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  • fischertim@rocketmail.com
    Howdy, Been happily pulling 6 to 8 doubles a day with my ES-1 for several months. Yesterday something happened with the pump. The pitch changed when pulling
    Message 1 of 4 , Jul 25, 2009
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      Howdy,

      Been happily pulling 6 to 8 doubles a day with my ES-1 for several months. Yesterday something happened with the pump. The pitch changed when pulling a shot, hard to put into words but there was a distinct difference not only in the pitch of the pump but also in the snap or lack thereof of the 3-way. I did some monkeying around with some minor pressure adjustments of the pump based on what the built-in guage was telling me. I know, the gauges aren't supposed to be overly accurate but last time I adjusted the pump it was spot on with the built in gauge. In any event, I was still pulling garbage at this point so I threw my portafilter gauge on and sure enough, the pressure was way low. So I'm shooting for 145 psi static on the gauge. My question is, within about 3 seconds of hitting the continuous button I am up to about 145 psi but if I let it run at that point, it continues to climb quite slowly all the way up to maybe 180 psi in about 30 seconds. I'm wondering if this is normal or if this is a sign that my pump is on the way out. If it is normal, do I set the pressure so it stops climbing at 145 after 30 seconds or based on where it spins up to in the initial 3 seconds? Honestly can't remember if it did this when I did my inital pressure test several months ago... Something tells me it didn't and I'm going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon.
    • Jake Wilson
      ... Something tells me it didn t and I m going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon. ... ~~~It s real easy to spend someone else s money but the good news
      Message 2 of 4 , Jul 26, 2009
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        --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "fischertim@..." <fischertim@...> wrote:





        Something tells me it didn't and I'm going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon.
        >





        ~~~It's real easy to spend someone else's money but the good news is, if you don't want to rebuild the pump yourself, you'll probably get out for under $60 with J&E Beverage doing the work (including their shipping). I have about $70 into the procon pump rebuild they did for me including my shipping costs to them



        Jake
        Reddick Fla.




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        > Howdy,
        >
        > Been happily pulling 6 to 8 doubles a day with my ES-1 for several months. Yesterday something happened with the pump. The pitch changed when pulling a shot, hard to put into words but there was a distinct difference not only in the pitch of the pump but also in the snap or lack thereof of the 3-way. I did some monkeying around with some minor pressure adjustments of the pump based on what the built-in guage was telling me. I know, the gauges aren't supposed to be overly accurate but last time I adjusted the pump it was spot on with the built in gauge. In any event, I was still pulling garbage at this point so I threw my portafilter gauge on and sure enough, the pressure was way low. So I'm shooting for 145 psi static on the gauge. My question is, within about 3 seconds of hitting the continuous button I am up to about 145 psi but if I let it run at that point, it continues to climb quite slowly all the way up to maybe 180 psi in about 30 seconds. I'm wondering if this is normal or if this is a sign that my pump is on the way out. If it is normal, do I set the pressure so it stops climbing at 145 after 30 seconds or based on where it spins up to in the initial 3 seconds? Honestly can't remember if it did this when I did my inital pressure test several months ago... Something tells me it didn't and I'm going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon.
        >
      • Tim Fischer
        Still had them bookmarked from when I did the initial tear-down of the machine. I m hoping it will limp by for another week or so until I leave town for
        Message 3 of 4 , Jul 27, 2009
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          Still had them bookmarked from when I did the initial tear-down of the machine. I'm hoping it will limp by for another week or so until I leave town for vacation. Seems the perfect time to send the pump off and hopefully the rebuild will address the issue.




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          From: Jake Wilson <sh8knj8k@...>
          To: BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:53:11 PM
          Subject: [BUG] Re: setting the pump pressure


          --- In BUG-is-Bunn@ yahoogroups. com, "fischertim@ ..." <fischertim@ ...> wrote:

          Something tells me it didn't and I'm going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon.
          >

          ~~~It's real easy to spend someone else's money but the good news is, if you don't want to rebuild the pump yourself, you'll probably get out for under $60 with J&E Beverage doing the work (including their shipping). I have about $70 into the procon pump rebuild they did for me including my shipping costs to them

          Jake
          Reddick Fla.

