52748Re: EDIT: Initial Report for Equinox Katahdin Pack - Michael Lissner
- Jun 2, 2004See responses below...
--- In BackpackGearTest@yahoogroups.com, Cora <cahhmc@y...> wrote:
> Thanks, Mike.
> I am glad things are finally working out and settling
> down for you. I hope Berkeley is treating you well.
####It is indeed. Very well in fact. I do love the summertime.
> It seems like you've done a lot of great research for
> this IR, good work. My Edits and Comments follow.
> > Advertised Weight: 264 g (22 oz)*
> Edit: 22 oz is not 264 g
> > Measured Weight: ?????????????????**
> Edit: Please actually put a weight here for upload :)
> > the Equinox web-site, the weight is not given. On
> > the Campmor
> > web-site, the weight is given as 709 g (25 oz). On
> > backcountrygear.com, it's given as 567 g (20 oz).
> > The weight I have
> > listed above is what Equinox put on their hang tag
> > which came with the
> > pack.
> Comment: BGT tends to try to stay away from mentioning
> vendors in this way. Equinox shouldn't need to be
> held accountable for the errors of their retailers,
> and so just putting the advertised weight on the hang
> tag would be sufficient.
####I wondered about this when I included it. It's fixed in the new
> > five pockets in all: One central pocket that opens
> > at the top with a
> > drawstring for dumping all of your big items into;
> Edit: Bringing the style over from owner review
> editing, the word "you" and all derivatives should not
> be used in reviews. It has been viewed to be
> equivalent to projecting. You can simply replace all
> the uses of it with "me", "my" and derivatives. Of
> course, when you are telling your reader to look at
> pictures and whatnot, it's fine; just avoid it in
> telling the reader what they should/n't do with gear.
###After having written a few owner reviews, I have the you/your fears
well engrained in my mind, so I knew I was breaking rules when I wrote
this. I thought I might be able to get away with it since it is so far
removed from real projecting. Ah well. It's been fixed.
> > My other
> > pack, the Granite
> > Gear Vapor Trail is made from a heavier weight of
> > the material, and it
> > has held up beautifully,
> Comment: This is getting sort of close to a shoot-out.
> Perhaps consider saying simply that you have another
> pack with similar, heavier material and that it has
> done fine?
> > material also seems kind of unusual to me, but,
> > having never had an
> > ultralight pack before, it could just be something I
> > have never seen.
> Comment: Just a note (don't want to impinge on style),
> but you just mentioned above that you use the Vapor
> Trail, which is pretty lightweight. I sure did a
> double take when you said you never owned such a pack.
###Since I no longer say that my other pack is a GG Vapor Trail (b/c
of the comment you made above), this isn't as much of a problem, but
from what I understand, an ultralight pack usually weighs in at closer
to one pound, whereas the Vapor Trail weighs in at 2, a lightweight pack.
> > and some stakes and then tighten the strap, the
> > stakes will get
> > smashed into the DEET and the compass, potentially
> > creating all kinds
> > of navigational and messy problems.
> Comment: I didn't quite catch this... did you
> actually experiment with DEET and stakes, or are you
###I guess I am projecting, but only in so much as I would do if I
were to say that a knife can cut the material. I'll make it more
> > about them though: If
> > you put small or skinny things in them, these items
> > will fall out
> > through the mesh.
> Edit: Another case of the dreaded "you"...
> > can be adjusted vertically to create accomodate a
> Edit: ...accommodate...
> > ice ax loop and D rings on the shoudler straps. It
> Edit: ...shoulder..
Thanks for the edits. I am glad they got to me tonight, as tomorrow I
am headed out to test the pack. The file should be uploaded tomorrow,
once I have weighed the pack.
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