Re: Member Edit: Long Term Report - Deuter Futura 32
--- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, "Fuzzy" <ckime@n...> wrote:
Wow that was restrained! Tired?
- --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, "colonelcorn76"
> --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, "Fuzzy" <ckime@n...> wrote:Tired? Yes. Life-changing events going on this month, as mentioned
> Wow that was restrained! Tired?
recently at Kampfire.
Restrained? Well, I saw what I saw. I didn't comment on style, only
specifics that I saw.
- --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, JimSabis@a... wrote:
> Fuzzy - Thanks for the edits and the restraint. I really expectedmuch more abuse (not that I actually deserve it, or anything!).
There really wasn't that much to say... of course, I could blame it
on being very tired. :->
> You can say Hi anytime! The 'time to kill' comment definitelyapplies, as I still have three reports due tonite and over the next
week or so, plus the editing and uploads that come with it.
Everything seems to have come due at once!
That's what you get for being a newbie who got additional tests
anyway... feels good, don't it?
> After the wave passes, I want to start learning a bit about HTMLand formatting to pretty up my reports a bit. Your new ones are
looking real nice, by the way!
Thanks. I actually hand-code my HTML. Once I have a basic HTML
format figured out, I just cut-and-paste the text from my Word
version into the HTML version. It isn't a fancy interface by any
means, but I have been programming in one form or another since I was
13, so I am comfortable with raw code.
> All this and I'm trying to put together a 3 day hike this weekendto field test the Brasslite Turbo II-D stove!
My big field test for Mama's Kitchen was Pikes Peak, which was only a
one-day hike, but... hoo boy, what a day! That, and the 4-5 hours I
spent measuring and timing on my stove for the boil time comparisons.
> Great fun!!That's why we do it, right?
> Jim S.
- Hey Jim,
Here's the EDIT (required), Edit (suggested), and Comments (nits).
Once you've fixed this, upload at will.
Welcome to the graybeards.
--- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, JimSabis@a... wrote:
> A brief squeak of the bag pipes...
#### Comment: Bagpipes don't squeak. They deliver a melliflous
harmonization of the vocal efforts of many cacaphonous cats squeezed
to a fair-thee-well of their lives.
> Long Term Report - Deuter Futura 32 Daypack
#### Edit: A date is helpful in the headers (e.g. 2nd line).
> Reviewer Information
#### Comment: Assuming this is a Yahooism.
> Name: Jim Sabiston
> Date: September 30th, 2003
#### Comment: Ditto all the extra lines. If not, tighten this up a
bit by deleting the extra CR/LFs.
> Backpacking Background:
> not quite ultralight. I use a hammock or tarp for warm weather,
and a small four
> season tent for winter trips. Most of my other gear is very
changeable, as I
#### Edit: "four season" is acceptable but "four-season" is
> Product Information:
> Manufacturer: Deuter
> Listed weight: 3 lbs. 5 oz. (1.5 kg)
> Weight as purchased: 3 lbs. 4.75 Ounces (1.49 kg)
> Volume: 1950 cu. in. (32 L)
#### EDIT: the "." is superfluous in all of these. Ounces should be
abbreviated consistent with the rest (oz). "lbs" or "lb" is
acceptable although "lb" is preferred. Am assuming excessive line
spacing is Yahooism else, you can strip the extras here too to
tighten up the look of the report. Ditto in the section below
> Pack Body: Deuter-Super-Polytex.
> Frame: Powder coated spring steel.
#### Edit: "Powder-coated" is usually hyphenated but not required.
> Suspension: Foam cored shoulder straps and hip wings. Nylon
#### Edit: Ditto "Foam-cored" as this can be viewed as a compound
word descriptive of the straps. Your call.
> The Deuter Futura 32 Day Pack:
> The Deuter Futura 32 Day Pack is a rugged day pack with many well
#### EDIT: I don't think there is necessarily a standard yet
for "daypack" but it's more frequently presented as a single word by
retailers (and consistent with what you use in the rest of this
> features. As listed on the Deuter web site, these features include
#### EDIT: "website" appears to have taken over from the technically
correct "Web site" (Web being capitalized as it's a proper noun
referring to the World Wide Web). So either "Web site" or "website"
should be used. (Source: American Heritage Dictionary)
> suspension. This design uses bowed spring steel bars to create an
air space between
#### Edit: This context probably begs the use of the
compound "spring-steel" modifier. Your call.
> the pack body and your back, allowing air to circulate and keeping
#### EDIT: Unless this is a direct quote from Deuter (in which case
enclose it in quotation marks), try to rephrase without "your" --
it's almost impossible to get into projecting if you don't use the
words "you" or "yours" and saves me from trying to define the
slippery slope where it moves from common style (probable case here)
to projecting (no-no).
> For more detailed information, please refer to my Initial Report
> Reports, also on the BGT site.
#### Edit: Good idea to hyperlink these & include anything of
significant importance here so this can stand alone.
