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  • Robert Harmon
    Simple things separate the various grinders; burr size, sturdiness of build, stamped vs. machined burr carriers, motor ratings, etc. These don t necessarily
    Message 1 of 20 , Feb 8, 2009
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      Simple things separate the various grinders; burr size, sturdiness of
      build, stamped vs. machined burr carriers, motor ratings, etc. These
      don't necessarily have an effect on grind quality or anything else,
      but it's very satisfying to feel the heft of the MD-50 when you move
      it about.

      Tex

      --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "dmankin" <david.mankin@...> wrote:
      >
      > Jake,
      >
      > IMHO, your MD-50 is the holy grail of grinders. I've had a chance to
      > see Tex's up close, and I'd trade my Cunill up for one of them any
      > day. My Cunill works terrifically - but I feel the Rancilio is a
      > finer piece of machinery.
      >
      > David
      > +++++++++++++++++++++
      >
      >
      > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
      > >
      > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon" <Texas_Coffee@>
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > S.O.B.! Someone got that grinder for $100.99 - an obscenely low
      price.
      > > >
      > > > Tex
      > >
      > >
      > > > >
      > > > > http://snipurl.com/bimkd
      > > > >
      > > > > I beliedve this is manufactured by Cunill - a very reputable
      Spanish
      > > > > grinder manufacturer - I use a Cunill at home, and it's works
      > > > beautifully.
      > > > >
      > > > > David
      > > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ~~~Out of curiosity, how does this grinder (the one that just sold on
      > > ebay) compare to my Ranchilio MD-50 Tex, as good, better, or?
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Jake
      > > Reddick Fla.
      > >
      >
    • Robert Harmon
      Yeah Jake, I m also looking at the garbage disposal fitting for the dish washer. I might piggyback onto that instead of opting for the new pipes. Thanks for
      Message 2 of 20 , Feb 8, 2009
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        Yeah Jake, I'm also looking at the garbage disposal fitting for the
        dish washer. I might piggyback onto that instead of opting for the new
        pipes. Thanks for pointing it out.

        Tex

        --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@...> wrote:
        >
        > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
        > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > >
        > > > I had to use an adaptor: http://tinyurl.com/d6mdff to connect the
        > > > waste water to the drain.
        > > >
        > > > Enjoy,
        > > > Tex
        > > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > ~~~Thanks for putting that bit up there about the waste water
        > > connection. I was wondering how I would connect mine, then after
        > > looking at that photo in the link, it all came together=:-)
        > >
        > >
        > > BTW, are you using re-inforced hose for the waste water or just
        > > regular clear flexible hose?
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Jake
        > > Reddick Fla.
        > >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ~~~On 2nd thought, I might be able to get away wil less work
        > connecting the drain. After just looking at my under sink situation
        > (after I sent this reply), I see where the dishwasher hose connects
        > to a rubber hose that drains into the disposal unit. I'm thinking it
        > might be easier to connect there. Someone (the original plumber?)
        > used a copper pipe as a go between. I'm thinking a Y fitting would
        > be the way to go maybe, replacing the shoirt straight copper piece
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Jake
        > Reddick Fla.
        >
      • Jake Wilson
        ... new ... ~~~~Let me know what you come up with if you use the dishwasher drain, and I ll ride your coat tails=:-) I was just looking at it again. I ll bet
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          --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
          <Texas_Coffee@...> wrote:
          >
          > Yeah Jake, I'm also looking at the garbage disposal fitting for the
          > dish washer. I might piggyback onto that instead of opting for the
          new
          > pipes. Thanks for pointing it out.
          >
          > Tex
          >





          ~~~~Let me know what you come up with if you use the dishwasher
          drain, and I'll ride your coat tails=:-) I was just looking at it
          again. I'll bet there's an off the shelf Y piece that will work,
          making the dishwater drain hook up fairly painless. Both sides that
          connect top the short copper piece use radiator type hose clamps so
          unscrewing both on mine and that short piece is in your hands, then a
          trip to a well stocked plumbing supply (just about any home store
          maybe?) should get the right Y fitting


          I think the only danger of routing into the disposal would be if the
          disposal was plugged up and the dishwasher started emptying. I've
          seen my kitchen sink back up a time or two when the dishwasher was
          draining, but the height of the espresso drain should preclude the DW
          from feeding into it




          Jake
          Reddick Fla.






          > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
          > >
          > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
          > > wrote:
          > > >
          > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
          > > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > >
          > > > > I had to use an adaptor: http://tinyurl.com/d6mdff to connect
          the
          > > > > waste water to the drain.
          > > > >
          > > > > Enjoy,
          > > > > Tex
          > > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > ~~~Thanks for putting that bit up there about the waste water
          > > > connection. I was wondering how I would connect mine, then
          after
          > > > looking at that photo in the link, it all came together=:-)
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > BTW, are you using re-inforced hose for the waste water or just
          > > > regular clear flexible hose?
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > Jake
          > > > Reddick Fla.
          > > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > ~~~On 2nd thought, I might be able to get away wil less work
          > > connecting the drain. After just looking at my under sink
          situation
          > > (after I sent this reply), I see where the dishwasher hose
          connects
          > > to a rubber hose that drains into the disposal unit. I'm
          thinking it
          > > might be easier to connect there. Someone (the original
          plumber?)
          > > used a copper pipe as a go between. I'm thinking a Y fitting
          would
          > > be the way to go maybe, replacing the shoirt straight copper piece
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > Jake
          > > Reddick Fla.
          > >
          >
        • Jake Wilson
          ... to ... ~~~~David, I have no quips with my MD-50. I ve been using it daily since last April and once set, it grinds wonderfully. the only time I change
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            --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "dmankin" <david.mankin@...>
            wrote:
            >
            > Jake,
            >
            > IMHO, your MD-50 is the holy grail of grinders. I've had a chance
            to
            > see Tex's up close, and I'd trade my Cunill up for one of them any
            > day. My Cunill works terrifically - but I feel the Rancilio is a
            > finer piece of machinery.
            >
            > David
            > +++++++++++++++++++++
            >





            ~~~~David, I have no quips with my MD-50. I've been using it daily
            since last April and once set, it grinds wonderfully. the only time
            I change the setting is when I clean it and set it back up again
            (every 2 weeks)


            sometimes I have to work at hitting the ritght setting when re-
            setting it up (dialing it in) after cleaning but more often than not,
            the setting I first choose and I'm pretty much good to go


            The only thing I could find fault with this grinder is, and I'm not
            complaining, but compared to the Mazzers, the MD-50 isn't as pretty
            in an artsy sort of way. it's all business though and that's what I
            have it sitting on my countertop for




            Jake
            Reddick Fla.





            >
            > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
            > >
            > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
            <Texas_Coffee@>
            > > wrote:
            > > >
            > > > S.O.B.! Someone got that grinder for $100.99 - an obscenely low
            price.
            > > >
            > > > Tex
            > >
            > >
            > > > >
            > > > > http://snipurl.com/bimkd
            > > > >
            > > > > I beliedve this is manufactured by Cunill - a very reputable
            Spanish
            > > > > grinder manufacturer - I use a Cunill at home, and it's works
            > > > beautifully.
            > > > >
            > > > > David
            > > > >
            > > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > ~~~Out of curiosity, how does this grinder (the one that just
            sold on
            > > ebay) compare to my Ranchilio MD-50 Tex, as good, better, or?
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Jake
            > > Reddick Fla.
            > >
            >
          • Robert Harmon
            I ve a check valve I can use to prevent a backup. Tex
            Message 5 of 20 , Feb 8, 2009
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              I've a check valve I can use to prevent a backup.

