Re: [BackpackGearTest] This group
- At 09:26 AM 01/07/2003, you wrote:
>Now the moderators are jumping down the throats of people trying to helpAs this comment refers to me personally ... only ONE moderator made a
>with editing. It is just plain nasty.
comment and it was me, not moderatorS as Shaun states, I am going to respond.
As to your comments, I welcome your suggestions on how I could have better
expressed my sentiments. You might also find it useful to read my more
recent posting on the topic which I had hope clarified where I was coming
from. Of-course more detailed reading of the archives would also be helpful.
>Another thing I have noticed is the amount of unsolicited mail theAgain Shaun, please take a little bit of trouble to get your story right
>moderators send to other groups (ie spam). It would be great to find a
>camping group that is not attacked with new test results all the time
before accusing folks of spamming. Only one moderator is involved, me, not
moderatorS as you state INCORRECTLY. As to your comments, I am more than
happy to discuss them in an appropriate manner in the group or groups
concerned. Why not take this particular discussion there? I am sure it is
in a group where I have no moderator role so you should feel comfortable
about expressing your views. As I have stated elsewhere when this issue
has been brought up by DaveF (e.g., in aus.bushwalking) I am more than
happy to withdraw from posting notices of gear test completions to specific
groups if the group or moderator deems this appropriate.
One last point, for everyone's clarification. In aus.bushwalking where this
discussion has taken place, the group's view as expressed was in support of
the postings. I don't know, Shaun, if you are a member there or not, but if
you are, I don't recall you contributing to the discussion.
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- While this probably has nothing to do with anything, I'd like to
make an observation for the record...
We're all people here, and as people we all have different hopes,
dreams, desires, and needs. We also sometimes wake up on the wrong
side of the bed. (Of course, in Andrew's case, he wakes up on the
wrong side of the planet... ;) )
I've said it before, but you get out of BGT what you put into it -
and that has nothing to do with gear.
The Mods all put in a lot of work, most of it invisible, and much of
it thankless. There is the somewhat accurate belief that being a
Mod gives you certain perks. The best of these perks also has
nothing to do with gear. The best of the perks for me is being
involved in something that I believe to be very important to the
backpacking community as a whole.
So, while some people come here, don't get what they think they
want, and then begin to bitch, those people are a very small
minority. They probably need some kind of professional help in any
What I have seen, however, and nobody else has seen, is the large
amount of work that has gone into the new Survival Guide. I'm not
talking about MY work, I'm talkin about Andy, Scott, Fuzzy, Roger,
Risk, and one or two other people who have put in a lot of hours to
help shape, mold, and edit it. Some of them have been willing to
spend hours on the phone with me discussing it. It's long, hard,
and thankless work - but it's work that needs to be done, and I, for
one, am glad to have such capable people with positive attitudes to
While not everyone can help in that way, everyone can be the best
tester that they can be. BGT is a rising tide that lifts all boats.
Don't let a few pirates distract you.
- Shane Steinkamp wrote:
> (Of course, in Andrew's case, he wakes up on theI can't resist... :-)
> wrong side of the planet... ;) )
Andrew may be on the wrong side of the continent, but from our
collective perspective (love the aliteration) definitely the better
side of the planet!
(It's raining, and I am recovering from the flu, and have had to
postpone a XC ski trip, and am bored...)
- Roger Caffin wrote:
>I can't resist either :)
> I can't resist... :-)
> Andrew may be on the wrong side of the continent, but from our
> collective perspective (love the aliteration) definitely the better
> side of the planet!
I used to have a cubicle mate from Oz. Whenever he pulled out a map,
he put south at the top and then cursed why all us Yanks always
printed the names of towns upside down on the map. He had a globe in
his home... you guessed how it was mounted didn't you?