          >
          > Howdy,
          >
          > Been happily pulling 6 to 8 doubles a day with my ES-1 for several months. Yesterday something happened with the pump. The pitch changed when pulling a shot, hard to put into words but there was a distinct difference not only in the pitch of the pump but also in the snap or lack thereof of the 3-way. I did some monkeying around with some minor pressure adjustments of the pump based on what the built-in guage was telling me. I know, the gauges aren't supposed to be overly accurate but last time I adjusted the pump it was spot on with the built in gauge. In any event, I was still pulling garbage at this point so I threw my portafilter gauge on and sure enough, the pressure was way low. So I'm shooting for 145 psi static on the gauge. My question is, within about 3 seconds of hitting the continuous button I am up to about 145 psi but if I let it run at that point, it continues to climb quite slowly all the way up to maybe 180 psi in about 30
          seconds. I'm wondering if this is normal or if this is a sign that my pump is on the way out. If it is normal, do I set the pressure so it stops climbing at 145 after 30 seconds or based on where it spins up to in the initial 3 seconds? Honestly can't remember if it did this when I did my inital pressure test several months ago... Something tells me it didn't and I'm going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon.
          >







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        • dmankin
          Several of us have had great success using: JC Beverage Company, LLC 10206 County Highway 14 Hitterdal, MN 56552 1-888-892-4196 fax-1-218-962-3240
          Message 4 of 4 , Jul 27, 2009
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            Several of us have had great success using:

            JC Beverage Company, LLC
            10206 County Highway 14
            Hitterdal, MN 56552
            1-888-892-4196 fax-1-218-962-3240
            http://www.jcbeverage.com/index.html

            They rebuild fast and well, IMHO. About $45 including return shipping (maybe a years ago).

            If you can't remove the fittings from the pump (I couldn't get mine off), be sure to include a note instructing them to hang on too and return your fittings. The rebuilt pump will be essentially completely new, except the outer housing, I believe.

            Good luck - and have a great vacation.

            David
            +++++++++++++++



            --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, Tim Fischer <fischertim@...> wrote:
            >
            > Still had them bookmarked from when I did the initial tear-down of the machine. I'm hoping it will limp by for another week or so until I leave town for vacation. Seems the perfect time to send the pump off and hopefully the rebuild will address the issue.
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            > From: Jake Wilson <sh8knj8k@...>
            > To: BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:53:11 PM
            > Subject: [BUG] Re: setting the pump pressure
            >
            >
            > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@ yahoogroups. com, "fischertim@ ..." <fischertim@ ...> wrote:
            >
            > Something tells me it didn't and I'm going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon.
            > >
            >
            > ~~~It's real easy to spend someone else's money but the good news is, if you don't want to rebuild the pump yourself, you'll probably get out for under $60 with J&E Beverage doing the work (including their shipping). I have about $70 into the procon pump rebuild they did for me including my shipping costs to them
            >
            > Jake
            > Reddick Fla.
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            > >
            > > Howdy,
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            > > Been happily pulling 6 to 8 doubles a day with my ES-1 for several months. Yesterday something happened with the pump. The pitch changed when pulling a shot, hard to put into words but there was a distinct difference not only in the pitch of the pump but also in the snap or lack thereof of the 3-way. I did some monkeying around with some minor pressure adjustments of the pump based on what the built-in guage was telling me. I know, the gauges aren't supposed to be overly accurate but last time I adjusted the pump it was spot on with the built in gauge. In any event, I was still pulling garbage at this point so I threw my portafilter gauge on and sure enough, the pressure was way low. So I'm shooting for 145 psi static on the gauge. My question is, within about 3 seconds of hitting the continuous button I am up to about 145 psi but if I let it run at that point, it continues to climb quite slowly all the way up to maybe 180 psi in about 30
            > seconds. I'm wondering if this is normal or if this is a sign that my pump is on the way out. If it is normal, do I set the pressure so it stops climbing at 145 after 30 seconds or based on where it spins up to in the initial 3 seconds? Honestly can't remember if it did this when I did my inital pressure test several months ago... Something tells me it didn't and I'm going to be in need of a pump rebuild sooooon.
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