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Re: ES 1A Head Pressure Modulator

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  • sh8knj8kster
    ... ~~~~That may be all you need. Have you made espresso with these new parts yet? Jake Reddick Fla. My great grandfather was an old indian fighter...he was
    Message 1 of 11 , Jun 1, 2010
      --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@...> wrote:





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      > Just opened the package from Quality Espresso. The hex piece was 47mm overall. That put a portion of the filter (new style modulator) up into the head screw, but not the entire filter screen.





      ~~~~That may be all you need. Have you made espresso with these new parts yet?






      Jake
      Reddick Fla.
      My great grandfather was an old indian fighter...he was married to an old indian...




      http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/





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      > Just opened the package from Quality Espresso. The hex piece was 47mm overall. That put a portion of the filter (new style modulator) up into the head screw, but not the entire filter screen. I'm thinking that if QE has a longer hex piece I should go with it so that the entire filter screen and top of the injector resides within the the head screw. I'm also thinking that 55mm would just about do that. Does that sound reasonable to you, Tex?
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      > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
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      > > Here's the hex fitting from one of my machines: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BUG-is-Bunn/photos/album/298077807/pic/2045361206/view , it's 55mm long.
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      > > Tex
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      > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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      > > > My machine came without the hex fitting. The most recent one that I've purchased, and the longest, is 28mm long excluding the threaded section. If yours is longer, that's my problem. Would appreciate that length. The other part (injector) appears to be a standard size. Thanks jack in burien
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      > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
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      > > > > All of the ES-1A groups I've seen have been the same. The ES-2A machines don't have this group and I believe they use the shorter parts.
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      > > > > Looking at this image: http://www.cafeparts.com/productDetail2.asp?CatID=1429 , did your machine not have the long hex fitting that doesn't have a number? I'll take mine apart this weekend (it's due for a cleaning) and I'll measure the parts and post images of them laid out. Maybe if you contact Cafe Parts or EPNW with this info you can get the correct parts?
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      > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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      > > > > > Well, I need some new direction. I ordered the kit for the new style pressure modulator for the head. It does not fit. The top of the screen is a full 1/2 inch short of reaching the cap, let alone extending into the cap. Is there a possibility that the head on this machine is not original? As of now, the head is clean and going back on the machine. Not sure how to proceed for putting a modulator back in. jack in burien :-(
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    • sh8knj8kster
      ... ~~~~~~Tex, From what Larry Hudoff (da man @ quality espresso USA) told me a while back...all they need to match up the correct parts for any Gaggia built
      Message 2 of 11 , Jun 1, 2010
        --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@...> wrote:
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        > I can't visualize it - if it was me I'd probably box the group up and send it to QE for fitting. I'm having a similar problem with Rudy of Cafe Parts - we seem to be on different wave lengths,
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        > Tex
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        ~~~~~~Tex, From what Larry Hudoff (da man @ quality espresso USA) told me a while back...all they need to match up the correct parts for any Gaggia built machine is the info on the tag that accompanies every machine they manufacture. I recall Larry telling me he had to confer with the engineers in Spain to insure I was getting the right parts for my group but to do so he asked for the all the referrence #'s on my machine's identification tag, which he then forwarded to Gaggia engineering via email I would assume...as an attachment


        FWIW, the info tag on my Rimini was a mylar type sticker affixed to the lower stainless steel trim panel beneath the drip tray (attached on the side) When I sent that and the other trim panels out to the hydro coaters in ID for refinishing, that sticker was removed but I have several photos (jpegs) so I forwarded one of those pics to Larry so he could verify with engineering in Spain...that I was getting the correct parts


        Here's a pic of the tag on my Rimini-


        http://www.flickr.com/photos/26137108@N04/4659349063/


        If you click on 'All Sizes' just above the photo, then click on 'Original' ...you will be able to read every bit of information on that tag






        Jake
        Reddick Fla.
        Being drunk is feeling sophisticated without being able to say it




        http://www.shakinjake.blogspot.com/




        > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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        > > Just opened the package from Quality Espresso. The hex piece was 47mm overall. That put a portion of the filter (new style modulator) up into the head screw, but not the entire filter screen. I'm thinking that if QE has a longer hex piece I should go with it so that the entire filter screen and top of the injector resides within the the head screw. I'm also thinking that 55mm would just about do that. Does that sound reasonable to you, Tex?
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        > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
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        > > > Here's the hex fitting from one of my machines: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BUG-is-Bunn/photos/album/298077807/pic/2045361206/view , it's 55mm long.
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        > > > Tex
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        > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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        > > > > My machine came without the hex fitting. The most recent one that I've purchased, and the longest, is 28mm long excluding the threaded section. If yours is longer, that's my problem. Would appreciate that length. The other part (injector) appears to be a standard size. Thanks jack in burien
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        > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
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        > > > > > All of the ES-1A groups I've seen have been the same. The ES-2A machines don't have this group and I believe they use the shorter parts.
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        > > > > > Looking at this image: http://www.cafeparts.com/productDetail2.asp?CatID=1429 , did your machine not have the long hex fitting that doesn't have a number? I'll take mine apart this weekend (it's due for a cleaning) and I'll measure the parts and post images of them laid out. Maybe if you contact Cafe Parts or EPNW with this info you can get the correct parts?
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        > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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        > > > > > > Well, I need some new direction. I ordered the kit for the new style pressure modulator for the head. It does not fit. The top of the screen is a full 1/2 inch short of reaching the cap, let alone extending into the cap. Is there a possibility that the head on this machine is not original? As of now, the head is clean and going back on the machine. Not sure how to proceed for putting a modulator back in. jack in burien :-(
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      • jack_burien
        No epresso yet. The hex piece is too short and allows the filter screen to float free of the injector. I talked to Larry at QE this am and he is checking
        Message 3 of 11 , Jun 1, 2010
          No epresso yet. The hex piece is too short and allows the filter screen to float free of the injector. I talked to Larry at QE this am and he is checking into the 55mm hex piece I need. More info when I hear back. j :-)

