201Re: [backpackgeartest] Re: Digest Number 30
- Oct 18, 2000I remember the incident now. I believe that was Clark (The Jungle Hammock). He is in Salt Lake City. I contacted them myself. Never heard anymore about it. It was definitely NOT Hennessy. The only thing Hennessy expects in return is posted reports, good, bad or indifferent, about their hammocks. They want to know if and how well it addresses the wants and needs of the target user and they want exposure for a new product. I don't think they are worried about bad reports. Tom has offered 6 of his new Light Weight Backpacker models for testing. They weight 1 pound 8 oz. They are currently making the flys for them and don't expect to have any available for testing for about 2 weeks. As I get along with Tom Hennessy very well, I would be willing to try it again. I know people got ticked when I expressed my dismay at the lack of reports. As they don't have to try to talk manufacturers into giving one to two thousand dollars worth of gear to people they don't know in hopes they will get usable feedback and exposure I'm sure it is an easy criticism to make. If we proceed with this it would have to be with the understanding that AT LEAST 3 reports are required from EVERY tester. The first report would be sent immediately upon receipt of the gear. It would just have to state that the gear was received and what condition it was received in. It would also tell if the product was complete with all necessary components and instructions. The second report would have to be posted within 3 days of receipt of the gear. It would cover first impressions, easy of assembly, set up, or what ever was required by the instructions for first use. It would comment on the instructions themselves, both their clarity and completeness. The third report would have to be posted within 30 days. It would cover at least one trip actually using the piece of gear. It would cover the testers reaction, good or bad. Such things as ease of use, how well the gear performed its function, how different or better/worse it performed that function compared to other similar gear used in the past by the tester. Any pros or cons would have to be supported by specific statements so we could all understand why it did or didn't work. Obviously, a tester could post as many reports as they liked but these three basics would be required. What do you all think about creating some kind of form for each of these reports using check boxes or what ever to make it easy? If these requirements seem unreasonable then maybe this wasn't such a good idea. I can't see how I can get manufacturers to cooperate with out these minimum reports. This is not a list for general discussion on backpacking or trips. There are other lists, some mentioned, that do that job much better. I belong to some of them myself. This list is just for testing and reporting on new gear, period. If there are no reports there is no point in the list.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerry Gladu
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 10:58 AM
Subject: [backpackgeartest] Re: Digest Number 30
"Gear Tester" <geartester@h...> wrote:
>> From: Orange Bug
>> The hammock offer has been made in the past in a way that has
>> suggested spamming to seek interest in a product on other lists.
> ?? not sure I understand what you mean about spamming.
I think that this refers to the email offer that Hennessy sent out
earlier this year that was generated from the member lists of
BackpackingLight and other lists that allowed you to test their
hammock, file a report, then buy the hammock at a reduced price if
you liked it. Or something like that. I forget the details.
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