Jag Bag -John's Third Review
- Jag Bag Review
Report 3 - 06/01/01
Testing Silk Bag Liner from Jag Bag
Style: Hi Tech in Violet Endura-weight silk
I used the silk bag liner on a 3-day backpacking trip in the Ventana
Wilderness (Big Sur, CA). The weather was really nice: clear and the days
didn't get hotter than the low 80s. Saturday, sleeping on some sand with
open skies at the edge of a meadow, we awoke to 40 degree temperatures.
Sunday, sleeping on redwood duff under towering redwoods, we woke to 49
degree temperatures. Both nights, I was in the Hi Tech liner with a North
Face bag as a quilt, a full-length Ridgerest pad under me, and a tarp under
the pad. Did not have any dew/condensation on the bag either morning.
I liked sleeping with a silk liner more that a cotton liner. I'll never go
back. Since it never really got cold, it was hard to judge the liner's
impact on my overall warmth.
Our trip was hellish in some ways. The hell as it relates to the bag test
was poison oak and biting flying things. From our first steps to our last,
we were assaulted with poison oak in, across, over, ahead, and around the
trail. At one point, we were pushing through the trail in thick, chest-high
poison oak, for quite a ways. I've got the technique to avoid getting
poison oak down pretty well, but part of the technique is being justifiably
paranoid about poison oak oil being on *everything*. I had camp clothes,
but I'm still worried that somehow there's poison oak oil on my liner.
I washed my liner using ionic disks, rather than detergent, since I don't
have any mild detergent, and in cold water to boot, as directed. IF there's
poison oak oil on the liner, I'm pretty sure that the washing will not get
it out. I guess I'll find out when I next use it. I may do a test with
Tecnu. The liner washed and dried wonderfully.
The package says, "This silk liner will protect you from biting insects."
Well, when it was in my pack it did not protect me from biting insects :-).
Even when I was in the liner, I think I got several bites through it. If
those mosquitoes, biting flies, and other unnamed nuisances were biting
through my shirt, I would have had a lot more bites. Instead, I have just a
few that could have happened when the bugs subsided after dark. I'm not
certain about this. It's just a theory. It won't keep me from using the
I'm very happy with my new, lightweight silk bag liner.
As a side note, I avoided poison oak, but my hiking partner didn't.
- --- In BackpackGearTest@y..., "John Brennan" <john@f...> wrote:
> I washed my liner using ionic disks, rather than detergent, since Idon't
> have any mild detergent, and in cold water to boot, as directed.IF there's
> poison oak oil on the liner, I'm pretty sure that the washing willnot get
> it out. I guess I'll find out when I next use it. I may do a testwith
> Tecnu.I'm not up to date on all the washing products out there. For
delicate material all I know of is Woolite and hand washing. Please
inlighten me as to what ionic disk are and also Tecnu.
> As a side note, I avoided poison oak, but my hiking partner didn't.In my younger days I worked as a tree trimmer and my wife would get
pison oak and ivy just handling my clothes to wash. She started
making me do my own laundry. The only time I ever got a rash was once
when clearing some pasture and burning the brush which had piosin oak
in it I got a bad case (head to toe) I guess from the smoke?
- These ionic laundry disks are a little strange, but for light,
everyday washing, alternating wash loads between disks and laundry
soap saves money and is lighter on the environment. For really dirty
loads, I stick with the soap. These disks contain something, they
look like irregular chunks of ceramic, that add or remove ions fr the
water. Whatever they do, the reported result is that they reduce the
surface tension in the water like soap does, allowing dirt to slip
away. Since there's nothing to rinse, the regular rinse cycle serves
as a second wash. Now, this is my understanding, but I'm not
scientist, and it may be a case of "a little knowldege is a bad
thing." They seem to clean my lightly soiled clothes, and that's what
counts. I could be that if I didn't include either the disk or soap,
that my clothes would get just as clean.
Tecnu is a brand of soap designed to get poison oak oil off. I use it
in laundry and in the shower. This weekend I'll use it on my hiking
Burning poison oak is a great way to get it.
> > I washed my liner using ionic disks, rather than detergent, <snip><snip> Please inlighten me as to what ionic disk are and also Tecnu.
> >I may do a test with Tecnu.
><snip> I guess from the smoke?
> Coy Boy