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          > > Just opened the package from Quality Espresso. The hex piece was 47mm overall. That put a portion of the filter (new style modulator) up into the head screw, but not the entire filter screen. I'm thinking that if QE has a longer hex piece I should go with it so that the entire filter screen and top of the injector resides within the the head screw. I'm also thinking that 55mm would just about do that. Does that sound reasonable to you, Tex?
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          > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
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          > > > Here's the hex fitting from one of my machines: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BUG-is-Bunn/photos/album/298077807/pic/2045361206/view , it's 55mm long.
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          > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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          > > > > My machine came without the hex fitting. The most recent one that I've purchased, and the longest, is 28mm long excluding the threaded section. If yours is longer, that's my problem. Would appreciate that length. The other part (injector) appears to be a standard size. Thanks jack in burien
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          > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
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          > > > > > All of the ES-1A groups I've seen have been the same. The ES-2A machines don't have this group and I believe they use the shorter parts.
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          > > > > > Looking at this image: http://www.cafeparts.com/productDetail2.asp?CatID=1429 , did your machine not have the long hex fitting that doesn't have a number? I'll take mine apart this weekend (it's due for a cleaning) and I'll measure the parts and post images of them laid out. Maybe if you contact Cafe Parts or EPNW with this info you can get the correct parts?
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          > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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          > > > > > > Well, I need some new direction. I ordered the kit for the new style pressure modulator for the head. It does not fit. The top of the screen is a full 1/2 inch short of reaching the cap, let alone extending into the cap. Is there a possibility that the head on this machine is not original? As of now, the head is clean and going back on the machine. Not sure how to proceed for putting a modulator back in. jack in burien :-(
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        • Tex
          OK, I ll admit to being a hacker, but I d just head out to the hardware store and look for a s/s or bronze spring that would fit inside the filter and has
          Message 4 of 11 , Jun 2, 2010
            OK, I'll admit to being a hacker, but I'd just head out to the hardware store and look for a s/s or bronze spring that would fit inside the filter and has enough tension to lightly hold it in place.

            Tex

            --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@...> wrote:
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            > No epresso yet. The hex piece is too short and allows the filter screen to float free of the injector. I talked to Larry at QE this am and he is checking into the 55mm hex piece I need. More info when I hear back. j :-)
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            > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "sh8knj8kster" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
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            > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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            > > > Just opened the package from Quality Espresso. The hex piece was 47mm overall. That put a portion of the filter (new style modulator) up into the head screw, but not the entire filter screen.
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            > > ~~~~That may be all you need. Have you made espresso with these new parts yet?
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            > > Jake
            > > Reddick Fla.
            > > My great grandfather was an old indian fighter...he was married to an old indian...
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            > > > Just opened the package from Quality Espresso. The hex piece was 47mm overall. That put a portion of the filter (new style modulator) up into the head screw, but not the entire filter screen. I'm thinking that if QE has a longer hex piece I should go with it so that the entire filter screen and top of the injector resides within the the head screw. I'm also thinking that 55mm would just about do that. Does that sound reasonable to you, Tex?
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            > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
            > > > >
            > > > > Here's the hex fitting from one of my machines: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BUG-is-Bunn/photos/album/298077807/pic/2045361206/view , it's 55mm long.
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            > > > > Tex
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            > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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            > > > > > My machine came without the hex fitting. The most recent one that I've purchased, and the longest, is 28mm long excluding the threaded section. If yours is longer, that's my problem. Would appreciate that length. The other part (injector) appears to be a standard size. Thanks jack in burien
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            > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Tex" <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
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            > > > > > > All of the ES-1A groups I've seen have been the same. The ES-2A machines don't have this group and I believe they use the shorter parts.
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            > > > > > > Looking at this image: http://www.cafeparts.com/productDetail2.asp?CatID=1429 , did your machine not have the long hex fitting that doesn't have a number? I'll take mine apart this weekend (it's due for a cleaning) and I'll measure the parts and post images of them laid out. Maybe if you contact Cafe Parts or EPNW with this info you can get the correct parts?
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            > > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "jack_burien" <jack_burien@> wrote:
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            > > > > > > > Well, I need some new direction. I ordered the kit for the new style pressure modulator for the head. It does not fit. The top of the screen is a full 1/2 inch short of reaching the cap, let alone extending into the cap. Is there a possibility that the head on this machine is not original? As of now, the head is clean and going back on the machine. Not sure how to proceed for putting a modulator back in. jack in burien :-(
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