              Tex

              --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@...> wrote:
              >
              > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
              > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Yeah Jake, I'm also looking at the garbage disposal fitting for the
              > > dish washer. I might piggyback onto that instead of opting for the
              > new
              > > pipes. Thanks for pointing it out.
              > >
              > > Tex
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ~~~~Let me know what you come up with if you use the dishwasher
              > drain, and I'll ride your coat tails=:-) I was just looking at it
              > again. I'll bet there's an off the shelf Y piece that will work,
              > making the dishwater drain hook up fairly painless. Both sides that
              > connect top the short copper piece use radiator type hose clamps so
              > unscrewing both on mine and that short piece is in your hands, then a
              > trip to a well stocked plumbing supply (just about any home store
              > maybe?) should get the right Y fitting
              >
              >
              > I think the only danger of routing into the disposal would be if the
              > disposal was plugged up and the dishwasher started emptying. I've
              > seen my kitchen sink back up a time or two when the dishwasher was
              > draining, but the height of the espresso drain should preclude the DW
              > from feeding into it
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > Jake
              > Reddick Fla.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
              > > > wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
              > > > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > >
              > > > > > I had to use an adaptor: http://tinyurl.com/d6mdff to connect
              > the
              > > > > > waste water to the drain.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Enjoy,
              > > > > > Tex
              > > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > ~~~Thanks for putting that bit up there about the waste water
              > > > > connection. I was wondering how I would connect mine, then
              > after
              > > > > looking at that photo in the link, it all came together=:-)
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > BTW, are you using re-inforced hose for the waste water or just
              > > > > regular clear flexible hose?
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > Jake
              > > > > Reddick Fla.
              > > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > ~~~On 2nd thought, I might be able to get away wil less work
              > > > connecting the drain. After just looking at my under sink
              > situation
              > > > (after I sent this reply), I see where the dishwasher hose
              > connects
              > > > to a rubber hose that drains into the disposal unit. I'm
              > thinking it
              > > > might be easier to connect there. Someone (the original
              > plumber?)
              > > > used a copper pipe as a go between. I'm thinking a Y fitting
              > would
              > > > be the way to go maybe, replacing the shoirt straight copper piece
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > Jake
              > > > Reddick Fla.
              > > >
              > >
              >
            • Robert White
              Thanks for the info. I will just order a new anti-siphon valve and soak the pressure relief valve. Bob ... [Non-text portions of this message have been
              Message 6 of 20 , Feb 9, 2009
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                Thanks for the info. I will just order a new anti-siphon valve and
                soak the pressure relief valve.

                Bob

                On Feb 8, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Robert Harmon wrote:

                > I opted for the 3/8" tubing simply because it'll let the boiler fill
                > faster so the pump runs less.
                >
                > If the anti-siphon valve is gunked up then they're cheap enough to
                > replace.
                >
                > The pressure relief valve (has a wire seal on it) cane be soaked in an
                > acid bath, but don't disassemble it.
                >
                > Tex


                [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              • Jake Wilson
                ... ~~~And which drain line would it go into, the espresso drain line? Jake Reddick Fla. ... the ... the ... it ... that ... so ... then a ... the ... I ve ...
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                  --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                  <Texas_Coffee@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I've a check valve I can use to prevent a backup.
                  >
                  > Tex
                  >



                  ~~~And which drain line would it go into, the espresso drain line?



                  Jake
                  Reddick Fla.




                  > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                  > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > Yeah Jake, I'm also looking at the garbage disposal fitting for
                  the
                  > > > dish washer. I might piggyback onto that instead of opting for
                  the
                  > > new
                  > > > pipes. Thanks for pointing it out.
                  > > >
                  > > > Tex
                  > > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > ~~~~Let me know what you come up with if you use the dishwasher
                  > > drain, and I'll ride your coat tails=:-) I was just looking at
                  it
                  > > again. I'll bet there's an off the shelf Y piece that will work,
                  > > making the dishwater drain hook up fairly painless. Both sides
                  that
                  > > connect top the short copper piece use radiator type hose clamps
                  so
                  > > unscrewing both on mine and that short piece is in your hands,
                  then a
                  > > trip to a well stocked plumbing supply (just about any home store
                  > > maybe?) should get the right Y fitting
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > I think the only danger of routing into the disposal would be if
                  the
                  > > disposal was plugged up and the dishwasher started emptying.
                  I've
                  > > seen my kitchen sink back up a time or two when the dishwasher
                  was
                  > > draining, but the height of the espresso drain should preclude
                  the DW
                  > > from feeding into it
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Jake
                  > > Reddick Fla.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
                  wrote:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
                  > > > > wrote:
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                  > > > > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > >
                  > > > > > > I had to use an adaptor: http://tinyurl.com/d6mdff to
                  connect
                  > > the
                  > > > > > > waste water to the drain.
                  > > > > > >
                  > > > > > > Enjoy,
                  > > > > > > Tex
                  > > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > ~~~Thanks for putting that bit up there about the waste
                  water
                  > > > > > connection. I was wondering how I would connect mine, then
                  > > after
                  > > > > > looking at that photo in the link, it all came together=:-)
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > BTW, are you using re-inforced hose for the waste water or
                  just
                  > > > > > regular clear flexible hose?
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > Jake
                  > > > > > Reddick Fla.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > > ~~~On 2nd thought, I might be able to get away wil less work
                  > > > > connecting the drain. After just looking at my under sink
                  > > situation
                  > > > > (after I sent this reply), I see where the dishwasher hose
                  > > connects
                  > > > > to a rubber hose that drains into the disposal unit. I'm
                  > > thinking it
                  > > > > might be easier to connect there. Someone (the original
                  > > plumber?)
                  > > > > used a copper pipe as a go between. I'm thinking a Y fitting
                  > > would
                  > > > > be the way to go maybe, replacing the shoirt straight copper
                  piece
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Jake
                  > > > > Reddick Fla.
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                • Robert Harmon
                  Yeah, it ll need to be a very light spring in the valve; one that ll stay open for the zero-pressure waste water from the Bunn, but will close if back flow is
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                    Yeah, it'll need to be a very light spring in the valve; one that'll
                    stay open for the zero-pressure waste water from the Bunn, but will
                    close if back flow is sensed from the other direction.

