will be out of this particular harms way but will be
                        exposed to rain.

                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Trekking%20Poles/Leki%20Ultralite%20Ti%20Poles/Non-Tester%20Comments/Re%20%5BBackpackGearTest%5D%20Leki%20Ultralite%20Ti%20Series.htm

                        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Shelters/MSR20Walrus%20Lightweight%20Tents/Non-Tester%20Comments/Walrus%20Zoid%201%20Comparison.htm
                        Thanks for your consideration
                        Helen



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                      • Timothy Scott
                        Not sure if I am too late for this, I have been away for a few days, hiking of course. Still looking for a job. Ahh, life in high-tech. Application for Beta
                        Message 11 of 13 , Sep 21, 2001
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                          Not sure if I am too late for this, I have been away for a few days, hiking of
                          course. Still looking for a job. Ahh, life in high-tech.

                          Application for Beta Hat Light test:

                          Tim Scott
                          Nottingham, NH
                          Age 27 - Male - 6'0" - 200#
                          Backpacker for over 5 years, AT Thru-hiker, long distance hiker,
                          ultralightweight enthusiast, winter hiker in the Whites.

                          I would love to test these guys out. Currently, I own a turquois and yellow
                          Photon II lights. I use the yellow to read by, since it perserves night vision
                          and I use the turquois to walk by. I have sewed a piece of velcro onto a
                          baseball hat and glued another peice ot each Photos so that I can attach it to
                          my hat. Of course, I have to wear the same hat, or find some more velcro.

                          I will be testing these guys just about anywhere. Actually, my backyard is a
                          pretty good place since I live in the middle of nowhere and there is no ambiant
                          light visible (except for the stars and the moon). I would also test these on
                          any remaining backpacking trips that I take before the season is out here in
                          the Whites. In addition, I have an overnight planned for late October in the
                          DACKS>

                          What I would like to see: how long they burn for. The yellow Photon burns for
                          ~120 hours, but the turquois only lasts for ~14 hours. Also, the Photon II's
                          are not waterproof, I would like to see if the Hat Lights are. I would also
                          like to see if they work better than the turquios to walk by, which is barely
                          adequate. I like the idea of having two, and using only ONE most of the time.
                          That way, if one goes dead, the other one still has some life left. Below are
                          my links. Thanks Jerry, et al...

                          -Tim

                          About Me:
                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/message/3

                          My Reviews -

                          GVP Owner Review:
                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Packs/GVP%20G4%20Pack/G4_Ultra_Lite_Pack_Review.htm

                          Kahatoola Flexible Crampons:
                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Snow%20Traction%20Devices/Kahtoola%20Traction%20System/Tim%20Scott/Kahtoola%20Flexible%20Crampons%20Receipt%20of%20Item%20Report.htm

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Snow%20Traction%20Devices/Kahtoola%20Traction%20System/Tim%20Scott/Kahtoola%20Flexible%20Crampons%20First%20Impressions.htm

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Snow%20Traction%20Devices/Kahtoola%20Traction%20System/Tim%20Scott/Kahtoola%20Flexible%20Crampons%20First%20Field%20Test.htm

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Snow%20Traction%20Devices/Kahtoola%20Traction%20System/Tim%20Scott/Kahtoola%20Flexible%20Crampons%20Final.htm


                          PolarWrap Exchanger:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Clothing/PolarWrap%20Exchanger/Tim%20Scott/PolarWrap_FHC_Exchanger_Mask_initial.htm

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Clothing/PolarWrap%20Exchanger/Tim%20Scott/PolarWrap%20Exchanger%20Mask%20Field%20Test.htm

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BackpackGearTest/files/Clothing/PolarWrap%20Exchanger/Tim%20Scott/PolarWrap%20Final%20Report.htm





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                        • Larry Hillberg
                          Actually, my backyard is a ... ambiant ... Used to be me too til civilization crept in - I envy you. Helen
                          Message 12 of 13 , Sep 21, 2001
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                            Actually, my backyard is a
                            > pretty good place since I live in the middle of nowhere and there is no
                            ambiant
                            > light visible (except for the stars and the moon).

                            Used to be me too 'til' civilization crept in - I envy you.
                            Helen
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