> Over the last six months, the Deuter Futura 32 has become an
> of my equipment inventory. It's many well thought-out features,
#### EDIT: "its" -- possessive case rather than contractual
form. "Thought out" is generally not a compound word but is a style
> solid construction help to make this a very adaptable pack.
Labeled a daypack,
> the Futura 32 has excelled in this application, especially in
> when a bit more equipment is carried. During the warmer months, it
has proven to
#### EDIT: "was carried" -- you're mixing tenses in your sentence
("has" is past tense).
> The Air-comfort Suspension:
#### EDIT: Deuter calls it "Aircomfort"
> While the Deuter Futura 32 sports many excellent details, the most
> outstanding feature is the Air-comfort Suspension. By simply
separating the pack body
#### EDIT: "Aircomfort"
> seakayak. The stiff metal frame of the Air-comfort suspension was
#### EDIT: "Aircomfort"
> Fit and Load Carrying Ability:
> small for me. Non-the-less, due to the quality materials used in
#### EDIT: "Nonetheless"
> Normal daypack loads, even in Winter, pose no problem at all. Warm
#### EDIT: "winter" - season names have become common nouns vs.
proper ones requiring capitalization.
> and food for several overnight trips in warm and cool weather in
#### EDIT: extra spaces between "several" and "overnight"
> comfort. I am convinced that I could manage a three or four day
warm weather trip
#### Edit: I've vacillated on commenting on this. Typically reports
should only state facts. While it may be a fact that you are
convinced, it would be better if you were able to back that up by
specific tests (e.g. fill the pack with your typical 3 day warm
weather gear list) or by caveating the comment by saying something
like "Based on my typical gear requirements and my experience so
far, I am convinced..."
> is a daypack after all. If size becomes an issue, its time to
#### EDIT: "it's time" -- contractual form this time
> climbing. The only exceptions were two I quart Nalgene water
bottles in the outside
#### EDIT: "1 quart Nalgene", I believe the Romans have died out.
> mesh pockets, but these are stable enough as to not cause a
problem. I did
> manage to fit everything in the pack, but that was all it was
going to take.
#### Comment: Then that implies you merely found the upper limit
rather than discovered a flaw or shortcoming. Or was there something
you wanted to pack but couldn't?
> Sleeping Bag Compartment:
> - TNF Flight sleeping bag, inside an Outdoor Research small
> (just fits)
> Main Body Compartment:
> - Platypus 2 Liter water bag (empty or full, as needed)
#### EDIT: "liter" doesn't need to be capitalized
> - Food bag (snacks, breakfast , dinner, SnowPeak double-walled
#### EDIT: extra space before & after comma preceding "dinner"
> - Therm-rest 3/4 Ultra-lite self-inflating sleeping pad
#### EDIT: "Therm-a-Rest" is a registered trademark and should be
spelled only in this form.
> - Outdoor Research 16 oz. (473 ml) bottle cozy with Lexan
#### EDIT: As with "ml" the abbreviation for ounces doesn't require
a "." following it.
> - 100 feet (30.48 m) of Â¼ inch (6.35 mm)cored rope (you never
#### EDIT: missing space between ) and "cored"
> The load, with all that water, approached 35 lbs. (15.88 kg). The
#### EDIT: "35 lb" or "35 lbs"
> Fuzzy - Thanks for the edits and the restraint. I reallyUh huh. Now move this to Kampfire before I sick Leesa on you.
> expected much more abuse (not that I actually deserve it, or
Acting List Moderator
- In a message dated 10/1/2003 12:12:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Hey Jim,Thanks! 6 months went by pretty quick!
> Here's the EDIT (required), Edit (suggested), and Comments (nits).
> Once you've fixed this, upload at will.
> Welcome to the graybeards.
>Indeed. Is there a more melodious sound? I think not!
> --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, JimSabis@a... wrote:
> > A brief squeak of the bag pipes...
> #### Comment: Bagpipes don't squeak. They deliver a melliflous
> harmonization of the vocal efforts of many cacaphonous cats squeezed
> to a fair-thee-well of their lives.
Be there some Scot in yer blood?
The simple Hippocratic oath - 'First, do no harm' - is a far, far more
radical sentence in the history of thought than it seems. It recognizes the
existance of evil - illness - that in many ways is beyond our control. It is the
opposite of magical thinking, witch-doctor think, which promises to make well, to
cure. 'Do no harm' is the truly radical sentence; 'Cultivate your garden' the
unforgivable one. - Andre Glucksmann
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- --- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, JimSabis@a... wrote:
> > #### Comment: Bagpipes don't squeak. They deliver a mellifloussqueezed
> > harmonization of the vocal efforts of many cacaphonous cats
> > to a fair-thee-well of their lives.I love 'em but for some reason my wife doesn't. But then she's got a
> Indeed. Is there a more melodious sound? I think not!
> Be there some Scot in yer blood?
> ; )
> Jim S.
Polish/Italian heritage vs. having the heather in her blood.
My son on the other hand appears to have inherited an appropriate
appreciation for the pipes (including wanting to learn to play).