                    Tex

                    --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                    > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                    > >
                    > > I've a check valve I can use to prevent a backup.
                    > >
                    > > Tex
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > ~~~And which drain line would it go into, the espresso drain line?
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Jake
                    > Reddick Fla.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                    > > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                    > > > >
                    > > > > Yeah Jake, I'm also looking at the garbage disposal fitting for
                    > the
                    > > > > dish washer. I might piggyback onto that instead of opting for
                    > the
                    > > > new
                    > > > > pipes. Thanks for pointing it out.
                    > > > >
                    > > > > Tex
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > ~~~~Let me know what you come up with if you use the dishwasher
                    > > > drain, and I'll ride your coat tails=:-) I was just looking at
                    > it
                    > > > again. I'll bet there's an off the shelf Y piece that will work,
                    > > > making the dishwater drain hook up fairly painless. Both sides
                    > that
                    > > > connect top the short copper piece use radiator type hose clamps
                    > so
                    > > > unscrewing both on mine and that short piece is in your hands,
                    > then a
                    > > > trip to a well stocked plumbing supply (just about any home store
                    > > > maybe?) should get the right Y fitting
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > I think the only danger of routing into the disposal would be if
                    > the
                    > > > disposal was plugged up and the dishwasher started emptying.
                    > I've
                    > > > seen my kitchen sink back up a time or two when the dishwasher
                    > was
                    > > > draining, but the height of the espresso drain should preclude
                    > the DW
                    > > > from feeding into it
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > Jake
                    > > > Reddick Fla.
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > >
                    > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
                    > wrote:
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
                    > > > > > wrote:
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                    > > > > > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > > >
                    > > > > > > > I had to use an adaptor: http://tinyurl.com/d6mdff to
                    > connect
                    > > > the
                    > > > > > > > waste water to the drain.
                    > > > > > > >
                    > > > > > > > Enjoy,
                    > > > > > > > Tex
                    > > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > > ~~~Thanks for putting that bit up there about the waste
                    > water
                    > > > > > > connection. I was wondering how I would connect mine, then
                    > > > after
                    > > > > > > looking at that photo in the link, it all came together=:-)
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > > BTW, are you using re-inforced hose for the waste water or
                    > just
                    > > > > > > regular clear flexible hose?
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > > > Jake
                    > > > > > > Reddick Fla.
                    > > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > ~~~On 2nd thought, I might be able to get away wil less work
                    > > > > > connecting the drain. After just looking at my under sink
                    > > > situation
                    > > > > > (after I sent this reply), I see where the dishwasher hose
                    > > > connects
                    > > > > > to a rubber hose that drains into the disposal unit. I'm
                    > > > thinking it
                    > > > > > might be easier to connect there. Someone (the original
                    > > > plumber?)
                    > > > > > used a copper pipe as a go between. I'm thinking a Y fitting
                    > > > would
                    > > > > > be the way to go maybe, replacing the shoirt straight copper
                    > piece
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > >
                    > > > > > Jake
                    > > > > > Reddick Fla.
                    > > > > >
                    > > > >
                    > > >
                    > >
                    >
                  • Jake Wilson
                    ... ~~~~Okay, that makes sense to me. In regards to the sink backing up from the dishwasher draining, I have an idea that if one were to fit the espresso
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                      --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                      <Texas_Coffee@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Yeah, it'll need to be a very light spring in the valve; one that'll
                      > stay open for the zero-pressure waste water from the Bunn, but will
                      > close if back flow is sensed from the other direction.
                      >
                      > Tex
                      >




                      ~~~~Okay, that makes sense to me. In regards to the sink backing up
                      from the dishwasher draining, I have an idea that if one were to fit
                      the espresso drain line into that connection which I think is the way
                      to go, I doubt when and if the disposal backed up that this overflow
                      would want to seek upwards towards the espresso machine's drian pan,
                      simply beecause the sink would be at a lower height and would fill
                      first (I would imagine). Yet the check valve has merit as a fail safe



                      Jake
                      Reddick Fla.





                      > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                      > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > I've a check valve I can use to prevent a backup.
                      > > >
                      > > > Tex
                      > > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > ~~~And which drain line would it go into, the espresso drain line?
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Jake
                      > > Reddick Fla.
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson" <sh8knj8k@>
                      wrote:
                      > > > >
                      > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                      > > > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Yeah Jake, I'm also looking at the garbage disposal fitting
                      for
                      > > the
                      > > > > > dish washer. I might piggyback onto that instead of opting
                      for
                      > > the
                      > > > > new
                      > > > > > pipes. Thanks for pointing it out.
                      > > > > >
                      > > > > > Tex
                      > > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > ~~~~Let me know what you come up with if you use the
                      dishwasher
                      > > > > drain, and I'll ride your coat tails=:-) I was just looking
                      at
                      > > it
                      > > > > again. I'll bet there's an off the shelf Y piece that will
                      work,
                      > > > > making the dishwater drain hook up fairly painless. Both
                      sides
                      > > that
                      > > > > connect top the short copper piece use radiator type hose
                      clamps
                      > > so
                      > > > > unscrewing both on mine and that short piece is in your
                      hands,
                      > > then a
                      > > > > trip to a well stocked plumbing supply (just about any home
                      store
                      > > > > maybe?) should get the right Y fitting
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > I think the only danger of routing into the disposal would be
                      if
                      > > the
                      > > > > disposal was plugged up and the dishwasher started emptying.
                      > > I've
                      > > > > seen my kitchen sink back up a time or two when the
                      dishwasher
                      > > was
                      > > > > draining, but the height of the espresso drain should
                      preclude
                      > > the DW
                      > > > > from feeding into it
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Jake
                      > > > > Reddick Fla.
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson"
                      <sh8knj8k@>
                      > > wrote:
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Jake Wilson"
                      <sh8knj8k@>
                      > > > > > > wrote:
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > > --- In BUG-is-Bunn@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Harmon"
                      > > > > > > > <Texas_Coffee@> wrote:
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > > > I had to use an adaptor: http://tinyurl.com/d6mdff to
                      > > connect
                      > > > > the
                      > > > > > > > > waste water to the drain.
                      > > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > > > Enjoy,
                      > > > > > > > > Tex
                      > > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > > ~~~Thanks for putting that bit up there about the waste
                      > > water
                      > > > > > > > connection. I was wondering how I would connect mine,
                      then
                      > > > > after
                      > > > > > > > looking at that photo in the link, it all came
                      together=:-)
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > > BTW, are you using re-inforced hose for the waste water
                      or
                      > > just
                      > > > > > > > regular clear flexible hose?
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > > Jake
                      > > > > > > > Reddick Fla.
                      > > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > ~~~On 2nd thought, I might be able to get away wil less
                      work
                      > > > > > > connecting the drain. After just looking at my under
                      sink
                      > > > > situation
                      > > > > > > (after I sent this reply), I see where the dishwasher
                      hose
                      > > > > connects
                      > > > > > > to a rubber hose that drains into the disposal unit. I'm
                      > > > > thinking it
                      > > > > > > might be easier to connect there. Someone (the original
                      > > > > plumber?)
                      > > > > > > used a copper pipe as a go between. I'm thinking a Y
                      fitting
                      > > > > would
                      > > > > > > be the way to go maybe, replacing the shoirt straight
                      copper
                      > > piece
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > > > Jake
                      > > > > > > Reddick Fla.
                      > > > > > >
                      > > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > >
                      > >
                      >
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